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We hope that the VAR rule will help and mitigate most of the problematic choices.

As you can see, we try to implement some kind of change as soon as we see a problem, with some things we'll be spot on and some will be shit and will need to be changed.
In theory this looks like a really good solution so we hope you'll like it.

We'll see about the basketball. If you win that one, I think you will be the winner this week because you are already one point ahead of me. I hope I'll win that one and then everything will depend on the F1 on Sunday.

As for the new rules, I don't have anything against it. I think that it's not possible to allow some players (those who have not used their chances) to edit the form and not to allow others to edit it. Besides, it looks to me like more work for the Cro2 guys. They already have enough work so whatever is easier for them.

And no, you are not the only one who chooses his picks when opening the form for the first time and then change saved answers later. I do it too.

I actual feel confident of my FIBA U19 predictions at the worse we'll get a draw on that I believe, but the F1 is a game of fate for me, and maybe I might finally get to watch my first F1 race that I'll full attention to, that's provided there is no Tennis game I prefer already scheduled for the same time.

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About the news I don't think I can complain too much since a lot of players clamoured for it, so it's fine by me! A rule for one is a rule for all.

I hope there is a better solution like the form being editable until he deadline, but I don't know the possibility of that being feasible, and I agree this might be for the greater good, but I don't think I'm the only one who make some picks already after opening the form since progress are saved until I'm sure that I don't need to make any further changes before submitting.

Due to popular demand and some recent developments which penalized early submitters we have decided to introduce VAR. Basically a way for you to edit your answers 3 times per season. Since this season is already well under way, we are giving you 2 challenges for season 2.


VAR rules:
-  Can be used to change answers in any round before that round's deadline
-  Can be used 3 times per season (2 times for season 2)
-  Send us your desired changes over PM or write in the thread and tag both Trofo & Cryptofrka, this is up to your discretion. If you trust us, better use PM to not clog the thread and give possible info to others. If you are playing against us maybe it is better to post in thread to avoid possible frictions
-  After you spend your challenges don't come and ask for more, whatever happens there are no more changes left for you

As I have posted here before, I think a second hidden spreadsheet could do the job quite well. There is no need for Trofo and cryptofrka to prove any timely incoming PMs and it could just be made public like the official spreadsheet and everyone could have a look and we have perfect transparency. I would still stick to a certain number of jokers and not an unlimited number of changes because that could become wild and the goal still is to have people stick to the same deadline and do their analysis as thorough as their wish, but not at the cost of others. It also keeps the responsibility of gathering information with the participants and it solves the problem of the more lazy participants to just wait for requested changes to be posted publicly before the deadline and then make adjustments themselves.  

Happens to me too when I have different outcomes in BSFL and on my tickets.
For 100$ though, I guess I'd pick a winning ticket

Regarding Jokers - it isn't that much work to be honest. It can also help if you realize you submitted incomplete answers.
We'll think on how to implement it best and let you know, maybe even before the next round.

And precisely that decision gave you one point against me. I decided to give him a chance for one last time and he screwed me again. I hope I'll do better in the basketball u19 and F1 questions so I can claim my second win in the division 1.

I already said it on this thread over and over again, that I'm done with Tsitsipas until he gets back to the form that made and got him to number 5th in the world men tennis ranking.

Dude was top seeded so he got a pass in the round 32/ first round, but at the first opportunity he gets, he's out ?! what a clown man has become...

I hate you Fraaaancccee, I had selected 8 goals and under and according to the law of destiny, this should have been the correct outcome but French goals carried the whole average up and so now, it looks like I'm drawing with leea as that was the only answer left different in this round.

Another draw for me, but at least it is matched with 2 wins, so I don't feel so bad, in fact, I see many of you with points and I just have 2. I guess I should be lucky to get a draw from so few points.

Also, I hate you Tsitsipasssssss.

I knew Tsitsipas would let us down, but I still took him to win, as I thought this would be his road to recovery. Surprisingly, almost all the seeded players in that tournament are already eliminated.

I can relate to that, as i've gone through the same wave of reds when I faced leea last week. We had so many different answers, and that caused a quick ending.

Thanks, and hopefully, you can bounce back on the next round. 

Nothing worse than opening BSFL spreadsheet after few days and looking at sea of read in front of your usrname.
This are terrible results for me in this round and I have only one correct answer and I have no chance against my opponent
I expected better results but I am not going to blame anyone for my bad results.
Congratulations ralle14!

What a fast round for me!, well better to say, what a fast lose to me!, hahaha its im not counting bad, i already lose against jeremy, first time in my long carrer here i lose so early.

About Tsitipas....... i spend a lot of words on this"new generation" players..... all are shit in mental toughness, the only one who seems to be diferent its Alcaraz, the rest.... no words.

I actually really hate posting in the same thread back to back but the activity here requires it sometimes, and just to say, first time in my life I'm following U19 football minute by minute, so well done Cro2 for making me waste my evening on TEXT commentary football haha.

I was in a real bind here. France scored the 9th goal of the night with 10 minutes to go, which took me 1 point clear against vd309 as I selected "9 or 10 goals" ... on the other hand, I had a 10/1 acca that hit only if Italy won. But for them to have done that, they'd have needed to score 2 goals, taking my point away and giving this round's advantage to vd309 who picked 11+ goals for his question.

In the end, I actually feel much, much, happier to win this point, rather than the $100 I'd have won if Italy managed the comeback. See how much I prioritise this league?

Back to the Joker issue -- I want to clarify my view is that that it is a very minor thing, and we must see the cost-benefit. It would add complexity to Cro2's job, and while I personally enjoy the idea of them working hard every night to make us happy, I would rather seamless competition overall to sacrifice the small likelihood of the Joker being legitimately useful (you know, the way I prefer VAR to be gone and suffer the rare consequence rather than put up with VAR delays every game).

There isn't a good solution. We can't stop you from writing things in the thread like De Minaur situation in this round. If I was participant I wouldn't mention it before the deadline for example. If you guys send PMs there is no accountability. How can anybody check that we received a pm on time? Or how can we prove that somebody did not send pm when he claims he has?

In the end it all comes to commitment and fair play. We made penalties and rules in such ways that top players with utmost commitment will rise to the top and those that take it casually will drop to lower leagues. That will give us a couple of great leagues and lowest division just for fun. This season we did not have a single round where everybody posted answers on time, while we did not have anybody from firsts division miss the deadline. Numbers don't lie and I expect the divide to grow as seasons progress.

Every addition makes things much more complicated and has some negative effects as well. We will double check everything before committing to changes. There will always be players that want to game the system.

Im definitely not into this whole "Joker" thing but ill probably be in the minority as it goes. I like the competition the way it is doesn't matter what the sport is, if you got the wrong answer deal with it. Yes it stings when you're wrong but it'll force you to focus more on trusting your handicapping and research skills. But thats just my two cents. 

But one thing comes to my mind: to save jokers, someone could just wait and check the thread here if information was missed or not searched for that will then be revealed by someone else who uses a joker. Is it an issue? Maybe via PM is better? I still think that someone doing the research should have an edge over someone leaning back and wait maybe?

No need for quotes, you can see when the post has been edited and if it is it will not be accepted. If we implement it we will just change answers manually in the table and it will be up to the person that submitted change request to double check that we did not miss it. Post will always be available to reference since it must not be edited.

3 seems like good number for season when it starts but we will probably limit it on less if decide to implement it this season.

France - Madagascar was also kind a massacre - 119-56 or 63 points difference. But I really can't recall team scoring 20 points at such level. After all, this is World Championship and Lebanon isn't worst team in basketball. How bad you should be to score 20 points in whole game, I think the me with my friends wouldn't do much worse

It seems that after Tsitsipas started relationship with Badosa, his performance went down so much. Can't believe it's coincidense.

Don't know, I follow tennis with pleasure, though my knowledge doesn't helps much on BSFL. I often have turned on some tennis tournaments on TV in background during daytime when there nothing more doesn't happens. I even would like to see WTA tour questions sometimes. But I really hate esports and everything what is related with it - simply not my thing. And my answers to esports questions is more or less random - it's really difficult to make research when you don't undertand thing and have zero interest in it. But still, don't mind all these esports questions.

I like the idea as well and I think in order for Trofo and cryptofrka to have as less additional work to do as possible because of that solution, everyone should be bound to posting that change here publicly before the deadline. As long as the post arrives in this thread before the deadline and then gets quoted once by either Trofo or cryptofrka, it would count as accepted. The quote doesn't have to be before 19:00 forum time, but some time around that and I also think that there are enough active eyes here to ensure that no edits have been made anyway.

As for the number of jokers, I think I would vote for 2 despite the rounds being short. I wouldn't mind 3, but I think at least two because one can be spent whenever somebody wants and still has 1 in reserve for critical moments. It would be really bad if it happens twice and something is on the edge in the last two rounds and a loss is inbound due to such an issue.

what happened between Spain and Lebanon, had to check the score several times, it is 102:20
man, I didn't expect from anyone to play as that, even USA won over China some 20+ difference, not by 82

Tsitsipas just proved he is not anywhere close to being top player, one can have worse play on some surface, but he can't even win any match on grass, not being considered as title favorite
maybe we will see next round question about Tsitsi having first round drop-out at Wimbledon?