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I wonder if the FA will change things because of this. Maybe start fining managers who don't turn up or purposely field weak teams.
I'm ok with managers using weak teams, i mean, they can do whataver they want with the squad, there are no rules in football that state that teams have to field their best starting XI (there aren't, right? lol).

The question is, why wouldn't you want to field your best possible team? Teams should be trying to win all possible games and cups. Sure, sometimes players need or could do with a rest, but I doubt the fans like it when they pay good money to see b-teams or the under 21s and if they wanted to see those games then they can watch the under 21s or b-team friendlies. I'm pretty sure Klopp wouldn't be able to field a team of youngsters in the Premier League if they're not named in his squad at the beginning of the season. They could and maybe should do something similar for the cups if it starts to become a joke.

But the main coach not showing up to an official game? That's just surreal. I don't think i've seen a manager doing something like that ever (there have been exceptions though like sick leave or a family emergency). But I guess he's just following what the FA said about team's taking a small break.

Being ill or having some personal issues is understandable, but I think just not showing up is going to set a bad standard. Maybe if it's a protest then the FA will listen and start to make the schedules less hectic so cup games can be played with a full squad without interfering with the PL and CL.
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But the main coach not showing up to an official game? That's just surreal. I don't think i've seen a manager doing something like that ever (there have been exceptions though like sick leave or a family emergency). But I guess he's just following what the FA said about team's taking a small break.

He has at least been open about it and told the truth while making a point about congested schedule. I am sure Liverpool doctors could have written him an excuse note if he wanted it that way.
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To be honest, I thought there was some international games on as well.
Took me a while but i found the reason behind the strange fixtures: https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3374502/premier-league-winter-break-how-will-it-work-and-when-will-it-be

TL;DR: there'll be a two week break for all teams. Half of the teams are already on vacation (the ones not playing this weekend), while the other half will go on vacation after the games this week.

I wonder if the FA will change things because of this. Maybe start fining managers who don't turn up or purposely field weak teams.
I'm ok with managers using weak teams, i mean, they can do whataver they want with the squad, there are no rules in football that state that teams have to field their best starting XI (there aren't, right? lol).

But the main coach not showing up to an official game? That's just surreal. I don't think i've seen a manager doing something like that ever (there have been exceptions though like sick leave or a family emergency). But I guess he's just following what the FA said about team's taking a small break.
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But If you have a lady with you then its very hard because she need many things which possible just because of monthly salary  Huh Roll Eyes

Hahah, I guess we will see if she loves me for real now Grin
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I managed to watch the game, there were some streams. The kids played great, VAR call was good but the goal was again disallowed because of a pass that happened 10 seconds before Shrewsbury's goal.

I bet heavily on Shrewsbury, really did not expect our kids to physically be ready for 90 minutes. I wanted to cash out the second I saw Shrewsbury score but VAR screwed me over.

Fuck it, I'm sure a man can live on 11 monthly salaries as well Grin
But If you have a lady with you then its very hard because she need many things which possible just because of monthly salary  Huh Roll Eyes
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I managed to watch the game, there were some streams. The kids played great, VAR call was good but the goal was again disallowed because of a pass that happened 10 seconds before Shrewsbury's goal.

I bet heavily on Shrewsbury, really did not expect our kids to physically be ready for 90 minutes. I wanted to cash out the second I saw Shrewsbury score but VAR screwed me over.

Fuck it, I'm sure a man can live on 11 monthly salaries as well Grin
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Has anyone seen the next round of fixtures? They're split over the 8th to 17th but it's another round of nightmare games to pick in my opinion:
Do you know why they're doing this? I thought there was an international break or something, but it looks like it's only the EPL doing this. Does the FA want to give a few teams a bit of a break? Did I miss something in the news?  Cheesy

To be honest, I thought there was some international games on as well.


Edit:  And VAR out...  IMHO.
As much as the EPL generates tons and tons of money every year, the implemantion of VAR (from what i've read) was pricey, so i hardly doubt they're gonna get rid of it, if anything they'll try to improve how it's being used by the refs.

I'm sure they'll save a lot getting rid of it as well. There's a whole load of people they need to employ to not only monitor it but keep it running. I don't think they will or should get rid of it but it needs tweaking and improving or they need to change the rules regarding certain things (hand balls and offside for example).


Ah, thisisanfield update:
"Unfortunately, it appears as though the FA have pulled all broadcast options due to Klopp’s decision to miss the game, which is not only a detriment to fans, but also Shrewsbury and the competition in general."

Did Klopp ever further comment on this? I think it's a shame he didn't turn up or put a stronger team out. I wonder if the FA will change things because of this. Maybe start fining managers who don't turn up or purposely field weak teams. It sets a bad standard and I think if they allow it it will happen more and more with the big teams. Could even allow match fixing to creep in at some point. Any team could just field a squad of youngsters and let them get pummeled.

The more I thought about it, the more I think he made the right call. FA made all the EPL teams promise not to play any games in this trial winter break. So Klopp kept his promise. And he and others like Pep have been frequently vocal about players playing too much. I remember the injuries we had to deal with 2 seasons ago. So the first chance he gets to protect his players, he does.

They should have pushed for a rescheduling and then refused to play or something if not. I guess I only hope this causes the FA to think about how they schedule games and to give teams ample time. I think it's going to be a real shame if the cups start to become friendlies for big teams to try out their youngsters.
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So, I had to watch Oxford Newcastle game because strangely none of my IPTV channels didn't show Liverpool game strangely. I can comment about game only looking at stats - seems that LFC even with youth squad dominated, though one Shrewsbury goal was cancelked after VAR review.
Still, I don't like this Klopp decision. Case with EFL Cup - it was understandable. But this, I don't know.
BTW, Oxford - Newcastle was really good game to watch with some drama.

Yeah, I just posted above. FA decided to punish Liverpool by not televising the game anywhere. Seems like every other channel I tried to look at streamed Newcastle instead, Dazn, Bein, even Ziggo.

That VAR wouldn't have happened if we played AT Shrewsbury (no VAR installed there) so yay.

And we got through anyway, and Klopp's decision vindicated when we risked no injuries and gave the senior players the rest they were promised.

The more I thought about it, the more I think he made the right call. FA made all the EPL teams promise not to play any games in this trial winter break. So Klopp kept his promise. And he and others like Pep have been frequently vocal about players playing too much. I remember the injuries we had to deal with 2 seasons ago. So the first chance he gets to protect his players, he does.

This article is a throwback but also reminds us Klopp isn't the first Liverpool manager to do this. The rare outing for the youth squad in a senior game brought Paisley to the fore. Maybe one day we get Critchley in the sun and it'll have its roots in this season.

Maybe all this is by design...
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So, I had to watch Oxford Newcastle game because strangely none of my IPTV channels didn't show Liverpool game strangely. I can comment about game only looking at stats - seems that LFC even with youth squad dominated, though one Shrewsbury goal was cancelked after VAR review.
Still, I don't like this Klopp decision. Case with EFL Cup - it was understandable. But this, I don't know.
BTW, Oxford - Newcastle was really good game to watch with some drama.
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@hilarious ugh I know, even betting odds seem almost like a replica of this week's bookies can't decide who to favour so they're going with margins.

@toma: Actually it's the "winter" break that the English FA are trying out for the first time. It's a weird sort of implementation split between the EPL teams so more like one half get a week and the other get the second week. It's just them trying to follow Germany or others to have a break for players, where they're not allowed to play even friendlies.

P.S. LFCTV featuring Jay Spearing. Was it you LFC_Bitcoin who reminisced? Haha.

Ah, thisisanfield update:
"Unfortunately, it appears as though the FA have pulled all broadcast options due to Klopp’s decision to miss the game, which is not only a detriment to fans, but also Shrewsbury and the competition in general."
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Has anyone seen the next round of fixtures? They're split over the 8th to 17th but it's another round of nightmare games to pick in my opinion:
Do you know why they're doing this? I thought there was an international break or something, but it looks like it's only the EPL doing this. Does the FA want to give a few teams a bit of a break? Did I miss something in the news?  Cheesy

Edit:  And VAR out...  IMHO.
As much as the EPL generates tons and tons of money every year, the implemantion of VAR (from what i've read) was pricey, so i hardly doubt they're gonna get rid of it, if anything they'll try to improve how it's being used by the refs.
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I am not in the mod to think about next round. I don't even have the courage to look at the table.

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my picks: 2 / 10 20%
Community Avg. 3.33 / 10 33%

You did worse than the community average

Lol. why? You're still in third place and only moved down one place after that round. I only got 2.5 points more than you last week.

You're not trying to manipulate us to make the wrong picks are you?  Lolol.  j/k.  Grin

Lol. Nah. It's me who usually goes with the wrong picks. I think I'll have to stop going with draws for more than a few games as they're costing me too many points.

How about that Sterling late tackle on Dele Alli that got only a yellow.  Meh.

I've seen them given and it looked worse on the replays but it wasn't intentional. Dele Ali got to it first and his foot knocked the ball away and therefore Sterling missed it but he couldn't really pull out as he was committed. Personally I think the yellow was fair and a red would have been harsh imo but I can see why people think it should have been a red.

Edit:  And VAR out...  IMHO.

I don't think they should get rid of it completely but they need to change how it works. You absolutely cannot let the game continue on for multiple minutes just to pull something back. The VAR in the City game was the correct decision but don't let them play on. As I've said before, don't check everything and give the team three appeals each. If they want to appeal then the game is stopped to check.
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Has anyone seen the next round of fixtures? They're split over the 8th to 17th but it's another round of nightmare games to pick in my opinion:

Everton v Crystal Palace
Brighton v Watford
Sheffield United v Bournemouth
Manchester City v West Ham United
Wolverhampton v Leicester City
Southampton v Burnley
Norwich City v Liverpool
Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal v Newcastle United
Chelsea v Manchester United


A lot of bang average teams are playing each other and lots that are going to be hard to split. Man City are probably the only team playing at home I'd back straight away. Liverpool should win at Norwich but I'm just waiting for the week they take their foot of the gas and slip up. Norwich are rock bottom of the table but they can easily get out of it.

You're not trying to manipulate us to make the wrong picks are you?  Lolol.  j/k.  Grin

How about that Sterling late tackle on Dele Alli that got only a yellow.  Meh.

Edit:  And VAR out...  IMHO.
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Has anyone seen the next round of fixtures? They're split over the 8th to 17th but it's another round of nightmare games to pick in my opinion:

Everton v Crystal Palace
Brighton v Watford
Sheffield United v Bournemouth
Manchester City v West Ham United
Wolverhampton v Leicester City
Southampton v Burnley
Norwich City v Liverpool
Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal v Newcastle United
Chelsea v Manchester United


I am not in the mod to think about next round. I don't even have the courage to look at the table.

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my picks: 2 / 10 20%
Community Avg. 3.33 / 10 33%

You did worse than the community average
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Has anyone seen the next round of fixtures? They're split over the 8th to 17th but it's another round of nightmare games to pick in my opinion:

Everton v Crystal Palace
Brighton v Watford
Sheffield United v Bournemouth
Manchester City v West Ham United
Wolverhampton v Leicester City
Southampton v Burnley
Norwich City v Liverpool
Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal v Newcastle United
Chelsea v Manchester United


A lot of bang average teams are playing each other and lots that are going to be hard to split. Man City are probably the only team playing at home I'd back straight away. Liverpool should win at Norwich but I'm just waiting for the week they take their foot of the gas and slip up. Norwich are rock bottom of the table but they can easily get out of it.

The other bet was Tottenham to get over 2.5 corners when they already had one corner awarded in the first half. In the whole 2nd half they were able to manage to get only one corner. What a waste of money.

Corners are a weird one. Sometimes there's loads and in other games hardly any at all. I used to put bets on like the enhanced accumulator offers of things like both teams to score, each team 2 corners in each half and each team a 2 cards each or something and it was always the corners that let me down.

I saw interesting fact somewhere in social media. If Liverpool will win 6 upcoming games (Norwich, West Ham, Watford, Bournemouth, Everton and Crystal Palace), they wil become EPL champions before April. Yes, you heard it right, before April! And guess who would have to honor new EPL champions in the next game? Offcourse it will be Man City Cheesy

Interesting. Will that be a record? I wonder what Klopp will do if it's in the bag so early? Will he field a weaker team yo give them games or keep going for the points record. Maybe he won't even turn up like in the cup haha.
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I saw interesting fact somewhere in social media. If Liverpool will win 6 upcoming games (Norwich, West Ham, Watford, Bournemouth, Everton and Crystal Palace), they wil become EPL champions before April. Yes, you heard it right, before April! And guess who would have to honor new EPL champions in the next game? Offcourse it will be Man City Cheesy

That's assuming of course that CITY will win all their games;)

Every additional loss they experience from here onward is 1 fewer game we have to win =p I know, I know, us winning our next 6 games is still a task in itself but if you look at City's next 6, they still have to play Leicester, United (whom they've already lost to twice this season!) and Chelsea...

All due respect to City, and to the teams we're facing, but I see City losing at least 1 of those games.

It would be so sweet to win it at Everton too, though, imagine the uproar!
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I saw interesting fact somewhere in social media. If Liverpool will win 6 upcoming games (Norwich, West Ham, Watford, Bournemouth, Everton and Crystal Palace), they wil become EPL champions before April. Yes, you heard it right, before April! And guess who would have to honor new EPL champions in the next game? Offcourse it will be Man City Cheesy
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I just noticed that @Hhampuz didn't submit a scoreline for the Spurs vs City, meaning that even with just 1.5 points so far, i will not win the wooden spoon this week *phew*  Smiley

Man these last three weeks have been brutal.. I've been raking in like 1.5, 4, 1 points IN A COMPLETE ROUND.

Yuk, just about given up too.
That sucks..But you're just 15 pts behind the top 10 and just 25 pts from the top 5, IMO that's nothing...Like @hilariousetc, a couple of good rounds and all of a sudden you're fighting for the main prizes.
I almost gave up too a couple of months ago. I was in the bottom half of the leaderboard (23rd or something), but then i won two yellow caps in like two weeks and with that i was back in the race for a spot in the top 5.

There's still 13 rounds left, it's way too early to give up (:

Shall I call it my bad luck. It does not matter what I pick in City, Tottenham, Arsenal, Watford, Chelsea match; I lose the bets.
If it makes you any feel better, i've lost all of my bets this weekend (bunch of draws everywhere! EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A) :S
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buwaytress, you got it. 3 full points for you.

Suck City was not even able to score a single goal.

After the first half I had two bets. First one was attempted to bet for City to win but for some reason I thought it will be too risky so why not pick City to score over 0.5 goal. So I had City to score over 0.5 goals. When Tottenham scored I felt lucky for not betting for City to win but still I was expecting for them to score at least a goal. After the 2nd goal by Tottenham, I was still hopeful for City to score but damn it. Nothing from City!

The other bet was Tottenham to get over 2.5 corners when they already had one corner awarded in the first half. In the whole 2nd half they were able to manage to get only one corner. What a waste of money.

Shall I call it my bad luck. It does not matter what I pick in City, Tottenham, Arsenal, Watford, Chelsea match; I lose the bets.

Feeling annoyed!
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Spurs are 2-0 up with minutes to go so I don't think I'm going to get the draw on this one. Five minutes injury time left now. Only sojourner backed the Spurs win and he's currently got the score right.

Most of peoples fail to have good points in this round many strange result
It was a strange Matchweek, half the games ended in a draw...And it's 0-0 at the Spurs Stadium fow now :/

I just noticed that @Hhampuz didn't submit a scoreline for the Spurs vs City, meaning that even with just 1.5 points so far, i will not win the wooden spoon this week *phew*  Smiley

Well it depends. You get a handful of deferred picks if you miss games where they put a score in for you. If that's the case you could end up losing still. I remember one round where someone got more points than me all from deferred picks lol. That's really rubbing salt in the wounds. Hhampuz might not have any left though.

I just noticed that @Hhampuz didn't submit a scoreline for the Spurs vs City, meaning that even with just 1.5 points so far, i will not win the wooden spoon this week *phew*  Smiley

Man these last three weeks have been brutal.. I've been raking in like 1.5, 4, 1 points IN A COMPLETE ROUND.

Yuk, just about given up too.

We all have bad rounds. I've had a couple of next-to-no points and got the wooden spoon recently. Just part of the game. You can still play for consolation prize spots as well. A good run of form can also really send you up the table especially if others have a bad run.
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