Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 256. (Read 140819 times)

Well its finally time for redemption I guess, I was one of the worst aside from all those people that quit halfway so Im in next season ! The buy in is totally reasonable and Im pretty sure the previous pool wont have any issue with it. Btc is tanking anyway so yeah better to use it on something rather than having it stays on wallet lol


Earlier is better isnt it. It gets kinda boring when you have no weekend football to watch so yeah glad that they started this early

I am in for the next season no matter what the buy in gets to be. Thanks for the heads up on the early season start. I knew that it will probably start early due to WC but still did not expect it to start as early as this.

Catch you all in new season. This time my goal is to win one yellow cap. Never got it in PL and this will be my 4th season.

I will also in for this competition and wait for update thanks.

I usually don't start taking in the money until a week or so before the league starts because the price can fluctuate so much in the space of a month or so. Somebody could end up paying nearly double more or likely less the way things are going. Depending on which way the price goes it can be unfair to those who pay either early or late, or become too high of a fee to play, so that's why I like to state roughly what the fee is likely to be in fiat then try to make it a nice round number in btc nearer the time and collect the money in one go nearer the time so it's fairer to everyone. The fee in the past has been between £25-40 in GBP fiat so I'd like to make it something like 0.002 or 0.0025 which would be fine as it stands but maybe not if the price keeps tanking.

0.0015 btc is currently 31.85 USD or 25.75 GBP
0.002 btc is currently 42.48 USD or 34.36 GBP
0.0025 btc is currently 53.13 USD or 42.98 GBP
0.003 btc is currently 63.63 USD or 51.46 GBP

I'd be fine with £50 but I don't want to price people out, but at the same time with a free $50 weekly bet up for grabs it's still a very good deal especially for an entire seasons worth of entertainment that is not going to have you chasing your losses  . 0.0025 is probably what I'd aim for right now.

Once I get the confirmation from Sportsbet on their sponsorship I'll start the sign-up thread asap.

Another thing,depending on the cost of the pool maybe the pool participants will love the option to pay in advance the Bitcoin fees as the price of Bitcoin is a lot cheaper compared to last year.Since it is irrelevant to us the price in USD I think it would be a good idea to start accepting participants money in Bitcoin starting from now,we would pay less in dollars but the same amount in Bitcoin for example if the fee is 30 USD we can pay 0.0015 Bitcoin and if it is 40 USD we can pay 0.002 Bitcoin.Of course the option to pay near the start of the pool to be available for those who want to pay then.

new season starts on August 5th
it is due to World Cup in November that season starts much earlier than previous seasons

Fulham, Nottingham and Bournmouth are new members, Crystal Palace vs Arsenal is first match
will be interesting to see who will be better, with a long mid-season pause due to World Cup

It's always both parties being greedy. The player can easily shut down his agent if he's the catalyst trying to encourage a transfer and they don't want it but they usually do want to milk as much money out of their situation. The player can quite easily say I'm fine where I am and that would be the end of it. Their existing club will still up their wages when it comes to re-sign if they're desperate to keep them but that often won't compete with what another club is offering them so if they leave just for a bit of extra cash then it's purely financially motivated. There's really no loyalty left if football these days. Most players just go wherever they can get the most cash. Can I blame them? Not really, but for some you would think there's more loyalty to a club and fanbase that gave them everything as opposed to swanning off elsewhere just for an extra couple of million which they probably don't even need.


They have, but Spain are seemingly pretty strict about tax issues, though you can usually always buy your way out of any serious repercussions or prison time etc. It's probably why they both left Spain. There's always going to be loopholes left to exploit and players like them two are going to have the best lawyers and accountants so they will always find a way to abuse both systems.


You still get some smaller teams making it into the CL spots though, but it is obviously very difficulty given the number of big clubs and it's always going to be the same big 4 or 5 thereabouts. The Super League was a little different though. It was completely elitist and purely greedy from the start. It was just the big clubs wanting to make a league exclusively for them and nobody else so they can take all the money and split it up by themselves whilst making their own rules.


I use the Spanish Dazn but it doesn't have English commentary. The Canadian one does and I used that before but I kept running into proxy issues so I went with the Spanish one once my subscription ran out. It might be ok now though or may just depend on the proxy you use. Try find someone in Canada and see if you can get them to create you an account. You can't sign up for it with proxy but once the account is created it's using a proxy is usually fine. You can pay pay as you go monthly and they even used to do one month free trial so you can give it a go and if it doesn't work just cancel it after a month. I have both the German and Spanish Dazns and they're both well worth the money. I split them with a friend as well as two people can watch at once. Between them both I have all the boxing, all UFC fights and pretty much all the biggest football leagues inn Europe.

^ Can't believe I missed this thread but yeah, game's really kind of gone, in many ways. Still entertaining for the most, but I personally lost my only local tie a decade ago when my club vanished.

A new club sprung up 2 years ago when a group of business people bought one club not even from my state and renamed it with my old club's name.

Nothing local about it though, except later on when they recruited locals and not that I'm partisan or anything (or hell maybe I am) but there was some crazy nostalgia thing about guys from your patch of the woods mixing it up with continental superstars on a stage they would never have seen if they didn't kick a ball better than regular joes.

Anyway, popped in here to ask if anyone knows any new streaming deals for EPL with English commentary coming to Europe?

Dazn came here in December, but no football.
Amazon (with forced UK settings + VPN) had some games for a while, but seems like it was a trial, not sure next season.
FOX and ESPN have a local stream but commentary NOT in English, not all games, and you've to pay out of your nose for everything.

IPTV crap's... tried and tested and never satisfactory.

Yeah, I'm hoping it's the agent doing the talking rather than the player. It's almost like we get sent mixed signals because one week Salah is saying on an interview that it's not about the money, and he wants to retire at Liverpool. Then, another week we get the news that it's entirely about money, and it doesn't look like it's going to get done, and he would consider joining other rivals in the UK.

It's mad how things can change. I'm assuming that the agent wants to turn the fans against the board, but if the quoted figures are correct (in the £400k region) I actually think the fans will more likely want a replacement. That sounds weird saying, because I'm a massive fan of Salah, but he's not my favourite player, and he can sometimes be a little bit frustrating despite his quality. Although, the same could be said for Mane, and probably any player at some point in their career I suppose.


Yeah, I'd have to agree. To echo the common saying "The games gone" which is usually used in a sarcastic way, but I genuinely believe we lost it a while ago. As soon as certain organisations were allowed to buy clubs, and basically turn them into cash cows. Financial fair play has been a joke, and City proved that even when taken to court they could get away with it.

I do believe Ronaldo, and Messi have been investigated for tax issues, so what's to say that these players wouldn't take deal sweeteners that you allude to behind the scenes, I mean it's probably already happening to some extent.

I know there was a big uproar about the super league, but I genuinely believe we're already in one. Teams like City will never be challenged by the likes of Everton, unless Everton get bought out by a super rich owner. There's no making your way up the ladder any more, and I do think the English Premier League has been corrupted by international cash cows, and I think it goes without saying I'm not even being patriotic when I say that.

The only difference with the Super League was there was hard rules making sure successful clubs stay successful. However, at the moment we don't have those hard rules, but we technically have things which will prevent anyone, but the main 6 challenging. The year that Leicester won the league was absolutely brilliant, because it proved what football was all about. However, as time goes on those sort of surprise wins are going to be even more rare than they were back then. 

I think both Mbappe and PSG made a mistake here. Mbappe will not be happy playing "weak" French league without top results in CL and no other respectable player will come to a club where player is bigger then all the other players. This deal only makes sense if they just signed it so PSG can sell him in near future instead of loosing him for free.

It is probably just the case of money as you say it but there are some players that wanted to leave their mark across all major leagues. Don't think it is a case here and I am sure they would tell that as a reason if it were true.

agree, usually, it is about money, but not always, or we can put it wasn't always all about money
players played for teams they want, and not just for the money, Mbappe is a real example that "pay me more, and I will come" is now more often than not in football

looking at competition, I would like to see Liverpool staying pretty much the same, since they are the only team that can compete with City, if they fall-apart, season could be decided before new year

It usually is always about the money. Look at Mbappe. Looks like he was dead set on a move away, then voila, he's now very happy to stay once PSG have promised him a quarter of a billion over the next three years and looks like he's practically going to be a player-manager.


Something needs to be done about the finances but it'd just be a hollow gesture as I think it's already too late. The big clubs are already big and will stay that way and the rest will just battle it out for even a whiff of a dream of becoming a bigger one and actually challenging for something. I'm sure they will end up capping wages and clamping down on the fair play rules but that leads to 2 other main problems. They'll either just go to some other far off league that doesn't have such wage restrictions or clubs will just end up sweetening the deal behind the scenes ie, we'll pay you the max capped wage, but we'll also pay your mortgage/buy you a mansion and here's a free Lambo and a Rolex etc. Clubs could either keep this all off the books in the name of some off-shore company or just have it in their name and just let the players 'use/lease' the houses and cars from them for free. I'm sure stuff like this already goes on anyway, especially with the Neymars and Ronaldos of the world. There's probably no other way to get them without bribing them with some other luxuries, otherwise why go to them when there's plenty of other choices? There's also no loyalty with players these days either. Why would Salah or Mane even want to leave Liverpool, the club that arguably made them who they are today? I imagine it's purely financial because there's not many clubs you can go to where they're going to win more stuff than they do with Liverpool so it's almost certainly about just grabbing more cash as opposed to wanting more silverware. If Liverpool upped their wages there'd be no talk of wanting to leave I'm sure of it.

I don't think that the reason why Mane's wage is low is only related to Liverpool's wage structure. Mane is earning nearly the half of the money that players like Salah and Firmino are earning now. If I were in Mane's place, I wouldn't also like to continue at Liverpool. I think that Liverpool would have paid the money Mane really deserved after he showed a this much high level performance for years.

I'm all for a strict wage structure, but if has to adjust with the times. Our maximum wage around 200k per week, with incentives has been the way for years now. We've since come into a lot of success, which should allow us to compete on the wage structure even more. However, we haven't adjusted, and ultimately we'll pay the price. The fans aren't up in arms about it yet, but if we lose Mane, Salah, and then the following year someone like VVD, it'll one be too late, but two FSG will lose the fans.

Honestly, after the defeat against Real Madrid in the final, I was half expecting the announcement of Salah's resigning as a way to cushion the blow. That would have been the smart thing to do. However, right now we're at risk of losing two of our best players, and if they don't resign this season, I doubt teams will be willing to pay a big fee for them when they can just wait for both to run down their contracts. Mane will either go for 30-40m or go on a free. Salah, will likely go on a free rather than a fee. So, Liverpool are risking it all to keep this wage structure which hasn't been updated to keep up with the times.

I'm sickened by the wage structure that football demands, Mbappe on around 2 million a week is just ridiculous, but to remain competitive you have to keep up with the times, and it's not like we haven't got the revenue coming in to not do it.

within Evertonian community there is a "we showed them a way", since Everton overturned Palace in similar manner few days before that, to avoid relegation, and City saw how to do that and reflected in last round

add to that, that Ancelotti praised Everton fans after the final, since he was our manager before, and it seemed that our fans are happier at the moment, and we finished shitty season at 16th place
Football all around

I would say that for any player who is dissatisfied with the current situation, the club should let him go. Judging by the newspaper, Mane is not the only one in Liverpool who feels underpaid. I guess it can be a big challenge for Klopp to maintain high quality and competitive team. very easily the same can happen as with Dortmund after some successful years.

though most big teams will undergo major roster changes, so it is not to be expected that two teams will have a great dominance. Even City, where some important players announced a possible departure.

I wouldn't say there was anything strange in City scoring 3 goals against Aston Villa, which, apart from being a much weaker team, did not have a special competitive motive in this match.

The fans are happy but not as happy as they would be if Liverpool had won neither of these trophies and in turn to have won either the Premier League or the Champions League title.Strange season and very strange last game where City was down 2 goals and they managed to recover.

Mane is a great player and if he will go away it will be a gap in Liverpool team and maybe it will impact the team performance overall and he is a goal scorer which will be a minus for the team.If he goes away Liverpool needs as soon as possible to find a good replacement otherwise it will be difficult for them to fight for the title/s in 2022/2023 season.

They probably are real, I saw several versions over the years and yes, they're actually all severely underpaid -- if you want to compare against the rest of the teams and what they're paying.

Liverpool do have a wage structure that has been legendarily rigid -- which is why we've always lost out when it comes to satisfying guys like Sterling but I still don't think Mane/Salah are deadlocked with the club based on salary alone. They will want to get paid more -- that's professional, we all would ask to be paid more if we performed well at our jobs.

Definitely strange season. If we'd had maybe ended the season with FA and league cup wins instead we'd be a bit happier. I don't know, terrible price to pay for going all the way. Football huh.

if what I saw on Twitter are real wages for Liverpool players, Mane is extremely underpaid, and that could be a reason to go
his contract is from 2018, and he is somewhere below position 10, when talking about weekly salaries, almost to have whole team in front of him

it is a strange moment in Liverpool right now, great season, two trophies, CL final, point to PL title, and somehow nobody is happy about it, since last two matches were downers in PL and CL

Yeah. Somehow you get these inklings that you are about to say goodbye. I definitely felt that with Coutinho, but have to admit I actually don't have the same strong confidence of Mane/Salah leaving (just yet).

One more good season. I know they feel they have unfinished business despite winning everything there is to win, the treble/quadruple effort, if done AGAIN this season would put them into the highest bracket and demand whatever they want.

I know everyone says 30 is their past peak but really these guys will play a lot longer, possibly even improve (maybe never speed but definitely smarter and sharper).

Same here too, realistic salaries, yes sir. We've never bent backward to pay demands, and we never should. (I doubt it's TOO much a pay issue though).