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^  If the league won't resume at around June at the latest, chances are..  I really think it could get cancelled.  So they have to decide now than just wait around.

Anyway...  I feel weird today.  Like this feeling of butterflies in my stomach.  Anxiety?

As I said in the other PL thread UEFA has given the domestic leagues a deadline of May 25th for plans to be announced on how they're going to restart. I wouldn't be optimistic if they haven't started by then. Still not sure if they'll outright cancel the whole thing though. will likely cause more problems to be honest. They should just postpone it for as long as they need then restart when possible.



Plans are to restart the season in early June, players will return to training in a couple of weeks. I really don’t think the season will be cancelled & that’s not just because I’m an LFC fan.
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^  If the league won't resume at around June at the latest, chances are..  I really think it could get cancelled.  So they have to decide now than just wait around.

Anyway...  I feel weird today.  Like this feeling of butterflies in my stomach.  Anxiety?

As I said in the other PL thread UEFA has given the domestic leagues a deadline of May 25th for plans to be announced on how they're going to restart. I wouldn't be optimistic if they haven't started by then. Still not sure if they'll outright cancel the whole thing though. will likely cause more problems to be honest. They should just postpone it for as long as they need then restart when possible.

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^  If the league won't resume at around June at the latest, chances are..  I really think it could get cancelled.  So they have to decide now than just wait around.

Anyway...  I feel weird today.  Like this feeling of butterflies in my stomach.  Anxiety?
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/27/project-restart-12614208/

Charge 10k for a replica shirt and £100 for a hot dog. Prices probably aren't that far off for food. It's been a last time I went to game but mini pizzas were like £5 or something.

Must be some kind of gourmet game meat mini pizza. Makes me feel still "grateful" I can get steamed chickpeas and a street burger for less than 40 cents back home. The cheapness of the stuff in my mouth is unique, but reminds me people still can afford a ticket to escape the world for a little while.

Depends whether you class Chicago Town microwave pizzas as 'gourmet' as that's what they literally were selling. They usually cost £0.50-1.00 each if you buy them from the supermarket.

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Charge 10k for a replica shirt and £100 for a hot dog. Prices probably aren't that far off for food. It's been a last time I went to game but mini pizzas were like £5 or something.

Must be some kind of gourmet game meat mini pizza. Makes me feel still "grateful" I can get steamed chickpeas and a street burger for less than 40 cents back home. The cheapness of the stuff in my mouth is unique, but reminds me people still can afford a ticket to escape the world for a little while.

@Trofo, cryptofrka: so many stories that, one day will be made into docus. Things happen right smack in front of everyone, and the rich always get away with it. Maybe they pay for it with some years in luxury jail in their retirement, but it'll always be too late.
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Hahah, this is some funny journalism.

Although I'm sure Newcastle's owner will find a way to pump money into the club, the lineup in which Mbappe is surrounded with Dembele, Almiron and Longstaff really made me laugh.
Yes, you can have money. Yes, you can even spend it freely. But no - you cannot pair Mbappe with Almiron, Moussa Dembele and Matty fucking Longstaff. Not even in Fifa anymore.

I expect FFP rules to be more lenient and Newcastle to take maximum advantage, but even like that it would take them 5 years to assemble a team decent enough to challenge the top 4.

They can't be more lenient on some clubs than others. They're there to stop this sort of thing where wealthy owners buy a club and just buy the title by pumping money into them. There's pretty severe punishments for teams that do break them like City found out, but they probably should go further. No doubt City will manage to wrangle their way out of them as well.

@hilarious that is a brilliant idea. They probably don't even need to do it without stirring the Toon hornet's nest. Just pump the prices of hospitality tickets, pump the price of VIP tours off-games, pump every possible prawn-sandwich-catering package and they could really get themselves a nice pocket of change to get their dream team.

Charge 10k for a replica shirt and £100 for a hot dog. Prices probably aren't that far off for food. It's been a last time I went to game but mini pizzas were like £5 or something.

Hahah, this is some funny journalism.

Although I'm sure Newcastle's owner will find a way to pump money into the club, the lineup in which Mbappe is surrounded with Dembele, Almiron and Longstaff really made me laugh.
Yes, you can have money. Yes, you can even spend it freely. But no - you cannot pair Mbappe with Almiron, Moussa Dembele and Matty fucking Longstaff. Not even in Fifa anymore.

I expect FFP rules to be more lenient and Newcastle to take maximum advantage, but even like that it would take them 5 years to assemble a team decent enough to challenge the top 4.

if they want, they'll find a way around how to bypass FFP. I still not understand, how PSG buy Neymar (and Mbape) in the same transfer window. Some of his sponsors pay a big percentage of transfer cost. Same situation with Ronaldo's move to Juventus.

I expect that it will bring some prominent names which have an expired contract, plus there will be cheap players because of a pandemic... Things can be fine for Newcastle, maybe only a new low oil price can ruin their plans.  Wink

There's many ways you can easily bypass the rules. Teams could easily do deals with brands/companies where they get the sponsors to pay the players a lot more as part of their sponsorships. There's always loopholes in any business and smart lawyers will come up with new ones all the time. 
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So - PSG owners paid Neymar ~200 million pounds for a few pictures and an obligation to be the mascot during the Qatar world cup, said it is not relevant to the transfer, Neymar bought his contract from Barcelona and signed for PSG on a free. So, PSG did not pay 1 penny for Neymar. Their owners did, of course, but that money is not in PSG's books.

You have to give it to them, they did find a creative way. There is no rule FIFA/UEFA could implement that somebody with shitload of cash will not find a way to exploit.
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if they want, they'll find a way around how to bypass FFP. I still not understand, how PSG buy Neymar (and Mbape) in the same transfer window.

Oh, that's a story for a Guy Ritchie movie. PSG could not afford Neymar due to FFP rules so PSG did not buy Neymar.
There's a rule in Spain that every player needs to have a release clause fee inserted in his contract. Basically, if a club wants a player and a player wants to go, the club pays the release clause and the club that owns the player has to accept the offer. There is also a rule that a player can buy himself out, pay his release fee to the club and become a free player - free to sign for anyone on a free transfer.

So - PSG owners paid Neymar ~200 million pounds for a few pictures and an obligation to be the mascot during the Qatar world cup, said it is not relevant to the transfer, Neymar bought his contract from Barcelona and signed for PSG on a free. So, PSG did not pay 1 penny for Neymar. Their owners did, of course, but that money is not in PSG's books.
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Hahah, this is some funny journalism.

Although I'm sure Newcastle's owner will find a way to pump money into the club, the lineup in which Mbappe is surrounded with Dembele, Almiron and Longstaff really made me laugh.
Yes, you can have money. Yes, you can even spend it freely. But no - you cannot pair Mbappe with Almiron, Moussa Dembele and Matty fucking Longstaff. Not even in Fifa anymore.

I expect FFP rules to be more lenient and Newcastle to take maximum advantage, but even like that it would take them 5 years to assemble a team decent enough to challenge the top 4.

if they want, they'll find a way around how to bypass FFP. I still not understand, how PSG buy Neymar (and Mbape) in the same transfer window. Some of his sponsors pay a big percentage of transfer cost. Same situation with Ronaldo's move to Juventus.

I expect that it will bring some prominent names which have an expired contract, plus there will be cheap players because of a pandemic... Things can be fine for Newcastle, maybe only a new low oil price can ruin their plans.  Wink
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^  I think they had a great chance this year after beating Real imo, before Rona happened.

Hahah, this is some funny journalism.

Although I'm sure Newcastle's owner will find a way to pump money into the club, the lineup in which Mbappe is surrounded with Dembele, Almiron and Longstaff really made me laugh.
Yes, you can have money. Yes, you can even spend it freely. But no - you cannot pair Mbappe with Almiron, Moussa Dembele and Matty fucking Longstaff. Not even in Fifa anymore.

I expect FFP rules to be more lenient and Newcastle to take maximum advantage, but even like that it would take them 5 years to assemble a team decent enough to challenge the top 4.

Maybe around 6 transfer windows, three years.  And depending on how good their backroom staff is as far as scouting goes.

I think Poch could be a good pick to build something over there.  
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^  City wanted to copy Barca's template and had long term plan on how things should pan out.  And it wasn't just about winning trophies, it was also about building their academy and producing young talents like how Barca does it.

And they picked their transfers well over the years on average...  Unlike United after SAF.

City spent a lot of money to win the title a couple of times. They have really underperformed in Europe though, Pep needs to earn his money by winning the CL.
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@hilarious that is a brilliant idea. They probably don't even need to do it without stirring the Toon hornet's nest. Just pump the prices of hospitality tickets, pump the price of VIP tours off-games, pump every possible prawn-sandwich-catering package and they could really get themselves a nice pocket of change to get their dream team.

@harko two seasons maybe, but even that lineup won't be guaranteed to gel together in one season, so maybe 3 seasons minimum to play well together, but then you'd still need to beat City and Liverpool regularly.
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Newcastle should just start charging 10k for a game ticket and get their owners to buy the tickets every week. They'll soon rack up enough money 'legitimately' to then start spending and become the new City  Cheesy.

Other than Kylian Mbappe and perhaps, Walker... That fantasy team looks really achievable in two transfer windows, if you ask me.

First they need to look for a coach of high calibre with plan to stick him with a him for a long term regardless the results, 2nd they should approach bigger teams for player who are surplus to requirements, Barca, Real and Juventus comes to mind they'd get more than averagely fantastic players for great price, the only con being the wages such players would cost, they might end paying more in wages than they've avoided in transfer fees.

And they picked their transfers well over the years on average...  Unlike United after SAF.

Sticking to coach for a longer period would make that easier, but United's whoredom when it comes to managers, meehh!
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Hahah, this is some funny journalism.

Although I'm sure Newcastle's owner will find a way to pump money into the club, the lineup in which Mbappe is surrounded with Dembele, Almiron and Longstaff really made me laugh.
Yes, you can have money. Yes, you can even spend it freely. But no - you cannot pair Mbappe with Almiron, Moussa Dembele and Matty fucking Longstaff. Not even in Fifa anymore.

I expect FFP rules to be more lenient and Newcastle to take maximum advantage, but even like that it would take them 5 years to assemble a team decent enough to challenge the top 4.
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^  City wanted to copy Barca's template and had long term plan on how things should pan out.  And it wasn't just about winning trophies, it was also about building their academy and producing young talents like how Barca does it.

And they picked their transfers well over the years on average...  Unlike United after SAF.
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^  Yup...  I got rid of cable like a couple of months later after getting used to the firestick.  It has everything both paid and free stuff.  I personally like Kodi a lot.

I used to do the dodgy streams before but they were too unreliable and with lag and stuff or just cutting out. You end up missing out on goals. I would never pay for Sky unless they showed all games so for now I'll just stick with dazn which is great. I'm still hoping for some sort of UK-based service. Dazn are actually going to launch in the UK soon but I think it will mainly be for boxing. I'm sure they'll try bid on getting some of the PL rights when they're next available but not sure they'd have the money to outbid Sky. They'll probably do what Amazon did and just bid for a smaller package or maybe get BT's games if they drop out (which is speculated they will) or they just outbid them.

This article made me laugh:

https://talksport.com/football/695238/newcastle-takeover-outrageous-xi-new-owners-chelsea-man-city-transfer/

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Chelsea and City weren’t much better than Newcastle before their billionaire owners took over and transformed them pretty much overnight.

Suddenly, the Blues were buying world-beaters such as Andriy Shevchenko and Michael Ballack, while City were nabbing the likes of Robinho from Real Madrid.

There’s little reason why Newcastle wouldn’t be able to launch a similarly dramatic transformation of their current squad if backed by Bin Salman’s billions.

Back in May 2019, when Sheikh Khaled’s takeover bid emerged, Newcastle actually became second favourites to sign PSG sensation Mbappe, behind Real Madrid

Little reason? Apart from Financial Fair Play rules. You know it's slow for news when people are making ridiculous fantasy teams up:



Newcastle should just start charging 10k for a game ticket and get their owners to buy the tickets every week. They'll soon rack up enough money 'legitimately' to then start spending and become the new City  Cheesy.
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^  Yup...  I got rid of cable like a couple of months later after getting used to the firestick.  It has everything both paid and free stuff.  I personally like Kodi a lot.
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hilarious -

I’d be more than willing to pay a monthly subscription for all games to be televised, I don’t know why they don’t do it. I’m sure Barca & Real have this service.

As would I and I already get them all through Dazn but you need to jump through a few hoops to get it, but I would happily pay more for a UK-based service. They'll probably do their own subscription service eventually (and they do in some countries already) but they probably don't want to take the risk just yet whilst also severing ties with Sky and other big broadcasters. Once they go from TV to streaming there's probably no going back. What they should do is launch the service alongside TV broadcasters and give them a discount on the TV rights and maybe phase TV out. They still won't be able to show the 3'o clock games in the UK though unless they change the law. It's a silly and outdated one though.
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He probably isn't and I'm sure it'll be of the oil barons in the Arab world but I expect many more clubs to be bought in the future  by these people and they're just probably waiting for their chance to swoop them up. Most people don't want to let go of the clubs they own but Newcastle seems to have been a liability and nothing but a stress for Mike Ashley and the fans also hate him. Can't see why they'll like the new owners much more either, especially if they don't start spending cash, but as people have said it's not as easy as it used to be so I'm sure they'll get frustrated pretty quickly if nothing changes.

There's this guy, a former leader in my state, imagine a huge tract of land and sea full of oil, and full of timber, and extremely small population. We only hit 50% literacy LAST YEAR, we still fight diseases most countries eradicated decades ago (right now we have rabies, hand foot and mouth disease, in addition to Covid). Yet our GDP is massive, most goes towards central government (if anyone ever wonders how Malaysia got so rich), and massive untold amounts into the pockets of our ex leader, now retired.

Taib Mahmud, totally under the radar but he has also been rumoured to be the richest man in Asia. Take into account his entire dynasty and he puts some names to shame. He stays out of limelight because he doesn't do things like buy football clubs!

Oh and I do hope that streaming shake up happens!!! It's criminal how I actually subscribe to a local service for English games and I still don't get to watch all of them.

@tokeweed

Being stuck indoors all day & not being able to see friends & colleagues is depressing to be honest. We all work all week & look forward to the football & a few beers at the weekend but all pubs & bars are closed & football is off atm.

I’d say currently is one of the lowest times I can remember for my mood.

Hope you're well buddy. I've been working remotely for almost 4 years in a new country now, so I haven't met any of my friends (I don't have many anyway) for that long, and because of my circumstance, I hardly even meet people. I know only my butcher, neighbour... probably a bit more used to it than most, but it's still a rather lonely existence. That time I got out in Qatar for a few days was pretty cool, meeting real people for the first time in zonks. Now without football, it is a bit more depressing and especially with paycuts and now filling weekends with jobhunting rather than football. Bloody depressing... but we're all be okay I think.

Should go see you guys when we celebrate the league win!
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hilarious -

I’d be more than willing to pay a monthly subscription for all games to be televised, I don’t know why they don’t do it. I’m sure Barca & Real have this service.
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