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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 21, 2020, 12:30:52 PM

Yeah, saw that earlier. Spraying the balls is ridiculous.

Adrian Mariappa was the Watford player who tested positive: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52744883

Everything is ridiculous, football is a sport with a lot of contacts, it is impossible to keep players disinfected. Only fast tests can help, fast I mean 30 minutes before starting a game.

I'm just thinking if it's true that there will be a restart on 20 June, then there will be no pauses between two seasons or it will be very short. I guess it can be exhausting for players, plus it may be accelerated because of the European championship. It can be very problematic for teams with a short bench.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 21, 2020, 06:40:42 AM

Just heard that it's not just Deeney who doesn't wanna go back training. A couple of his other team mates won't too. And prolly some back room stuff.

The newest gossip is that Kante is refusing to train as well. He reported for the 1st training on Tuesday but apparently did not come yesterday.

It's not gossip; he's been allowed to miss training due to fears: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11671335/kante-chelsea-training-coronavirus/

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This is by far the funniest thing I came across today: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8342165/Premier-League-stars-return-training-hampered-STICKY-BALLS-disinfectant.html

There have reportedly been issues with the disinfectant that clubs are spraying on footballs as part of hygiene measures.

In a reaction with the hot weather, the substance has made the balls sticky and caused surfaces to become tacky which has affected movement.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere, this really is too much.

Yeah, saw that earlier. Spraying the balls is ridiculous.

Adrian Mariappa was the Watford player who tested positive: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52744883

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 21, 2020, 06:40:42 AM

Just heard that it's not just Deeney who doesn't wanna go back training. A couple of his other team mates won't too. And prolly some back room stuff.

The newest gossip is that Kante is refusing to train as well. He reported for the 1st training on Tuesday but apparently did not come yesterday.

This is by far the funniest thing I came across today: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8342165/Premier-League-stars-return-training-hampered-STICKY-BALLS-disinfectant.html

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There have reportedly been issues with the disinfectant that clubs are spraying on footballs as part of hygiene measures.

In a reaction with the hot weather, the substance has made the balls sticky and caused surfaces to become tacky which has affected movement.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere, this really is too much.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 20, 2020, 03:04:22 PM

Guess who’s back, back again, Virgil’s back.....

Hah! Cool cool...

Just heard that it's not just Deeney who doesn't wanna go back to training. A couple of his other team mates won't too. And prolly some back room staff.

*Did a quick check of the table. Looked at where Watford is*

Oooohh thaaat's why. I think those clubs just above the relegation zone could start lobbying for a cancellation and keep the table as is. Grin

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Quote from: Trofo on May 20, 2020, 01:27:26 PM

Exactly, it is not like our bosses ask us if we would come back to work, we have a job and contract. If I am not fulfilling my part of contractual obligation I will find my ass on the street without job very fast. What if doctors said they will not come to work to protect their families.

Ok, I am exaggerating a bit, we can't really compare essential services like healthcare and sports but I feel footballers are getting way too whiny. 20 years ago nobody would have said anything and leagues would already be restarted for sure. Hell, I have already started playing football with my mates and professionals didn't? Cinemas, theaters and shopping centers are opening all over the Europe and football stadiums are problems?

To be honest, I do not understand that part as well. One argument can be that we still take big precautions while working (we don't gather at the same places, we still distance ourselves in offices and sometimes even wear masks) and they would have to play full-contact sport.

But with all the tests being made and maximum safety protocols being introduced, they really should feel safe to play. Especially because they are getting paid throughout the whole process.

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Guess who’s back, back again, Virgil’s back.....

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 19, 2020, 02:40:52 PM

Scottish League is small fry in numerous ways compared to the PL, but it's harsh that they relegated Hearts. They shouldn't be doing that unless they mathematically can't get out of the relegation zone. I'm sure they'll get that over-turned. They should do what the Belgium league did and just suspend relegation and play with the extra team next year.

Yeah, it's unfair situation and Belgian league made good decision. While French league did same thing and teams in relegation zone were planning to take legal actions against it.
Little Off-topic but Hearts were my favorite Scottish club 10-15 years ago when they had mad contraversial owner from my country Cheesy

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People are bound to test positive, but that's why they do the tests so they don't spread it so people testing positive is unlikely to halt things.

Yeah, and it shouldn't be reason to stop everything. In Germany there was positive tests too, but they just closed infected payers and staff in quarantine.

@DeathAngel, Completely agree. I'm not really sure why EPL players are so sceptical about return. Bundesliga restarted without any issues, Serie A and La Liga players also returned to training without any complaints.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on May 20, 2020, 10:00:07 AM

My issue is we see people returning to work all over the UK now, why should PL players not do the same? There is regular testing of the players & club staff so there doesn’t seem to be a real justified reason for them not to return.
Obviously everybody has the right not to return but in that case they shouldn’t expect to be paid.

Exactly, it is not like our bosses ask us if we would come back to work, we have a job and contract. If I am not fulfilling my part of contractual obligation I will find my ass on the street without job very fast. What if doctors said they will not come to work to protect their families.

Ok, I am exaggerating a bit, we can't really compare essential services like healthcare and sports but I feel footballers are getting way too whiny. 20 years ago nobody would have said anything and leagues would already be restarted for sure. Hell, I have already started playing football with my mates and professionals didn't? Cinemas, theaters and shopping centers are opening all over the Europe and football stadiums are problems?

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^ Rofl. I wonder what happened. A Rona riot while going to the super market to buy his groceries? Cheesy

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 20, 2020, 10:57:56 AM

Looks like other players could follow this move. Can't the club make him play tho..? He is under contract. Fine him? I mean.. Is that it? A fine?

hefty fine + no salary...No work, no paycheck.

On another note, weird pic of the day:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11668266/mo-salah-arrives-at-liverpool-training-with-cracked-car-windscreen-as-klopps-leaders-gear-up-for-premier-league-return/

Well that's something you don't see too often Grin

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 20, 2020, 04:27:02 AM

Watford and Burnley were the two teams with players/staff that tested positive:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52726278

This was after Troy Deeney stated he wouldn't be returning to training fearing for the safety of his family:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52721397

Heh. -_-

Looks like other players could follow this move. Can't the club make him play tho..? He is under contract. Fine him? I mean.. Is that it? A fine?

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My issue is we see people returning to work all over the UK now, why should PL players not do the same? There is regular testing of the players & club staff so there doesn’t seem to be a real justified reason for them not to return.
Obviously everybody has the right not to return but in that case they shouldn’t expect to be paid.

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Watford and Burnley were the two teams with players/staff that tested positive:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52726278

This was after Troy Deeney stated he wouldn't be returning to training fearing for the safety of his family:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52721397

Quote from: cryptofrka on May 19, 2020, 03:25:56 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on May 19, 2020, 02:40:52 PM

People are bound to test positive, but that's why they do the tests so they don't spread it so people testing positive is unlikely to halt things.

I agree with that, yes. 1% is really a low number, they will get tests regularly and it looks as safe as it can be at this time.
I'm not for any more delays, it was just a conclusion that could have been drawn from this particular article.

It is a good thing that the Bundesliga resumed without any issues during the weekend, that will potentially speed things up as well.

It could become an issue if more and more players refuse to play. A handful have already voiced their concerns.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 19, 2020, 02:40:52 PM

People are bound to test positive, but that's why they do the tests so they don't spread it so people testing positive is unlikely to halt things.

I agree with that, yes. 1% is really a low number, they will get tests regularly and it looks as safe as it can be at this time.
I'm not for any more delays, it was just a conclusion that could have been drawn from this particular article.

It is a good thing that the Bundesliga resumed without any issues during the weekend, that will potentially speed things up as well.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 18, 2020, 02:20:08 PM

While EPL clubs are allowed to return to training, Scottish Premiership ended season and announced Celtic as champions - they were ahead Rangers by 13 points.
BTW, is it there any news when they are planning to continue Championship season? I only remember reading that all leagues bellow League Two were cancelled without any promotion/relegation between divisions.

Quote from: hilariousetc on May 18, 2020, 03:59:07 AM

Oh, and if anyone wants to watch the Bundesliga games Skybet are live streaming them all. It's free to sign up. Can't say I'm that bothered about most games but I'll definitely be watching Dortmund Vs Bayern on the 26th.

I watched most of Bundesliga games during weekend and now I watch Werder - Bayer game and what I can say - watching football in empty stadiums gives weird feelings, but such football is better than nothing. But fact that we will see empty stadiums in most leagues at least until 2021 makes me sad...

Scottish League is small fry in numerous ways compared to the PL, but it's harsh that they relegated Hearts. They shouldn't be doing that unless they mathematically can't get out of the relegation zone. I'm sure they'll get that over-turned. They should do what the Belgium league did and just suspend relegation and play with the extra team next year.

And If the PL goes ahead then I'm sure the Championship will do as well. It's going to be very harsh if they void that league and deny Leeds the chance to finally get back into the PL after all those years.

Quote from: cryptofrka on May 19, 2020, 10:38:55 AM

It is possible we will have to wait a bit longer for the Premier league to return. 6 players/staff have tested positive for Covid-19.

No names/clubs were mentioned and these players (or staff personnel) will have to go to quarantine for 7 days.

They did 748 tests, so less than 1% tested positive.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52726278

People are bound to test positive, but that's why they do the tests so they don't spread it so people testing positive is unlikely to halt things.

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Quote from: examplens on May 19, 2020, 12:16:53 PM

I read in the local newspaper, LFP France league 1, considering continuing the season through 3rd August, which is the last day for the end of all leagues. IDK is it true, or just speculation. Still, I think, PL is much more serious and much more money is there. they can't just let the season end. Bundes league just restarted, I guess they will follow how it's going on and use the same model.

Strange. I can't find more details about it, only found some French articles :/. But it would be really strange to continue season after it was already ended and PSG were crowned.
Bundesliga now is good example for other major leagues. EPL and other leagues simply can't afford to cancel season and lose so much money. No doubts that French or Eredivisie would continue if not their governments.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 19, 2020, 10:38:55 AM

It is possible we will have to wait a bit longer for the Premier league to return. 6 players/staff have tested positive for Covid-19.

No names/clubs were mentioned and these players (or staff personnel) will have to go to quarantine for 7 days.

They did 748 tests, so less than 1% tested positive.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52726278

Pretty sure it’ll be like any other industry, the sick stay home & away from the healthy. PL football is probably one of the safest industries to work in atm, they get tested twice a week now.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 19, 2020, 11:18:03 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on May 18, 2020, 02:20:08 PM

While EPL clubs are allowed to return to training, Scottish Premiership ended season and announced Celtic as champions - they were ahead Rangers by 13 points.
BTW, is it there any news when they are planning to continue Championship season? I only remember reading that all leagues bellow League Two were cancelled without any promotion/relegation between divisions.

Good question. Maybe the FA should at least cancel some of the lower leagues and totally focus on what to do with the EPL.

I read in the local newspaper, LFP France league 1, considering continuing the season through 3rd August, which is the last day for the end of all leagues. IDK is it true, or just speculation. Still, I think, PL is much more serious and much more money is there. they can't just let the season end. Bundes league just restarted, I guess they will follow how it's going on and use the same model.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 18, 2020, 02:20:08 PM

While EPL clubs are allowed to return to training, Scottish Premiership ended season and announced Celtic as champions - they were ahead Rangers by 13 points.
BTW, is it there any news when they are planning to continue Championship season? I only remember reading that all leagues bellow League Two were cancelled without any promotion/relegation between divisions.

Good question. Maybe the FA should at least cancel some of the lower leagues and totally focus on what to do with the EPL.

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It is possible we will have to wait a bit longer for the Premier league to return. 6 players/staff have tested positive for Covid-19.

No names/clubs were mentioned and these players (or staff personnel) will have to go to quarantine for 7 days.

They did 748 tests, so less than 1% tested positive.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52726278

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