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It says in this article that they are aiming for a June 12th restart.

There has also been a meeting in which short-term contracts for players whose contracts expire on June 30th were discussed, they will be allowed but they have to be agreed by both sides - so the players need to accept them.
It might be tough for some clubs to force players to sign these extensions, they are out of contracts and it would be hard to blame them if they just say they will not play during the summer.
I thought it will be requested from the players but I guess it is not legally possible to do so.
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I'm not really sure what's wrong with EPL players and clubs. First they didn't accepted cut of payments, now some are complaining that they will have to play during pandemy, bottom table teams complaining about playing on neutral grounds. Why there is no such problrms in other major leagues?

The bottom clubs don’t want to get relegated so are trying their best to drag it out & I presume they hope the season will be cancelled. Sadly for them there is a lot of money at stake, big TV & sponsorship deals so the season will almost certainly be completed.
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I'm not really sure what's wrong with EPL players and clubs. First they didn't accepted cut of payments, now some are complaining that they will have to play during pandemy, bottom table teams complaining about playing on neutral grounds. Why there is no such problrms in other major leagues?
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OK yeah the news surrounding the concessions around Project Restart are bordering on the realm of nonsense now. Looking away from tackles. How do you condition your instinct? Diving took an entire generation to kick in =p

June 1 the earliest but yeah, for the first time since lockdown, I'm beginning to wonder now if we will see anything this summer.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/13/premier-league-football-project-restart-threat-coronavirus-safety

hilarious, there are rumours that neutral grounds won’t be necessary as long as the clubs are willing to pay for the police presence at home games they may be permitted to do normal home & away.

I'm sure the lower-league teams will cry about having to fork out for that too. Fans would have to be pretty stupid to loiter around stadiums, especially if they've been told not to. Even more stupid if they actually try to get into grounds. Just watch the game at home.
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hilarious, there are rumours that neutral grounds won’t be necessary as long as the clubs are willing to pay for the police presence at home games they may be permitted to do normal home & away.
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Players are to be told at a Premier League Project Restart briefing on Wednesday to turn their faces away after they have been tackled, according to reports.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8313191/Players-told-turn-faces-away-tackled-Project-Restart-briefing.html

Surely this isn't legit? If they seriously suggest things like this it's clear they shouldn't be playing games right now. I don't really think there should be any changes to the actual game. Neutral grounds and no crowds: fair enough, but suggesting people look away during tackles is ridiculous.

It seems there's going to be a big meeting today at 10AM between the PL, managers and medical staff. It will be interesting to see what comes out of that:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11987034/premier-league-to-hold-conference-calls-with-captains-all-20-managers-and-medical-experts

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The Premier League will hold conference calls with club captains, managers and medical experts on Wednesday.

All 20 top-flight managers will attend the first-of-its kind meeting with Premier League officials to discuss the details of Project Restart.

I'm sure there'll still be the lower table teams complaining about neutral grounds.
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Good news to see that we will almost certainly see PL football return in the near future. I’ve missed the games so much, I will warm up by watching the Bundesliga Cheesy

Lol..  It's decent league tho if you get attached and know the players, the managers and the whole drama going on over there.  I watch it every now and then but if I had to reeaally follow another league...  It'd be the Championship.

Probably the same for me but only because of familiar faces and well, English. Every season I do try to identify one or two teams to follow anew from the big 4. This season it was Inter, and it's weird to see more familiar names than usual. I tried watching MLS before and I really couldn't get attached, it's just... somehow very different. They look like they run a lot but almost like watching a classic EPL match, you know what I mean?

Counting down the days, but trying not to expect too much.
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Good news to see that we will almost certainly see PL football return in the near future. I’ve missed the games so much, I will warm up by watching the Bundesliga Cheesy

Lol..  It's decent league tho if you get attached and know the players, the managers and the whole drama going on over there.  I watch it every now and then but if I had to reeaally follow another league...  It'd be the Championship.
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I agree hilarious & I think in the next meetings the PL reps will request that teams are allowed to play home & away as normal but obviously without fans.

The UK gov said that people can travel hours away from their homes to beauty spots to exercise or whatever so I don’t see why football teams can’t travel to various grounds to play. People are still getting on public transport like sardines in a can so I don’t see why teams can’t travel geographically across the UK.
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I think the issue with playing at their own grounds is that some stadiums are in highly populated, residential areas.
Can the police keep for example Liverpool fans away from outside the stadium, singing & drinking in large numbers?

I think the neutral grounds would be ones just off the motorway or with little housing numbers in the vicinity.

I'm not sure if that's the reasoning or not but fans will get to any ground if they want to. Obviously they should be told not to go and maybe even threatened with arrest if they do. I'm sure the majority of them will just watch it on TV rather than pointlessly loitering outside grounds though so I can't see this being a big problem, especially if fans are told not to to it. I was under the impression that neutral grounds were proposed just to keep the players confined to a limited space without them travelling backwards and forwards all over the country, thus risking contamination or whatever. If the lockdown is lifted for the majority of people and everybody else is going back to work then I can't see neutral stadiums being a necessity.
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I think the issue with playing at their own grounds is that some stadiums are in highly populated, residential areas.
Can the police keep for example Liverpool fans away from outside the stadium, singing & drinking in large numbers?

I think the neutral grounds would be ones just off the motorway or with little housing numbers in the vicinity.
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Personally, if they can get all the teams to agree to it except for the few straglers at the bottom they should just tell them tough shit. It's not a disadvantage when it's something all the teams have to deal with. Just seems like the relegation teams are looking for excuses to me.

Yup, and it's starting to get really annoying. They want the TV money because they will be bankrupt without it, they want protection regarding player salaries and contract expirations and when all they have to do is agree to games being played on neutral ground and they cannot even do that, it is really irritating to watch.

There is simply no scenario in which some of them will avoid relegation, it is not a charity event but one of the most competitive environments in sports in general. Somebody should tell them to stop crying, it's embarassing.

The PL is at risk of losing hundreds of millions if they don't get the games televised soon. It looks like the PL might have to issue refunds regardless of whether they games are shown soon:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52579299

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The refund is anticipated as matches are not taking place as expected - both because they will be played without fans and at different times to originally scheduled.

Premier League clubs are due to earn a total of £9.2billion from broadcasters for the 2019-22 cycle.

If so, maybe they will scrap the neutral venues proposition. Maybe they don't have to play them like that now anyway. The gov seems to be relaxing the lock down shortly so I can't see why playing games in the correct grounds would be such an issue as that's not something the gov have said can't happen. If teams are complaining and they might lose the TV money if they go ahead with neutral grounds then they might just scrap that idea. I would be surprised if Sky tried to get a refund from the PL though (assuming the games go ahead and are televised on Sky). That would likely sour their relationship pretty bad which Sky probably can't afford to lose. Maybe the PL should offer Sky all the games for no extra cost as since they're being played behind closed doors fans are going to need some way to watch the games and letting Sky show them would be a good deal for them. There were talks about showing them free to air but giving them all to sky would make sense to me.

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Good news to see that we will almost certainly see PL football return in the near future. I’ve missed the games so much, I will warm up by watching the Bundesliga Cheesy
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[Breaking news]

THE GOVERNMENT has given the Premier League the green light to resume behind closed doors from June 1.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11596493/boris-johnson-return-premier-league-tv/
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If this true, it is great news. without football is really boring.
whatever decision is made, the new season will most likely look like that. at least until the end of the year.

Agree hilarious, let’s get teams back training in a week or so, then we can start playing games again in June. The virus is going nowhere, we can’t put the world on hold for years whilst we try to get a vaccine. People will die, admittedly a very, very small % of people who get the virus. People die all over the world every day though, the whole saga is way overblown.

It can be true, but who will admit that the panic may have been exaggerated.
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Personally, if they can get all the teams to agree to it except for the few straglers at the bottom they should just tell them tough shit. It's not a disadvantage when it's something all the teams have to deal with. Just seems like the relegation teams are looking for excuses to me.

Yup, and it's starting to get really annoying. They want the TV money because they will be bankrupt without it, they want protection regarding player salaries and contract expirations and when all they have to do is agree to games being played on neutral ground and they cannot even do that, it is really irritating to watch.

There is simply no scenario in which some of them will avoid relegation, it is not a charity event but one of the most competitive environments in sports in general. Somebody should tell them to stop crying, it's embarassing.
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[Breaking news]

THE GOVERNMENT has given the Premier League the green light to resume behind closed doors from June 1.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11596493/boris-johnson-return-premier-league-tv/
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That's some news!

It means if all is goes well, does that means teams opting not to complete the season or claiming the would be at a disadvantage for playing at neutral wouldn't have a choice ?

To be honest I wasn't expecting the government to give the go ahead for PL resumption but we'll see how things will proceed from here, and I'm sure a better insight will be provided on what to expect from leagues with preparation to resume sooner.

Nah. It just means the gov have given the go-ahead for sports to go ahead. Now the Premier League will have some negotiations to do with teams on how to proceed. I'm sure whatever suggestions or propositions they make some teams will complain about it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52579299

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The Premier League says it has listened to the objections of some clubs to the use of neutral grounds if the season resumes and will support them in putting those views to the authorities.

Chief executive Richard Masters said the organisation was in an "ongoing dialogue" with government, police and ground safety officials.

"Everybody would prefer to play at home and away if at all possible, and it's clear to see some clubs feel more strongly about that than others," he said after a shareholders' meeting.

Personally, if they can get all the teams to agree to it except for the few straglers at the bottom they should just tell them tough shit. It's not a disadvantage when it's something all the teams have to deal with. Just seems like the relegation teams are looking for excuses to me.
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[Breaking news]

THE GOVERNMENT has given the Premier League the green light to resume behind closed doors from June 1.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11596493/boris-johnson-return-premier-league-tv/
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That's some news!

It means if all is goes well, does that means teams opting not to complete the season or claiming the would be at a disadvantage for playing at neutral wouldn't have a choice ?

To be honest I wasn't expecting the government to give the go ahead for PL resumption but we'll see how things will proceed from here, and I'm sure a better insight will be provided on what to expect from leagues with preparation to resume sooner.
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THE GOVERNMENT has given the Premier League the green light to resume behind closed doors from June 1.


The BBC article I read actually says no professional sports til June 1 at the earliest, not even behind closed doors. So looks like hilarious's source was right, mid-June looks most likely, but there's nothing preventing people from training now. Surprised to see July being considered for public venues though.

Brighton players tested positive was the news I read yesterday, and I'm sure this played at least a little into that decision.
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[Breaking news]

THE GOVERNMENT has given the Premier League the green light to resume behind closed doors from June 1.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11596493/boris-johnson-return-premier-league-tv/
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