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Quote from: Harkorede on January 18, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

Brighton were the better side for me overall, and the point was deserved. Tuchel is got some real work to do.

Brighton is a serious club and they always defend well. I expected this to be though for Chelsea but still I picked 2:1 win for them.

On another note, will Burnley ever play a match in Premier League or are they waiting for relegation? If I am counting ok they now have 6 postponements. Really getting ridiculous in some cases. Imagine a situation where Bunley brings a couple of high profile players during this transfer window and then wins all those postponed games. Totally irregular, but not gonna happen.

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regarding tonight matches, Burnley is postponed
so, Chelsea only, and they should win after all (would be interesting to see do we have 95+% consensus in a pool for this, because the odds are @1.75)

Would have gone against them if against a top team, as I did with City, but this is Brighton. A good team, and capable of taking points off Chelsea, but they're probably not good enough to get a clean sheet -- despite Chelsea's issues, I think Lukaku back on the starting lineup puts pressure off the other attackers to create.

Match starting, I won't mind losing this prediction to see a high-scoring draw. Just in that kind of mood.

I tried to go 0-1 for Chelsea as a win but then I thought that since some games before Brighton was capable of scoring against Chelsea and that game ended 1-1 I changed my prediction to 1-2 win for Chelsea.I doubt Brighton will have another positive result against Chelsea this time and Chelsea I think is already winning and showing a whole lot more serious game play than when they draw at home against Brighton in a surprise result from a betting perspective.Event if it ends like this 0-1 I am happy with a close result.

I had 0-2 for Chelsea, but 1-2 or 0-2 neither of it mattered in the end. Chelsea are gradually becoming the opposite of the team they were last year, I felt they'd pose a huge threat to the league title at least until the final weeks, but they're losing their chances at an incredible pace.

Brighton were the better side for me overall, and the point was deserved. Tuchel is got some real work to do.

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 18, 2022, 02:59:03 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on January 18, 2022, 09:08:56 AM

regarding tonight matches, Burnley is postponed
so, Chelsea only, and they should win after all (would be interesting to see do we have 95+% consensus in a pool for this, because the odds are @1.75)

Would have gone against them if against a top team, as I did with City, but this is Brighton. A good team, and capable of taking points off Chelsea, but they're probably not good enough to get a clean sheet -- despite Chelsea's issues, I think Lukaku back on the starting lineup puts pressure off the other attackers to create.

Match starting, I won't mind losing this prediction to see a high-scoring draw. Just in that kind of mood.

I tried to go 0-1 for Chelsea as a win but then I thought that since some games before Brighton was capable of scoring against Chelsea and that game ended 1-1 I changed my prediction to 1-2 win for Chelsea.I doubt Brighton will have another positive result against Chelsea this time and Chelsea I think is already winning and showing a whole lot more serious game play than when they draw at home against Brighton in a surprise result from a betting perspective.Event if it ends like this 0-1 I am happy with a close result.

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Quote from: Joca97 on January 18, 2022, 10:36:03 AM

He said he needed more time in Everton to make things happen but with such a club as Everton they dont want to gamble to get relegated.

Yeah, but there's not many better on the market at the moment. Lampard, and Ole are the only ones which stick out, and we all know how their careers went. Well, to be fair Lampard's managerial career was better received than Ole's...

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Match starting, I won't mind losing this prediction to see a high-scoring draw. Just in that kind of mood.

I'm going with a 2-0 to Chelsea. Brighton just haven't got enough sting in their attack, and Chelsea have one of the best defensive records. Brighton have also conceded at least one in the last few outings. So, I think going for a 1-0 or 2-0 Chelsea win is sensible.

I'd be shocked if it was a high scoring match with both teams scoring, I can see Chelsea maybe scoring a over three, but they haven't been the best attacking wise this season.

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 18, 2022, 09:08:56 AM

regarding tonight matches, Burnley is postponed
so, Chelsea only, and they should win after all (would be interesting to see do we have 95+% consensus in a pool for this, because the odds are @1.75)

Would have gone against them if against a top team, as I did with City, but this is Brighton. A good team, and capable of taking points off Chelsea, but they're probably not good enough to get a clean sheet -- despite Chelsea's issues, I think Lukaku back on the starting lineup puts pressure off the other attackers to create.

Match starting, I won't mind losing this prediction to see a high-scoring draw. Just in that kind of mood.

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Rafa is quite an overrated manager (in my personal opinion). Yes, he is winning UCL with Liverpool, to be honest with a lot of luck. besides what he did significantly? wherever he was, he was sacked very quickly. After the Liverpool period, he leads Inter, Real, Chelsea, Everton, Napoli it had below-average results everywhere. Maximum one year in each of these clubs. (I'm not considering Newcastle and Dalian Chinese club, because they may be happy with the average results)

He's not a top manager, but he isn't terrible at what he does. His tactics can be somewhat questionable at times, especially with Everton. However, he's more of a defensive manager in my opinion, which suits lower placed teams in the league which is probably backed up by him Championship with Newcastle.

Though, his resume isn't awful. one Champions league, two Uefa Cups, Fifa club world cup if you care about that, and Championship. I believe he also won a Community Shield too. He's not someone that Liverpool should be hiring, but at the time he managed us we wasn't a top team, we were a team that could challenge for top four. Now, our expectations as fans, and the players themselves will be title challengers every season. He doesn't really suit either of those expectations, instead he suits teams like Newcastle or Championship sides looking to get promoted.

Rafa Benitez is a really good coach honestly. His history and results show that he is one the best coaches in the world(not at the moment).
He said he needed more time in Everton to make things happen but with such a club as Everton they dont want to gamble to get relegated.

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Quote from: examplens on January 18, 2022, 09:00:09 AM

Rafa is quite an overrated manager (in my personal opinion). Yes, he is winning UCL with Liverpool, to be honest with a lot of luck. besides what he did significantly? wherever he was, he was sacked very quickly. After the Liverpool period, he leads Inter, Real, Chelsea, Everton, Napoli it had below-average results everywhere. Maximum one year in each of these clubs. (I'm not considering Newcastle and Dalian Chinese club, because they may be happy with the average results)

He's not a top manager, but he isn't terrible at what he does. His tactics can be somewhat questionable at times, especially with Everton. However, he's more of a defensive manager in my opinion, which suits lower placed teams in the league which is probably backed up by him Championship with Newcastle.

Though, his resume isn't awful. one Champions league, two Uefa Cups, Fifa club world cup if you care about that, and Championship. I believe he also won a Community Shield too. He's not someone that Liverpool should be hiring, but at the time he managed us we wasn't a top team, we were a team that could challenge for top four. Now, our expectations as fans, and the players themselves will be title challengers every season. He doesn't really suit either of those expectations, instead he suits teams like Newcastle or Championship sides looking to get promoted.

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Quote from: examplens on January 18, 2022, 09:00:09 AM

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Rafa is quite an overrated manager (in my personal opinion). Yes, he is winning UCL with Liverpool, to be honest with a lot of luck. besides what he did significantly? wherever he was, he was sacked very quickly. After the Liverpool period, he leads Inter, Real, Chelsea, Everton, Napoli it had below-average results everywhere. Maximum one year in each of these clubs. (I'm not considering Newcastle and Dalian Chinese club, because they may be happy with the average results)

agree on Rafa, but as a fan, I would consider Everton as well as team that is happy with average results, or a bit above average, not chasing a title, certainly
indeed, it is expected to be in upper half (Europe as bonus), not close to relegation zone, and not to lose from Norwich definitely, who would you win then?

regarding tonight matches, Burnley is postponed
so, Chelsea only, and they should win after all (would be interesting to see do we have 95+% consensus in a pool for this, because the odds are @1.75)

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Quote from: Welsh on January 18, 2022, 08:16:01 AM

Quote from: leea-1334 on January 17, 2022, 05:11:00 AM

No words for Rafa. Imagine living in a city where both clubs sacked you,,, it will be hard on him.

Most Liverpool fans I know like Rafa. Obviously, Everton never really liked him even when he was first appointed. It was always going to end in disaster, and even if he delivered the results he wouldn't have ever got all of their support.

Rafa is quite an overrated manager (in my personal opinion). Yes, he is winning UCL with Liverpool, to be honest with a lot of luck. besides what he did significantly? wherever he was, he was sacked very quickly. After the Liverpool period, he leads Inter, Real, Chelsea, Everton, Napoli it had below-average results everywhere. Maximum one year in each of these clubs. (I'm not considering Newcastle and Dalian Chinese club, because they may be happy with the average results)

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Quote from: swogerino on January 16, 2022, 03:09:28 PM

I would say that is extremely difficult for Liverpool to become Champions of Premier League this year but just one or two mistakes from Manchester City and boom Liverpool is right behind their tail if Liverpool starts to not perform weakly when playing outside Anfield Road.So far they have been very inconsistent in results when playing away from home and that is what is keeping them right now 11 points behind Manchester City,not impossible to overturn the situation but extremely difficult.

If we win the game in hand, I would be silently confident of our chances. Manchester City aren't invincible, and few times already this season they've shown that they're quite fragile in certain areas, and with the current climate with Covid they only have to start picking up injuries, and Covid cases.

Obviously, the Premier League seem to be quite lenient on the postponement of games until Covid cases have been cleared up, but I suspect they'll drop quite a few points. Although, I'm not that confident in Liverpool picking up points against Crystal Palace this weekend. So, that's not a great start to my optimism.

Quote from: leea-1334 on January 17, 2022, 05:11:00 AM

No words for Rafa. Imagine living in a city where both clubs sacked you,,, it will be hard on him.

Most Liverpool fans I know like Rafa. Obviously, Everton never really liked him even when he was first appointed. It was always going to end in disaster, and even if he delivered the results he wouldn't have ever got all of their support.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 16, 2022, 01:32:20 PM

West Ham are probably one of the better teams which struggle with constant inconsistency. They're infuriating from a betting stand point, because you just aren't sure what they'll do next. Hearing that Rafa has been sacked by Everton. I'd say from a Liverpool stand point, his tenure was one of the best in recent memory for them.

Liverpool doing well today, and performing above my expectations, without the main two I was expecting a 2-0 victory. I've got renewed while AFCON continues, so hopefully we don't drop any points, win our games in hand, and we might still have a chance to challenge Manchester City or am I a little bit too optimistic?

I wonder if this is the same to be said of my own team Spurs,,, or if this was something we could only say two or three seasons ago. Great odds to bet on and sometimes you watch and it is so great to see them play,,, but from one swing to another they can show up and disappear.

No words for Rafa. Imagine living in a city where both clubs sacked you,,, it will be hard on him.

Do not give up. Push City to the limits. All they need is a favor from Palace again, and who knows even United

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Quote from: Welsh on January 16, 2022, 01:32:20 PM

West Ham are probably one of the better teams which struggle with constant inconsistency. They're infuriating from a betting stand point, because you just aren't sure what they'll do next. Hearing that Rafa has been sacked by Everton. I'd say from a Liverpool stand point, his tenure was one of the best in recent memory for them.

Liverpool doing well today, and performing above my expectations, without the main two I was expecting a 2-0 victory. I've got renewed while AFCON continues, so hopefully we don't drop any points, win our games in hand, and we might still have a chance to challenge Manchester City or am I a little bit too optimistic?

I would say that is extremely difficult for Liverpool to become Champions of Premier League this year but just one or two mistakes from Manchester City and boom Liverpool is right behind their tail if Liverpool starts to not perform weakly when playing outside Anfield Road.So far they have been very inconsistent in results when playing away from home and that is what is keeping them right now 11 points behind Manchester City,not impossible to overturn the situation but extremely difficult.

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West Ham are probably one of the better teams which struggle with constant inconsistency. They're infuriating from a betting stand point, because you just aren't sure what they'll do next. Hearing that Rafa has been sacked by Everton. I'd say from a Liverpool stand point, his tenure was one of the best in recent memory for them.

Liverpool doing well today, and performing above my expectations, without the main two I was expecting a 2-0 victory. I've got renewed while AFCON continues, so hopefully we don't drop any points, win our games in hand, and we might still have a chance to challenge Manchester City or am I a little bit too optimistic?

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Surprised a bit about the result of West Ham when in fact I should be not,they are not the reliable team that is staying near the top of the standings,I don't think they deserve to stay where they are and very soon they will be passed by Arsenal.These teams are also extremely dangerous to bet on them as they are not reliable,I lost a bit of ETC today on them,anyway I am not that mad,I learned my lesson to stay away from not affirmed teams in the top of the standings.

Liverpool played very well but unfortunately they are not consistent,they keep delivering at home but when playing away they some time deliver and some time they don't.

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Phew, wasn't such a bad game to watch actually. First half looked nervy but for some reason Brentford look subdued after the restart. 20 shots on goal, 10 on target before we got the second goal, so I'd say well worth the win but should have got more and it'd be fair (and remember we went 3-3 on the first meet). Nice to see Ox get his goal after so long, not nice he seemed to get injured soon after. Even nicer to see our man Bobby totally unselfish, insisted Minamino to score, and then piggybacked him on the celebration. I love this team, have I mentioned? Haha.

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Even Wolves disappointed me, when was the last time they scored 3 goals in EPL? And see, we need to lay into Adama Traore hard, so he scores!

From what I was watching on some reviews of the match I believe they said 1974 was the last time they scored so many goals in the match.
This total was 70% of the goals they had scored in the EPL this season. If that isn't a statistic to laugh at.

Wow, almost 50 years then! I know they've been an attrition club for a bit, but talk about tradition, had no idea it stretched back that long!

Meanwhile, we've just had another manager casualty in Rafa Benitez. Norwich sure took him out.

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 16, 2022, 05:36:47 AM

Urgh yeah, was looking forward to Arsenal-Spurs to end the weekend, but now we've got another bunchup. Spurs the poor victims again, just can't catch a break. Really hope we get a good game today, took too many risks in the predictions to try and widen the distance so hope at least one or two risks pay off.

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Today i was thinking this might be the best week yet. But late goals killed me. I didnt see so many late goals that killed me for a long time. Wolves score in 91st minute ,Newcastle conceded in 88th minute. Man Utd same conceded in last minutes. Pure unluck this week

It affected quite a lot of us, but gave a lot of others great points too. Imagine, from 0 points to getting 3 exact on Newcastle's 1-1... and for guys like us to get 3 points to 0 in one moment and one goal eh?

Even Wolves disappointed me, when was the last time they scored 3 goals in EPL? And see, we need to lay into Adama Traore hard, so he scores!

From what I was watching on some reviews of the match I believe they said 1974 was the last time they scored so many goals in the match.
This total was 70% of the goals they had scored in the EPL this season. If that isn't a statistic to laugh at.

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they conveniently used covid excuse to postpone

seems like this was the case. And yeah, i just read the press statement from Spurs and you could tell the people in that camp are fuming: "We are extremely surprised that this application has been approved." not pulling any punches huh, middle finger to the PL Grin

Yeah, they are using it as an excuse I'd imagine, without their captain in the lineup and all.
They just played them in the champions league last week and without Son seeing they couldn't handle their offensive lineup. It does seem they just need a break with a postponement.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 16, 2022, 05:22:35 AM

they conveniently used covid excuse to postpone

seems like this was the case. And yeah, i just read the press statement from Spurs and you could tell the people in that camp are fuming: "We are extremely surprised that this application has been approved." not pulling any punches huh, middle finger to the PL Grin

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Urgh yeah, was looking forward to Arsenal-Spurs to end the weekend, but now we've got another bunchup. Spurs the poor victims again, just can't catch a break. Really hope we get a good game today, took too many risks in the predictions to try and widen the distance so hope at least one or two risks pay off.

Quote from: Joca97 on January 15, 2022, 03:40:55 PM

Today i was thinking this might be the best week yet. But late goals killed me. I didnt see so many late goals that killed me for a long time. Wolves score in 91st minute ,Newcastle conceded in 88th minute. Man Utd same conceded in last minutes. Pure unluck this week

It affected quite a lot of us, but gave a lot of others great points too. Imagine, from 0 points to getting 3 exact on Newcastle's 1-1... and for guys like us to get 3 points to 0 in one moment and one goal eh?

Even Wolves disappointed me, when was the last time they scored 3 goals in EPL? And see, we need to lay into Adama Traore hard, so he scores!

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on January 15, 2022, 02:28:09 PM

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And you're right, it only makes sense to bet on United right?

my bad,, my comment did not age well 😂 they just ruined my 19 odds acca,, bottlers

anyway, does anyone else why the London Derby was postponed? iirc Arsenal had one or two covid positive cases, Spurs don't have any Huh

I think what surprised me here was not that United dropped poins, but that they didn't lose. Coutinho got his dream start though, one assist and one goal, so he and Gerrard must be considered Liverpool heroes in Villa now, so weird, that I read everything and they kind of forgot Coutinho was playing with Messi too, but I guess his time there wasn't so memorable.

Good game, and especially to shipley for getting an exact score on this!

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on January 15, 2022, 02:28:09 PM

anyway, does anyone else why the London Derby was postponed? iirc Arsenal had one or two covid positive cases, Spurs don't have any Huh

Arsenal asked for postponement I am not sure how many covid cases they have, but not a lot. They got it on the grounds that they don't have enough (13 + goalkeeper) first team players to field. Now the problem is some of their players are injured, some are on AFCON, some have cards and they conveniently used covid excuse to postpone. There was some outrage regarding this decision, mainly from Spurs as expected.

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