Topic: stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility - page 10. (Read 1875 times)

Once you do make out deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that its your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldnt take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
in regard with your own action not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and its on your self will do knows which one is bad and which one should be done.

It's not stake's fault when you lose a bet. It is entirely your fault. Maybe it was a bug since you didn't get ban from violating their rules or something like but a request made by you to self-excluded ban. Gambling sites are like that, when you ask them to ban temporary or permanent is you cannot deposit or withdraw on their site but in your case is you are able to deposit and bet. My guess is as stated above that it is bug/issue or you aren't ban yet.

Gambling addiction is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. It was a good thing that you advised the stake back then to have you self-excluded to avoid further damage on your mental health and overall well-being. Stake should be responsible and should be liable for their actions and lack thereof from what had happened. Because their staff told you you have been permanently banned already, but turns out it didn't happen and you still managed to enter, deposit, and play some games once more, which resulted in losing your money deposited. Actually, both of the parties had their fair shares of fault, hence, the best thing and justifiable thing that could happen between the two of you is to meet halfway. Because the moment you managed to logged in, you should have contacted their customer support and reported to them instead of depositing again.

I just hope next time the casinos would be more keen on their actions most especially if it involve gambling problems because players are the ones suffering from it. Although despite this, I also think that refunding just because you lost is unfair too because if it happens that you managed to deposit, play, and win, I doubt if you would ever surrender your prize and just volunteer to get your money back. Gambling is not a charity after all. It is also a business that needs to profit. Hence, refunding without undergoing the proper process would be a loss to them. Just try to reach them out once more and comply to what they will ask you. And then just meet halfway since both of you have your shortcomings.

It's not really the responsibility of the website to have that kind of thing, I mean what's going to change or what's the difference it's going to make if they have that, a gambling addict will always find a way to satisfy their thrills.

Stake failed on providing a service that they supposedly offer and that is a problem, but just as you say if we are honest about this if the OP did not lost that money at Stake they would have lost it in another casino anyway.

It is clear they have a problem and at least they have taken the first step to try to solve it, which is to recognize they have a problem, but now they need to take even more steps towards overcoming that addiction, because if they do not it something like this is going to keep happening to them.

You are miserable because you are out of control I doubt if you are not really playing even if you are granted exclusion by Stake.com, there are lots of online casinos here and I don't believe you only have Stake.com to play, compulsive gamblers have 2 to 5 casinos to play with and it's beyond logic to ask for a refund when you lose when you play and you lose fair no way you can ask for a refund, we can call this abuse.

I missed the part where it's a sites responsibility to keep you from gambling. Yes I know alot have self exclusion crap, but in the grand scheme of things it is on you to seek help if you have a problem.

Break your laptop, call a gambling hotline, get a date, or anything to get your mind off gambling.

Sorry to hear that you have made a loss and it hapened while you decided to stop gambling. But unfortunately, they have no self exclusion period for a long time. In this case, you cant do anything against the gambling site but you can post against the accused person if tge person had any account on this forum.

No matter if he feels that is difficult, he must try it and if necessary, he can ask for help from others, including asking for help from his family and no need to feel embarrassed to admit that he has a gambling addiction. I am sure his family will do many things to help him solve the problem and try their best to make sure he can get out of the addiction. I am sure sooner or later, he can cure the addiction and maybe he will forget about gambling.

I also hope the same that OP must learn from this and will never let gambling decide for His life instead he must be the one to decide.
and besides exclusion is not the answer for the problem because he can always find way to gambling, the best tools is to Help himself to control addiction or seek for His family help, they are the one that can help him out in this deeper problem.

This is not a good look for Stake.

They have had significant issues with their self exclusion program recently and you are not the only one it seems.

Please get the help that you need first.

Consider the funds gone, don't dwell on it, as Stake.com will likely not set a precedent for these matters in case someone tries to exploit it in the future. But someone needs to do something about this current system.

Hopefully, this can be a good lesson for him and us so he does not do the same thing as before and will not try to use too big money that he can not afford. We can control ourselves while playing gambling because the risk will always be behind that. If you can control yourself better than else, you will not get the other bad experience and know that gambling is for fun and will not become addicted to gambling.

And the opposite could be the same for that little quote of yours lol. If OP really wanted to stop gambling, he could, if he really wanted to gamble, then he also could, end of the story. See, it's rather simple with that ain't it? The one with the most control towards whatever you do is you yourself, not anyone else. Blaming a third party is simply escapism towards what you yourself need to do imo. Yes a lot of others could influence whatever you want but that's pretty much you letting them influence, well, yourself.

But also there is a saying that "No Man Is an Island,No man Can stand alone" meaning that even how much Willingness he has yet he cannot win the fight without the help of people around Him but this will only happen if he is willing to surrender Himself for the Betterment of His own life.
acceptance is what he needs first before everything takes place.

Yes that's it, there are thousands of casinos Online that he can turn on even stakes permanently banned his IP addresses .

Will Power, Dedication and obligatory , this will be your weapon to win against addiction .

I remember the saying "If there's a will, there's a way" and it might happen to op for not able to control himself.

So even this particular casino banned him from playing, if he still wants to play then there's always a way to do it. The casino is not the problem here but the gambler itself, you need to control yourself for your own good.

Its not going to be easy but if you're determine then you can do it with the help of the people who has a concern towards you.

 Being addicted to gamblers is not just easy to leave I think Op was addicted and finds ways to gamble even if he encountered this kind of issue with stake.com.
If he has already addicted to gambling there are many ways to not stop unless he already realizes that he is already addicted.
For sure he created new accounts to gamble aagain.
But in Op's case, he can not control himself and I agree with you that the main problem here is he is not the casino.

This is the problem if you are already an addicted gambler because you can do anything just to gamble , But the problem here is that even if Stake.com did banned you mate are you sure that you will never create another account? or at least will create an account in other platform ? because the truth here is that your problem is not about the site but yourself. even how action the gambling site do to favor you but because your desire in gambling is there then you'll do nothing but to find loop hole just to gamble.
best to cure your behavior first before complaining with anything towards gambling.
and also if you think that this is a matter of professionalism then best to seek help from doctors and with the support of your family then you'll win against gambling.

Are you kidding? What has happened to you now is not the first time it has happened to you. He has a compulsive behavioral problem with gambling and that's not fixed because he's lost money now. It's not a matter of opening his mind. The OP has a serious problem and should seek help, as well as use all the tools he can of self-exclusion, although this can always be skipped, as I commented before.

The only solution for him is not to gamble even once again, just as for an alcoholic the solution is not to drink even a drop of alcohol for the rest of his life.

Don't worry mate this will Open your mind about the right way to deal with gambling , now that you have been treated like this, for sure you will grown and never become addicted or engaging in those sites.
this will also teach you how to control your gambling habit because of how casino treats you in times of needed.

As what the Op said, it was one of the employees/representatives of the casino that's why he trusted it since the Op can't control himself anymore. But the fact that he deposited after telling their employee in chat to ban his account yet he still proceed to deposit is already a problem of Op and not the casino. I don't know if he's just trying to deposit to make sure it's not totally active but he's wrong. And as I said before, both have their own mistakes the casino should ban someone if they ask it because they were troubled already.