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Quote from: Igebotz on June 04, 2024, 03:19:48 PM

Talk of the devil - Manchester City took the Premier League to court; now who is guilty? Premier League, or Manchester City? Taking the war to your enemies' lands before they do, holding them by the balls, and allowing both parties to settle out of court is a wise tactic in my opinion.

They are basically telling the Premier league, "we did not break your rules, your rules were broken from the beginning"

This suggests that they think the hearing will not go in their favor and they want to stay ahead of the proceedings, but I do not think they are the only club who have lost some level of faith in how the league is handling the legal part of business.

Edit; I did some research and the suit from City has nothing to do with any of the charges against them

Quote from: Igebotz on June 04, 2024, 03:19:48 PM

Honestly I don't think they've done anything different from what Liverpool, Chelsea, Manutd and Arsenal has been doing over the years - undisclosed fees shit and all that... We're just jealous Grin

Nah, you two are the corrupt ones

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Quote from: un_rank on June 04, 2024, 01:43:00 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on June 03, 2024, 01:31:53 PM

Manchester City, even with a 10-point deduction, would still compete for the league title.

Yes they can compete, but I think it will be impossible for them to win it under such conditions. Only once have they won the league with over 10 points gap and that was when they finished with 100 points and United were second with 81. Everyone was so bad that season that Tottenham finished third.

If they're able to compete for the league with -10 points handicap then it further shows how far they're above all other teams. Assnal are only closest team to them , just lacking some fighting mentality.

Talk of the devil - Manchester City took the Premier League to court; now who is guilty? Premier League, or Manchester City? Taking the war to your enemies' lands before they do, holding them by the balls, and allowing both parties to settle out of court is a wise tactic in my opinion.

Honestly I don't think they've done anything different from what Liverpool, Chelsea, Manutd and Arsenal has been doing over the years - undisclosed fees shit and all that... We're just jealous Grin

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Quote from: Igebotz on June 03, 2024, 01:31:53 PM

Manchester City, even with a 10-point deduction, would still compete for the league title.

Yes they can compete, but I think it will be impossible for them to win it under such conditions. Only once have they won the league with over 10 points gap and that was when they finished with 100 points and United were second with 81. Everyone was so bad that season that Tottenham finished third.

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Quote from: un_rank on May 30, 2024, 09:47:54 AM

I am tired of it as well. I hate it more when it is used to discredit what Pep has done in City or before then. It is a money spending sport now, all top clubs are splashing money on big players, some doing better business than others and City have been doing very good business in the last 5 years. Liverpool have also been doing very good business, their net spend is ridiculously low.

I do not even hold the 115 charge against them either and nothing will give more satisfaction than if we can win the league with Pep at the top of his game and zero point deductions. I would have loved Klopp to also be in the league at the time, but that ship has sailed already.

Yeah, Chelsea and Liverpool (COVID 19 trophy) are the only teams to win the trophy despite Pep's uproar; it wasn't easy, but it could have been worse without these two clubs. Imagine winning 4-5 times in a row. Manchester City, even with a 10-point deduction, would still compete for the league title.

Quote from: buwaytress on June 03, 2024, 10:07:26 AM

Agree about moaning. I like that we won against City with Pep and money, I love when United finish 8th Igebotz. You excited about er, Maresca (don't know how to spell his name yet, just saw the headline quickly while out today)? Bayern getting a manager from a relegated team, Chelsea getting one from a team just promoted. We're getting a nobody in Europe. The world is funny, but hey, fresh managerial blood!

Arsenal are bloodthirsty, but it's difficult to dethrone Pep unless you're Conte or Klopp. Our managers are in beta mode, so I'm not too concerned. His performance would decide his fate at the end of the season.

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Agree about moaning. I like that we won against City with Pep and money, I love when United finish 8th Igebotz. You excited about er, Maresca (don't know how to spell his name yet, just saw the headline quickly while out today)? Bayern getting a manager from a relegated team, Chelsea getting one from a team just promoted. We're getting a nobody in Europe. The world is funny, but hey, fresh managerial blood!

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 30, 2024, 05:26:29 AM

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I am tired of it as well. I hate it more when it is used to discredit what Pep has done in City or before then. It is a money spending sport now, all top clubs are splashing money on big players, some doing better business than others and City have been doing very good business in the last 5 years. Liverpool have also been doing very good business, their net spend is ridiculously low.

I do not even hold the 115 charge against them either and nothing will give more satisfaction than if we can win the league with Pep at the top of his game and zero point deductions. I would have loved Klopp to also be in the league at the time, but that ship has sailed already.

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Quote from: SATWAT on May 29, 2024, 05:51:13 PM

Here I agreed with you about few things which are clearly saying if we have no Manchester City with their deep pockets then surely this Premier League is having more competitiveness and better place for the teams like Liverpool and Arsenal, but they ruin this all and won their last six titles with just all money. Even many are expecting punishment for them, but I am not positive about this all because they can bring changes as they wanted with this all case is taking too much time which is also creating confusion about this all.
Liverpool and Chelsea are going to be had interesting season which will be give how things will be work for them after having new coach, and we will have Arsenal and Manchester City again at the top spots as well.

The Pep money talk is becoming a pretty tiresome excuse because Chelsea, Manchester United, and Liverpool have all spent more than City in recent years (Liverpool fans don't come with Net spend excuses, go and check City net spend), and City are still miles ahead of these teams.

It's about managing a successful project and making smart buying choices. Manchester City and Pep would never pay as much for Caicido, Enzo, Nunez, and Rice as other clubs did. Pep has been replacing outgoing players with less expensive ones over the last three seasons, whereas other clubs have been sacking and scrapping their teams every season and rebuilding them from scratch.

Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, and Liverpool (now) are all in rebuilding phase, which Manchester City finished five years ago. Other teams are far behind Pep; it is not about the money; if it were about the money, Chelsea and Manchester United would win or compete every season.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 29, 2024, 07:24:51 AM

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Nice prop to the burn, and I fell right into it.

Liverpool is an obviously more successful club than Arsenal, no debates there. But you have had your long patches of no success so you should understand better when we get a project like what Arteta has started and you are waiting for the results (trophies) to finally begin to show.

We are not celebrating being the second best team in the league, we want the title.

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Arsenal are a really good team, much like ourselves over recent years if Man City weren’t breaking rules (115 charges) we might both have a couple of extra PL titles. Hopefully the authorities deal with them properly in the court case next season, Pep leaves in shame at the end of his current contract in 2025 summer, then the league will be more open.

In all honesty I don’t know what to expect from Slot. We have several areas of the team that need drastic improvement. Hopefully our cheapskate owners cough up this summer.

Here I agreed with you about few things which are clearly saying if we have no Manchester City with their deep pockets then surely this Premier League is having more competitiveness and better place for the teams like Liverpool and Arsenal, but they ruin this all and won their last six titles with just all money. Even many are expecting punishment for them, but I am not positive about this all because they can bring changes as they wanted with this all case is taking too much time which is also creating confusion about this all.
Liverpool and Chelsea are going to be had interesting season which will be give how things will be work for them after having new coach, and we will have Arsenal and Manchester City again at the top spots as well.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 29, 2024, 07:42:25 AM

In all honesty I don’t know what to expect from Slot. We have several areas of the team that need drastic improvement. Hopefully our cheapskate owners cough up this summer.

Me neither. I out of curiosity would have watched some clips of his former club play, but clips do not give the full picture, you have to follow performances over an entire season. Best of luck for next season.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 29, 2024, 06:58:50 AM

Chelsea have made a mistake sacking Poch I think. He’d just started to get them playing well. The guy they’ve brought in is a puzzling one too, he hasn’t got the aura a club like Chelsea need.

True but the only positive aspect of it is that we won our last few games of the season with the new configuration, Enzo is well known for. ( Pushing the LB towards the midfield to push extra players into the opponent box. Worked fine with us. Knew un_rank was coming to your ass after that statement you made Grin

Quote from: un_rank on May 29, 2024, 07:11:19 AM

I think they do. Is that not how WestHam who finished 14th last season made it to the Europa league? I do not remember them playing any play-off matches.

Just found that out but we want CL football next season. Lol

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Quote from: un_rank on May 29, 2024, 07:37:30 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 29, 2024, 07:24:51 AM

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Nice prop to the burn, and I fell right into it.

Liverpool is an obviously more successful club than Arsenal, no debates there. But you have had your long patches of no success so you should understand better when we get a project like what Arteta has started and you are waiting for the results (trophies) to finally begin to show.

We are not celebrating being the second best team in the league, we want the title.

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Arsenal are a really good team, much like ourselves over recent years if Man City weren’t breaking rules (115 charges) we might both have a couple of extra PL titles. Hopefully the authorities deal with them properly in the court case next season, Pep leaves in shame at the end of his current contract in 2025 summer, then the league will be more open.

In all honesty I don’t know what to expect from Slot. We have several areas of the team that need drastic improvement. Hopefully our cheapskate owners cough up this summer.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 29, 2024, 07:24:51 AM

2005

Nice date to choose. If you go back just five more years we have double the league titles you have.

Liverpool is an obviously more successful club than Arsenal, no debates there. But you have had your long patches of no success so you should understand better when we get a project like what Arteta has started and you are waiting for the results (trophies) to finally begin to show.

We are not celebrating being the second best team in the league, we want the title.

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Quote from: un_rank on May 29, 2024, 07:11:19 AM

Liverpool has one league title in the last 34 years

Arsenal trophies since 2005 -
5 x FA Cups
5 x Community Shield

Liverpool trophies since 2005

1 x PL title
2 x CL winners
1 x FIFA Club World Cup
2 x FA Cup
3 x League Cup
2 x UEFA Super Cup
2 x Community Shield

Worth mentioning Arsenal have never won the CL/European Cup in 137 years of their entire existence.

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 29, 2024, 06:51:09 AM

Winners do not automatically qualify for the Europa League, making it a waste of time.

I think they do. Is that not how WestHam who finished 14th last season made it to the Europa league? I do not remember them playing any play-off matches.

Quote from: Igebotz on May 29, 2024, 06:51:09 AM

Can Klopp just go already he's pissing me up with all he's negative comments and crybaby thing lately.

I agree for such a big moment for him he is focusing too much on what others are doing which has no relation with his former club or career.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 29, 2024, 06:58:50 AM

Arteta couldn’t win the PL title if Arsenal were the only team playing in it Cheesy

Liverpool has one league title in the last 34 years

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Arteta couldn’t win the PL title if Arsenal were the only team playing in it Cheesy

Chelsea have made a mistake sacking Poch I think. He’d just started to get them playing well. The guy they’ve brought in is a puzzling one too, he hasn’t got the aura a club like Chelsea need.

It’s time for Slot-ball any way. The rest of the league better be afraid Wink

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 28, 2024, 01:42:30 PM

Yeah, on the nett side of things, I think any team aspiring to Champions League via the league, will actually suffer playing in Conference -- in Europa, there is at least a route through by winning it outright.

I know the season's over, but I'm still somewhat processing. Some weird vibes coming out from Pep, ETH is surely out, hopefully to be replaced by another clown. Arteta will feel his time is come.

The Conference League is a pointless competition that only benefits the UEFA and not the club. Winners do not automatically qualify for the Europa League, making it a waste of time.

I'm concerned about our club's handling of long contracts for tier C coaches, who are often sacked and compensated after only one season. I'm not familiar with Enzo's history.

Can Klopp just go already he's pissing me up with all he's negative comments and crybaby thing lately.

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 28, 2024, 07:38:19 AM

I know this might be a little off topic. But will we have the euro superbet pool ? Because we are getting closer to it and im not seeing any news…

Yes. I will post the thread by the 1st at the latest.

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 27, 2024, 03:54:56 PM

Quote from: buwaytress on May 27, 2024, 09:17:32 AM

Ouch Igeh mine bosom padi, I just realised the damned Red Devils are in Europa, at your expense.

Lol Those bastard citizens sold us out to their lovely neighbour, and it was one of the worst games I've seen City play this season; they didn't come to win.

Not going to Europe is preferable to going to a conference league and playing against a bunch of unknown teams, wasting the players time. The net positive is that if we win the conference league, we become the only team in history to have won every European trophy.

Yeah, on the nett side of things, I think any team aspiring to Champions League via the league, will actually suffer playing in Conference -- in Europa, there is at least a route through by winning it outright.

I know the season's over, but I'm still somewhat processing. Some weird vibes coming out from Pep, ETH is surely out, hopefully to be replaced by another clown. Arteta will feel his time is come.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 28, 2024, 05:01:11 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on May 28, 2024, 04:00:57 AM

@fortebettor Most of you simply pay for a pool and then disappear without reading or following up on the thread

Yup, this sums it up perfectly. Also means that there's no reciprocity - the user does not want to give anything back to the sponsor/community by remaining active.

They crawl back only when they have something to complain about.

Still on my wide stroll through the forum continues for some pool of interest and this seems relatable in some thread to what is expected of certain genre of users as debated. Though with a different theme but still talks about participation on the forum thus, thread. Where users would just come for the pool only to crawl back out upon conclusion with little or no participation and throw some shady tricks.
@Igebotz @cryptofrka could relate, don’t want to be hitting the nails directly.

The thread should be made to serve its purpose as, being informative as it could get, a user that keeps up with the thread would be surly informed without dramatization.

From what has been discussed and referenced, suggestions and to decisions made where done considering possible cases of participation which should make understanding a lot easier and acceptable with that context.

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