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whoa, we got point deduction reduction to 6 points
not much, but it looks great, since that puts us above relegation line for 5 points

expected to get at least one point reduced, but ended up with 4, just enough to forget late equilazer by Brigthon on Saturday
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We're embarrassing piece of shit, can't even win against Liverpool generated AI players without names. ffs.

Guilty as charge!

Despite your team tryna use your billions to rob them of a very legal and valid goal (please don't insert some china wall of BS text of flimsy excuse as to why the goal is correctly disallowed).

Secondly, Endo obstructing?? There is no obvious error for VAR yet they meddled. This was again a case of referee making up for the earlier VAR mistake.

I don't get you, are you that was the right call ? Endo wasn't obstructing no one, all Endo did in literal terms was stood his ground in a position he had already established, If Colwill wanted to make a play on the ball does have to go through Endo with the field that wide ? he could gone left or right ways but he chose to pass through Endo, was Endo supposed to disappear from a position he his simply because an opponent is coming his way ?
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I seem to remember a season when Liverpool were playing something like 30 different defence pairings in premier league, during the time Van Dijk was injured. If I'm not wrong, this was that season, I even forgot you guys had Lovren, wondering why he was sold with so many injury prone people.

Yup, it's that season. Lovren was sold at the beginning of the season, and we decided to risk it because Fabinho could cover.
Then Fabinho got injured and Hendo covered, then Hendo got injured.

It was a horrible season injury-wise, I still can't believe we finished 3rd.
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I saw the highlights and VAR for BOTH goals were wrong. First of all, I thought that 2mm offside is no longer VAR territory I mean wtf I thought Premier League gave up on tiny offside VARs?

Secondly, Endo obstructing?? There is no obvious error for VAR yet they meddled. This was again a case of referee making up for the earlier VAR mistake.

The fact is though that Liverpool's net spend is quite low - and that's because Klopp can make an average player look good.

In 2020-21 season he secured CL qualification playing without any senior defenders for most of the season. Just look at these numbers:

VVD - 33 games out
Gomez - 31 games out
Matip - 28 games out
Lovren - sold, wasn't replaced

The CB's with most games played in the PL that season were Nat Phillips (17 starts), Matip (10 starts), Rhys Williams (9 starts) and Ozan Kabak (9 starts). 3 of those are Championship standard at best.

I seem to remember a season when Liverpool were playing something like 30 different defence pairings in premier league, during the time Van Dijk was injured. If I'm not wrong, this was that season, I even forgot you guys had Lovren, wondering why he was sold with so many injury prone people.

As a neutral, I think Klopp is the best manager of man management. It used to be Mourinho, and to certain degree he did that with Roma. But Klopp is the epitome of 1+1 = more than 2. He squeezes out more than other managers can just by his own spirit which he copies into the team.

Look at Premier League midfield now and Liverpool has second best after Arsenal. But they are doing it with average players like Elliot and that other young guy plus Endo and Garvenburch. These guys are supposedly not elite but they can make City and Chelsea stars look so average.

Bielsa does the same, but only for physical energy, and he doesn't know how to squeeze energy back in.
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That was a clear offside from Endo- he obstructed movement, no way VVD was getting close to that. VAR embarrassing picture angle from that Chelsea goal.
That is VanDijk's ball everyday of the week. The Chelsea player that Endo was adjudged to be obstructing was not veb trying to get around him, zero desire to get to the ball, when you compare that with how determined VVD was, he doesn't get close to him at all. It was a ridiculous call which shows the inconsistencies of VAR again. I thought they only called the ref over for "clear and obvious" errors?

For the offside, it's about time the FA moves to semi automated offside decisions.

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This is really a disgrace. English referees are the worst ones in the world.

First of all, I don't understand how the Chelsea goal was disallowed. You simply can't see from this angle, let alone draw the lines.
They probably couldn't tell, so they followed the linesman's initial call, which was offside.
Considering how close the call was and the recommendation that the referees allow the play to go on in case of uncertainty, I really don't know why he even flagged it.

After that we have a perfectly good VVD goal, that 'block' is simply ridiculous. If it's compensation, it's a stupid one.

Ultimately, I'm really proud of the team and how we performed. We had 5 kids on the pitch, Chelsea should have put this to bed comfortably in the extra time and have only themselves to blame.
They were horrible, couldn't get 3 passes in succession.

Something funny for the end:
Jayden Danns has more trophies in his second professional game than Harry Kane in his whole career.
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I mean, that's a clear offside even from the image you shared  Grin

I guess he'd have nothing to say about Van Dijk's disallowed goal, The Chelsea players indeed knew it was clearly offside and didn't need VAR intervention to make the call initially, but what's wrong with Liverpool's goal, Endo standing his ground and not moving at all need to be punished was he supposed to disappear because was trying to run through him ? BS!!!

That was a clear offside from Endo- he obstructed movement, no way VVD was getting close to that. VAR embarrassing picture angle from that Chelsea goal.

We're embarrassing piece of shit, can't even win against Liverpool generated AI players without names. ffs.
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I mean, that's a clear offside even from the image you shared  Grin

I guess he'd have nothing to say about Van Dijk's disallowed goal, The Chelsea players indeed knew it was clearly offside and didn't need VAR intervention to make the call initially, but what's wrong with Liverpool's goal, Endo standing his ground and not moving at all need to be punished was he supposed to disappear because was trying to run through him ? BS!!!
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Meh.
I mean, that's a clear offside even from the image you shared  Grin
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Arsenal beating us soundly was no fluke. Arteta's the best manager in the league right now, versus the resources he has, and what he's had to deal with coming in. You usually have to fight extra hard after such a slip in the league (last season). They're back. So now let us Liverpool not disappoint.

Ready for the match, Igebotz? Stop fixating on us and Klopp, we're already inside Poch's head, inside Pep's, no need to be inside Ige's Wink I'm just about sitting down, will probably have many interruptions, unfortunately. And I need to reply on BSFL... I see my name pinged multiple times...

Yeah, another Klopp overachievement incoming.... Another Var robbery added to the gallery. We know how this will end now. TV off.

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Arsenal beating us soundly was no fluke. Arteta's the best manager in the league right now, versus the resources he has, and what he's had to deal with coming in. You usually have to fight extra hard after such a slip in the league (last season). They're back. So now let us Liverpool not disappoint.

Ready for the match, Igebotz? Stop fixating on us and Klopp, we're already inside Poch's head, inside Pep's, no need to be inside Ige's Wink I'm just about sitting down, will probably have many interruptions, unfortunately. And I need to reply on BSFL... I see my name pinged multiple times...
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Not every club, like Liverpool, understands how to discard unwanted players in order to increase net spend, but you can't deny that he employed/signed players worth £807m and won only three domestic titles. Stop bringing net spend into the argument; that is a club internal matter that has nothing or less to do with the manager

Klopp has full support; he signed the most expensive defence in 2018, and his attacker Nunez is presently the most expensive striker in the league. You keep making it look like he has nothing. We all love him but you're only making him look bad.

Yeah, we did sell well - that much we can agree on.
I never said he has nothing, we have a really good team and finally there was decent support for the manager. The fact is though that Liverpool's net spend is quite low - and that's because Klopp can make an average player look good.

Yeah, but I believe the most of the players Liverpool sold for a good profit were old players he met who all departed during the squad overhaul time; I cannot say Klopp played a significant role in their development; these were individuals he didn't want or who left for a new challenge. But we can agree and disagree and that's why makes football beautiful.


If Chelsea wins the league cup and finishes 9th, while Arsenal finishes 2nd without a trophy, who had the best season?
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Damn Arsenal!

Scoring 4 or 5 or 6 goals every game, this is not even the Wenger Arsenal and they are just all over. Now nobody ever mentions they need a proper striker, even their main one is injured and forgotten.

And it's not bad opponents too, Newcastle, Liverpool.

City struggled with two back to back 1-0 wins. But usually Champions are the ones who win when they can't play well they say!!

Arsenal is impressing everyone and that is correct,I assume that lost game in Champions is because they are absolutely sure they can crush anyone in their return leg when they will be playing in London.On the Premier League side scoring 4 goals against a team like Newcastle is something not many teams can do and this shows that Arsenal is playing extremely well,the Premier League is more open than ever now as there are three teams with just 2 points difference between each other and not many weeks are left until the end of the season.I am sure if we play these three teams in parlay ticket every week,the lost tickets will be rare.
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Not every club, like Liverpool, understands how to discard unwanted players in order to increase net spend, but you can't deny that he employed/signed players worth £807m and won only three domestic titles. Stop bringing net spend into the argument; that is a club internal matter that has nothing or less to do with the manager

Klopp has full support; he signed the most expensive defence in 2018, and his attacker Nunez is presently the most expensive striker in the league. You keep making it look like he has nothing. We all love him but you're only making him look bad.

Yeah, we did sell well - that much we can agree on.
I never said he has nothing, we have a really good team and finally there was decent support for the manager. The fact is though that Liverpool's net spend is quite low - and that's because Klopp can make an average player look good.

In 2020-21 season he secured CL qualification playing without any senior defenders for most of the season. Just look at these numbers:

VVD - 33 games out
Gomez - 31 games out
Matip - 28 games out
Lovren - sold, wasn't replaced

The CB's with most games played in the PL that season were Nat Phillips (17 starts), Matip (10 starts), Rhys Williams (9 starts) and Ozan Kabak (9 starts). 3 of those are Championship standard at best.
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Damn Arsenal!

Scoring 4 or 5 or 6 goals every game, this is not even the Wenger Arsenal and they are just all over. Now nobody ever mentions they need a proper striker, even their main one is injured and forgotten.

And it's not bad opponents too, Newcastle, Liverpool.

City struggled with two back to back 1-0 wins. But usually Champions are the ones who win when they can't play well they say!!
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Another five star performance from the goonerz and another high scoring result for us which takes us again to the top of the goal difference chart. Really wanted another clean sheet but still a brilliant play all round from all the boys.

For all the talk around Karius before the match, he managed to be one of their best players on the pitch.

What happened to Newcastle United with all of their money? They're battling with squad depth and spent the entire January transfer window fighting to keep Trippier from Bayern Munich without adding anyone to the squad to help with all of the injuries. I was expecting a major rebuild along the way.


Klopp is playing mind games with D. Nunez and Salah fitness. Reminds me so much of Mourinho. Lol
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Another five star performance from the goonerz and another high scoring result for us which takes us again to the top of the goal difference chart. Really wanted another clean sheet but still a brilliant play all round from all the boys.

For all the talk around Karius before the match, he managed to be one of their best players on the pitch.

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Are you on drugs, man?
The only relevant metric is net spend. Below is a sum for all years since Klopp is at Liverpool.
Club net spend
Liverpool   £254m
If this is not overachieving, I don't know what is.

Not every club, like Liverpool, understands how to discard unwanted players in order to increase net spend, but you can't deny that he employed/signed players worth £807m and won only three domestic titles. Stop bringing net spend into the argument; that is a club internal matter that has nothing or less to do with the manager

Klopp has full support; he signed the most expensive defence in 2018, and his attacker Nunez is presently the most expensive striker in the league. You keep making it look like he has nothing. We all love him but you're only making him look bad.
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Winning 1 EPL title and 2 domestic cups in eight years after spending almost as much as Pep did is not overachieving; you're only exaggerating because Liverpool were irrelevant for far too long before Klopp. Nobody is denying that he did well at Liverpool; he won everything; yet, using the term "overachieved" to describe someone who won only one league trophy in eight years is absurd.

I am not going to talk about Euro trophies because Tuchel won them all in less than 18 months. Facts only.

Are you on drugs, man?
The only relevant metric is net spend. Below is a sum for all years since Klopp is at Liverpool.

Club net spend
Liverpool   £254m
Man City   £692.3m
Man United   £888m
Chelsea   £835.7m
Arsenal   £696.2m
Tottenham   £484m

If this is not overachieving, I don't know what is.
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Arsene Wenger was only stringy, the club was not broke or anything; he was fully supported but preferred spending on some random kids from the French league for cheap. I recall Arsenal fans carrying banners calling him "a stringy coach"; the money was there, but he had no idea how to spend it.

Why are you continuously dragging Klopp into financial discussions? He bought Nunez for €100m and nearly bought Caicedo for €115m last summer. Klopp gets what he wants; the only difference between him and Pep is that players often reject his project (Caicedo).

Fans are mostly idiots who don't actually follow what's happening. Arsenal was working on a really tight budget at the time and it's not even an opinion - it's a fact.

Most managers in top clubs buy good players. If you think Klopp didn't overachieve with Liverpool (and Dortmund), I really don't know how to continue the conversation Grin

Winning 1 EPL title and 2 domestic cups in eight years after spending almost as much as Pep did is not overachieving; you're only exaggerating because Liverpool were irrelevant for far too long before Klopp. Nobody is denying that he did well at Liverpool; he won everything; yet, using the term "overachieved" to describe someone who won only one league trophy in eight years is absurd.

I am not going to talk about Euro trophies because Tuchel won them all in less than 18 months. Facts only.
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