Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 32. (Read 143376 times)

It would have been worse if Abramovic and Mourinho had not intervened to prevent the league from turning into a farmers' league. Ref Mike and Howard Webb nearly destroyed my love for football; they were by far the most corrupt English referees on the Manutd payroll.

Saw that video. Lol, we don't have the best stadium in London, but we do have the best training equipments, and Arsenal and West Ham fans can't talk to us. 

Yeah the referees were definitely intimidated by him. I was a kid in the 90’s and those bastards ruined my childhood winning everything so it’s good to see them suffer now

Yeah their facilities are awful, the stadium leaks when it rains heavily - https://youtu.be/lF7FPJSALDc

I think their new owners are actively planning to sort the off the pitch stuff out though.

Many theories I partially believe tho. Ferguson left a very old squad, he did not prepare the club and structure well, it was nothing like what Klopp or Liverpool did I think, which is what makes me think wow more than anything else.

Remember Ferguson won the last title by buying the wild card RvP.

So yes he was definitely holding it together but I think he knew it was gonna fall apart too.

I don't hate Manchester United but it is really nice to see them act so funny lol

From the last a few seasons it's Liverpool vs City in the tittle race even though the year before Liverpool were not even in the top 4. Arsenal were looking a threat for City last season but eventually Arsenal lost their way at the end of the season.

It sounds nice, democratic but I never seen it in practice anywhere.

The Sir Alex era was great, but let's not pretend he didn't have the entire FA refs in his pocket; the club received favourable decisions, and SAG got away with so many things that other managers were penalised for. Every week, they played with 12 men (+ ref). He was equally feared and respected. They haven't been the same since he retired....... And might not be..

Heard their training and stadium facilities are all outdated too. Lol

Ten Hag is like a golden boy, the board will do what he wants including some staff brought in from Ten Hag's wishes, not so smoothly what the strategy plans remain chaotic.

OK, W4 against Southampton as away Manchester United can win because this is an opponent that is not worth it.
W5 against Crystal Palace as away is a little difficult, I know Palace is sometimes difficult to beat at home.
W6 against Spurs is still indecisive and doubts the victory at Old Trafford, if not winning then the board will likely decide soon. If he is fired early, no problem Manchester United will bear all the costs of his contract.

Until now no one can continue the legacy of Ferguson. The chaos continued until the Ten Hag era.

They literally sign everyone that Ten Hag wants, they gave him full support and yet Ten Hag is now digging his own grave with all that.

Its ugly for us, lost 2 from the first 3 games and the next 5 rounds would be crucial for Ten Hag, if he cant win atleast 4 of them then I'd imagine how the board would react to this.


I'd hate to say this but nothing has been working for us since Fergie left. Actually the worst decision was to bring in David Moyes after Fergie left, everything has been falling apart ever since

I don't really blame the managers, I blame the structure above them. I swear to God that sometimes I have a feeling that they buy buy players based on Instagram followers and not on the pitch performance.

What they are doing is laughable and yeah, nice to see them in such a situation for a change. It is respectable though that they still do so well financially without consecutive CL appearances and with such poor performances.

Man Utd’s drop off since Ferguson left is crazy, football has changed but it seems he was the only man holding that club together.

They have spent so much money, actually more than Man City in recent years but they continue to be a poor team. Ten Hag has spent £600,000,000 and they are no better than when he started there. As a Liverpool fan I hope it continues.

United managers seem to like to dwell on the past. I remember Mourinho's famous 3 fingers. I won more than all the 19 managers in Premier League combined. Respect. lol

Nobody ignores the past but the present it the only thing that matters in football. Arsenal were kings of FA Cup but fans needed to see them compete for Premier League. That's the essence of football, winning leagues.

Injustice and that isn't ending anytime soon which is why I love it when the small clubs disgrace the big ones (excluding when it's my club though lol). Money has spoiled the good game of football.

All clubs should be treated the same and not allowing some to get away with things that a smaller club will be penalize for. VRA isn't fair, the referee aren't fair too and it's the small club being bullied all the time.

And that is the sole reason City will never face severe punishment that will hinder their league and Champions League performance: they are the face of the league and produce more revenue for the FA in the CL. I usually tell my colleagues that no one cares about these midtable clubs; if you commit a little offence, you're more likely to receive a penalty quicker than any top team with the same offence.


You stated that such restrictions do not exist and that managers can walk out of the technical area without penalties. No offence, but I'm done with this discussion if you can't admit you got it wrong and I was correct all along.

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Did you read the link you shared? If not, I helped you with a screenshot and a highlight to make it easy.
It clearly stated there that occasionally stepping out of your technical area can get a warning, not a caution. Now please read this part slowly, YOU said Arteta stepped out of his technical area ONE TIME and did not get a yellow card, that is NOT the rule and does not show inconsistencies as you were trying to point out for some reasons.
If you still do not get it, I give up on the topic.

I will disagree on this. Arteta has come under fire for doing things other coaches will get away with. I remember when he complained about a referee's decision in his post match interview and called it a disgrace or words along those line and was absolutely piled on, other coaches have had the liberty of complaining and using certain words without coming under fire. He has also been booked for over-celebrating when he did not even get into the pitch, but as you highlighted, Klopp has run the full length and back without a caution. Arteta was the most booked coach last season, that is not someone who is enjoying a privilege.
If you notice, Arteta has become so much less animated than he used to be two seasons or so ago, why do you think that is?

You have to be good at it for it to be called banter, valid arguments is a stretch  

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I think this is more a club thing. If Klopp was managing Brighton, he'd have been fined all the time.

Top clubs generate most of the traffic, thus generating most of the money, thus getting most of the privileges. Shitty that it's this way, but as long as money runs the game we'll be seeing more and more of it.

Hahaha un_rank is too stubborn it's common thing among Kai Havertz lovers, I only hate the fact that he sees valid arguments and banter as "troll" I understand football banter is not for everyone but.... We do it for a living...

You took the words out of my mouth and explained them perfectly; some managers appear to enjoy the privilege of straying from the technical area without being penalised, but claiming that such rules do not exist is not true, which is why I left him the link above.

Some managers are motivated by passion and want to be involved in games, which can lead them away from the technical area unintentionally, but I can't say the same with Arteta, who enjoys being on the touchline because he knows the FA refs are inconsistent. The Premier League allows top managers to get away with a lot of wrongdoing, which is the problem.

^ Nice link, I read some of his comments but watching the whole bit is brilliant (even if the reporter actually got a couple of facts wrong as comments pointed out). ETH definitely should have considered a career in politics.

P.S. This is the essence of banter, un_rank and Igebotz fighting it out over technical area misconduct haha. This is why we have this pool on the forum! And this is why Sportsbet mf punters are the best here.

Not taking sides here just adding my own, I know nobody asked haha. Technically, what I notice in the EPL anyway, refs turn a blind eye to managers simply leaving technical areas (without committing any other offence). And I know Klopp especially used to get ignored when he did this -- but if some sort of non-positive behaviour accompanies, refs in England dish out a warning before the caution. He's definitely been cautioned, even sent off, for it, and no complaints. So I would say Arteta is enjoying the same tolerance from English refs, as is Pep, another animated manager.

But yeah always exceptions, especially if it's positive behaviour I think. Celebrations usually go unpunished (I think?) but he definitely should have been cautioned when he ran onto the pitch to celebrate Origi's win vs flailing Pickford. Man but I would probably have done the same, but being objective, I really don't think non-playing people should ever enter the pitch, it's hallowed ground.

Ten Hag's problem is that for those who follow United his excuses are already known and he has to repeat them over and over again.
Thanks for the link! These DMCA complaints that cause so much content to disappear from social networks are becoming a real cancer. I don't understand why this doesn't fall under fair use?

Still same excuses of " I won more trophies than Liverpool, Tottenham and Arsenal in the last two years" But not really an excuse, hehe. I'm not sure how he managed to gain club support given how the club has performed since his arrival.

Same issue with Chelsea: sacking managers isn't working, and it's difficult to get a broken squad to compete again.


Hey buddy Check this out  https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

Do you imagine scenarios dude? This what you wrote which I responded too-
There is no such rule, coaches do it all the time, it can only be an issue when it is persistent or done violently like to kick a cooler or something like that which is what I pointed out to you. It is impossible to have a rational conversation with you cause you keep doubling down and grabbing at straws.

Another straw grab and use of buzz words

- Jay -

I missed that you made it a multibet, I read that it was just a straight down bet, very big missed opportunity for sure man.

I like media clips, usually managers are getting it very unfair I agree, but come on, they should know that's a big part of the job, literally they are getting paid to get the abuse

The link you shared is gone tho, but I found the clip for those who haven't enjoyed Ten Hag enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbgz4rBh-fs

Amazing politician!