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Understood.    I didn't know how the system worked exactly in this kind of situations. Thank you for your detailed explanation. Of course it looks like this incident happened in a really unexpected time that it made people wonder what was going to happen after this.

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I liked the VAR system. It would be really great for some unexpected cases as well to change our picks according to that. In the end sometimes one can make their picks without looking at the latest news and this can even lead them to be disadvantageous already.

I changed my initial prediction from group leader to runner-up because the Netherlands scored the 1-1 shortly before half-time and I thought that that goal will break Georgia's neck and the Netherlands were overwhelming them all the time. Even before the game started I wanted to go with Georgia finishing the group 1st. Therefore, waiting turned out to become a disadvantage for me

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I think we can put this discussion to an end with the VAR rules now being implemented. As I said before, the development of those questions never have been taken lightly at any point. It is a lot of work and considering how much time I sometimes spend researching the questions, framing the questions is even worse.

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Being sour about it is neither productive nor constructive. Rather, suggestions for improvements as we are now doing it is helpful. That's how we should do it going forward and over time we'll get closer to perfection (although we'll never reach perfection).

Yup, everything's a draw with me and my opponent, so all remaining sports is not really impactful in any way.

Great news about VAR, personally, I don't really mind and would not use it except in emergencies like if I accidentally submitted or if I suddenly can't remember if I wrote correct.

I should point out that I drew this round because I knew about de Minaur when I submitted with 1 hour left I think my opponent was one of the earliest to submit and had no way to know about de Minaur dropping out. So kudos to you leea, you "could" have won this round with VAR intervention

We can't do anything about it. Questions are checked at Sunday when we post them. There is a lot of time until Tuesday deadline and stuff happens. We don't want to give shorter deadline to accommodate all time zones and we want to have tennis questions. Every single tennis tournament starts on Monday and that is the risk we must take when making tennis question. I checked the tournament in question and Alcaraz was 1.01 favorite to win that match against Marozsan so I really can't take the blame for including him in example as top seed.

We could write vanilla questions but that seems much more boring to me. That story we give in front of question is just that, a story that helps you see our mindset and some of the reasons why we included it in the form. All those tennis questions can be made just in a way "We have tournament in the Rome, name finalists and winner". And now you are giving us problems because we want to do more? Feel free to disregard the story part of every question, only the question itself is important when answering and I already told that at least twice here in the thread. We double and triple check the questions itself but story part I am writing from my head and could have misleading stuff in it. It doesn't usually, but it could, especially by the time of deadline. Don't know how my colleague does it

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Georgia game was scheduled to be played at 19h, we both checked it on Sunday and then both livescore and bookies got new info later on and game was played at 14h. That is something we did not expect to happen even in the wildest dreams. But we were lucky in the end and that early start gave no real advantage. Both games were draws at halftime and Netherlands was a better team in first half just like the odds suggested. I believe anybody who answered at the halftime had the same dilemma as those that answered early. For instance I answered early and was happy that I did not have to do it at this point.

Wait, I checked the spreadsheet and noticed that you still have a chance at taking a point since we have different answers in the last three questions. 

You already got one down from the Copa Libertadores question, and I might actually throw my lead. 

Man oh man, Boca Jr's got me nervous with that red card but followed up with a goal. And then another goal 2nd half looking good for that Question.

Edit: Lets go green box Boca scored again and again.

Thank you.
I think that lose from Trofo in last round ruined my mojo, so I need a win asap

This is a cool idea but I think it would be much faster for everyone if you could simply enable access to spreadsheet to people who request it, and after user editing you can lock it again.
I dont know f it is possible to unlock spreadsheet only for individual members, while keeping them locked for everyone else.

The Georgia question and tennis questions gave unfair advantage to those who waited a bit longer before putting in their answers, I still believe that the tennis question should have been voided since the Cro2 team knew Alex didn't even travel to the tournament before putting up their answers and since it was only two options question but that's by the way.


Nope, Alcaraz was already out of the competition when the spreadsheet was opened, and there was no reason for him to be included in that question; he is a top seeded player, and non-tennis fans were bound to pick him as favourite without doing any research. Many of us fell for it, and when I noticed it, I raised a flag, and my opponent was also unhappy with how the question was framed.

I still insist that questions should be double checked before letting out, most is of us are new to many sports here and those little tricks mess with our research.

Ah, the sport-lovers league, where the questions are challenging and the ailments are many! Although even I have my limitations, I'm ready to delve into the field of sports expertise. Consequently, let's see what type of curveball you have in store for me.

Just be aware that I may need to contact my virtual physiotherapist for assistance if you assign me a player who is prone to injuries. We must patch up such information gaps and dispel any lingering concerns. Even though I have a lot of knowledge, I can't seem to get the hang of predicting the future!

Man you guys, so quick. VAR. Love it. Don't worry if implementation is shit, experimentation tends to be high on the shit count Though with your track record, I don't have any reason to think it will be.

The recap and update on Sportsbet. Love it even more (only read it today haha). I actually remembered to go on Clubhouse TV chat today but seems like there was no session -- maybe tomorrow?

About keeping updates and news secret? Now I even don't mind giving tips on the forum (like someone did with de Minaur) -- because I could also be naughty and give a bad tip. Hint, hint, watch out guys...


Ah, I already read them on my notification (I get PMs to my email also, the magic of tech!) so I didn't even open them on forum. I might have even avoided reading the email msg if you did have boobs... I got your sidebet money, don't worry it will be put to bad use.

Yeah, that's what I initially felt this was because there are some players that ones they are given options, they don't try to do any research hence giving their opponents an unfair advantage, that we all were against but for those that didn't both submit their picks, at least there is a player in this round that wrote just USA and Spain in the FIBA u19 question.

So, It would have been very fine with me if that was the case in this scenario, but that'd have meant you already knew he wasn't going to play hence making it unfair, but from the way the question was asked and I was sure that you guys had no idea De Minaur had withdrew even before question was posted here, so that's why it wasn't an issue with me at all, however, going forward including this type of question might to some players beat the idea of fairness because either of you who sets the specific question would have known the answer beforehand, so that's like being one question ahead already, which is why those type of questions might really not work, myself personally, is very much okay with such question since it's expected of every user to do their due diligence on each question, but then I'm not everybody, so I can only speak for myself.

What are you talking about?

question you mentioned is:

We did not give any players here, you just needed to choose finalists and winners. And both Djoko and Alcaraz that were used in example played in the tournament.

We can also make a trick question and intentionally give you a player that is likely to drop out due to injury. This is sports fanatics league and we expect you to know everything about every sport 

Void questions will only happen in situations when we screw up and don't cover all outcomes. We also added some rules in OP about the way we grade forfeits in particular sports. Stupid situations happen but with each season we will have more checks/rules to cover them.

All the questions are double checked. For this round - Georgia game was scheduled to be played at 9PM and De Minaur was still a 3rd seed when we released them.

We can make them bulletproof - by releasing them on Tuesday at 3PM.
The questions would be better as well - because we would not have to guess a lot of stuff that we do need to guess right now.

We went the other way just to give you more time, because we don't feel it's fair to you to have such a short window for answering. You're also playing from multiple time zones.

It's always a balance - both approaches create some problems. We feel this way is better and we'd rather have more players submitting and having some issues with the questions than no issues with questions but people feeling more pressured by the deadlines.

Well, personally I always follow what people write here in this thread. I have Telegram bot that notifies me about every post. And precisely that gave me the advantage in this round because someone here wrote that De Minaur will not participate in the tournament. So it was pretty easy to answer, but I still wasn't sure until Cerundolo won his first round.

That's my point because having made certain picks already and waiting until sometime early on Tuesday, it literally means we all aren't waiting for any further information that could influence our decisions.

So I'm not sure how that would affect me, because about the tennis issue, by the time I first opened the form and up until when I submitted pick he wasn't in the Bracket so, I just didn't know well enough that a player that isn't currently in the bracket is not participating in the tournament and the sites I quoted yesterday stated that he wouldn't start from the first round so I thought until is opponent was known, only then would he available in the bracket so that's on me and my knowledge of tennis, If I had waited for even one minute before deadline, I still wouldn't have come across his withdrawal information and it's most likely due to being an ATP 250 tour was why the news wasn't an easy reach as at Monday and very early Tuesday, because I did check more than 5 times. I'm just trying to reiterate that me choosing De Minaur was never a case of how early or late I submitted my picks, it's rather about how familiar I was with Tennis rules regarding player withdrawal, I've never witnessed a player withdrawing that early with almost zero information about it, or I sure do usually find them in the bracket with the withdrawal or walkover/retired status but now I've got a very clear knowledge of it, I'm very sure!, and the same can be said for people who have in the past picked players that were to meet in the QF or earlier as their semi finalist answers, while that could be seen as playing it safe to get at least one answer right if 2 highly ranked/seeded players fall in the same bracket category in early rounds, but what about someone picking players from different tournament last week ?

In essence, I like how much efforts the CRO2 team are putting into this competition, making it better by every opportunity that arrives, and I hope there wouldn't be any further complications caused by this implementation of VAR.

EDIT: And for a slight suggestion: At the end of the season if there are players that cannot be separated points, SD, SA, H2H and other criteria that are already defined, should the player with the less VAR used have the edge ?

You know what, you really have pretty bad wording right there. You might want to change that to I have a slight chance to get a draw against you with 2 remaining answers and I need both of them to hit but Draw is obviously not the result that I want to if I want to stay in this division next season  ( not that I know if we will have 3rd season after this )


Even if I lose this round, Im going to beat you up on our next one . I hate losing especially not to you mate

The VAR is not a bad thing; I just hope that if we find ourselves in similar situations like this in the future, the game will not be voided; there was a similar situation like that with question No. 10 in the first season, round 11, where a player who was already out of the tournament prior to when the question was made was added to the question, and that alone caused many non- tennis fans a point, and nothing was done about it.
 
It's not easy work at the backend, and we appreciate your efforts, but the questions should be double-checked before being released; there have already been too many promatic questions

buwatress, you're not opening my messages because I don't have any boobs?

With 2 remaining different answers between us, you still have a good chance to get draw result with me. I was expecting to win the question#3 because normally all team would play in all-out style in their last group game but yeah you managed to win that one. Cant wait to see the end of our "derby"

Same here I started to doing the questions on deadline day, straight from the gut as well. I don't like VAR in real life but to each their own, I hope everybody's second guessing causes you stress. Afterall we are all opponents until the round is done for said week. 

that is probably usual practice
me also doing that, but I don't open questionnaire until Tuesday morning, looking here on topic what are questions discussed, but usually don't open the form before that, and answer most from gut on Tuesday morning, leaving few questions for additional thoughts or new infos during Tuesday and send just before finishing work day

waiting for Boca Juniors, didn't expect Corinthians to win this easy, but overall but NO there due to odds being almost 5 on multi