Topic: stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility - page 7. (Read 1796 times)

I am a firm believer that prevention is definitely better than cure. If one acknowledges that he/she is suffering from any kind of addiction, it is recommended to be highly proactive about it (e.g. preventing any possible return from the addiction).

Whenever someone is truly committed into resolving his/her gambling addiction, it is necessary that there are steps that must be made to prevent him from going back. If by permanently excluding yourself from a gambling website, this can definitely help someone from suffering addiction ever again.

OP is a irresponsible gambler or even a person asking for some sympathy because of his own mistake. The only person to be blame here is OP himself, because he can't control himself, even if he wasn't banned, if he don't want to deposit some money, he won't do it, but he does, because that's what he truly desired. Gambling addiction is a very tough opponent, you'll never get over with it unless you accepted that you need to be treated right away and you have gambling addiction.

To be able to solve a problem, you must admit that there's one.

I rather practice personal gambling discipline instead of using site self exclusion features because many newbie gamblers do not know what the site self-exclusion feature entails, it is better to withdraw your money from the site before you self exclude from the site because you will not be able to withdraw after self-exclusion

Maybe, but why the fuck do sites even have that "Responsible Gaming" policy (and requisite emblem at the bottom) if they aren't going to do anything about it? This is 100% on Stake. It doesn't matter whether the guy would have gone elsewhere and lost his funds. The instant he selected to self exclude, that specific account should have been cut off. No ifs, ands or buts.

They say they care about Responsible Gaming because it makes them look good on the surface. But they don't care one bit.

Instead of self exclusion, you'd better looking for professional to recover your gambling addiction. It's your 100% responsibility to use the website or not, if you don't want to use the website why does you try to deposit and gamble again? Then you blamed them and want return of your last 2 deposit? It's really doesn't make sense.

I believe if you've got excluded by Stake for forever, you'll still use other casino due to your addiction.

Actually it is very often asked to block someone's account. But it is in the reality pointless because who will be able to prevent users to make another one? Or to make drop account and continue playing? No one. That is why it seems really pointless to blame someone in this case. Best regards, 1win team.

I think this is the second time I've seen a thread with this theme directly at Stake.  It's a little strange to me.  The entire line of thinking behind it.  Granted I am not one who claims to be addicted to anything, so maybe I can't comprehend the lack of personal responsibility.  However, it's amazing how people can deny any personal responsibility and even demand that they be compensated because other people allowed them to do what they wanted.  The way I think it a little bit the opposite of that.  I would have been angry if they refused to let you use their service going forward because at one point in time in the past you clicked a button to self exclude. 

We do have our own will and if we do really mean on quitting gambling addiction then we must do and be serious on that one and able to avoid all sorts things which is connected to it and that's the most

sensible thing to be done and if you do tolerate out that addiction then you would really be finding more problems whenever you do encounter things which is related to that.

Stake does have some mistake on here but not really that a major one.You could have just simply ignore it and move on.

The OP needs to move and contemplate on his own life what he really wants to do. Totally forget gambling or not. Because if he decide to totally change his lifestyle, he won't try depositing again to the site. Stake may have some shortcomings from their end, but the total change will come from the user himself. Sites will always want to have players on board. That's their business. And it is your responsibility how to take care of your own.

This is what I understood about this whole deal and if the OP could deposit on his old account then he needs to get his money back as he was supposedly banned when this happened.

However besides that people need to be very careful about becoming addicted to anything and then trying to overcome that addiction, since it is incredibly difficult as due to the age in which we are living we have almost an endless of supply of whatever got you addicted in the first place, so whenever you feel like you are losing control of your gambling that is the time to look for professional help so this does not become an even bigger problem than what already is.

OP asked for a permanent ban on his account and got confirmation from Stake.com support that it had happened. Unfortunately, the addiction is often stronger (OP is aware of this and therefore asked for a ban) and OP tried to make a deposit and it worked. He should not be able to do so, hence his request for a refund of deposit that should not be accepted by Stake.com.

Op,if I understand your submission well, you have asked for self exclusion and they don't render such services and they have ban your account in other to help solve addiction problem and before then you made a deposit for which have lost while playing before the ban and I wonder what refund are you now asking please.

I am addictive gambler and the only site I can't use self exflusion is stake. Pokerstars, betano, stanley, mozzart. Usually I go to pokerstars, play lose/win, self exclude for a month and i move to the next one until I am left without options. This way I am gambling only a week/month. Stake is the only one where if I write to the support or my vip host (I am plat 5) they will ignore my message and just tell me to take it slower, self exclusion works only for 24 hours but you will still receive incoming deposits so it is even worse. Sometimes I wait 24 hours on clock with the account funded in order to play right away. I do feel sorry for the OP, i had a lot of luck while gambling but I feel a guilty feeling on my shoulders as we do nothing to ask Stake to finally become a responsable casino.They are keeping the 24 hours because it is illegal not to have self exclussion and it is illegal not to have a department/system for addicted gamblers, we all want to make money but gambling costs life. Any of you accusing the OP have no shame in you, no respect for whatever difficulties someone have over gambling.
See the askgamblers link posted up in this topic, Stake refunded the user being forced to do so.
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/stake-casino-failure-to-close-account-and-follow-responsible-gambling-regulations
You can't ask a user to prove ownership with screenshots and deposits when he wants the self exclusion. This has to happen on spot, you had already that 10 seconds of waking up to reality, realising that you need to stop and it has to happen at that time. Any second later, you will just deposit again. The casino has no moral and illegal behaviour, this is a fact. I hope this will be fixed, but stop defending stake if you don't know how it is to be an addicted. And do not do jokes or insult saying degen gambler, this isn't a story about fake youtubers going yolo with no risk.

sad to hear your stories here mate and your complain but I have been playing in stake but never that i encounter and issues .

though of course no one can prove your case as you are only claiming about your banning issue in which I believe is your soul responsibility .

Instead of asking the gambling site to Ban you then why not Ban your self from gambling? i mean help your self that asking them to do it for you.

You're right, even not on Stake he might play to other casinos if he feel the eagerness to gamble and spend his money.

Its not the problem of Stake, its because of the op's behavior for not able to control himself then will blame others for his mistake. It happened because op has a gambling addiction issue that should be address. He really needs help to overcome his addiction.

Stake.com will never remain Number 1 crypto gambling site for nothing , Have you read the full thread? or at least the OP? this is about addiction that OP is blaming stake for not excluding Him things that i find Odd , because even if Stake exclude Him from their site but since he is addicted gambler he will make way to play in other site or in stake using another account.
so this is something that must not be blamed for Stake but instead for the Addiction of OP.

When you do make yourself self exclude then you should completely stop and wont tend to make out more deposits since you do know that you've been blocked or banned.
They might missed up on doing so since you could still able to play but with  due common sense then you shouldnt have done that and the worst you had played again
on the amount you had deposits.What if you had won and then the site had blocked out that withdrawal because you are self excluded? For sure you would reallybe
making some complaints again but if you do able to pull those winnings then you would really making no complaints which is a common human being behavior. 

This is why combating an addiction is not something that you do for a few months, overcome it and then never think about it, once you fall into addiction then this becomes a struggle for life, as there are many temptations that will appear along the way to try to get you back to that path.

Which is why even if I think we can all agree that stake made a mistake here we need to also recognize the player needs to do their job as well, and if they have a problem with their gambling then they need to stay away from it as much as possible.

Too bad for a casino that is considered to be reputable. Keeping promises is one of the key ways to stay on top of it. If you can't you can't be among the best. I agree that the gambler should care about his own budget himself, but this is a case where a casino should also engage.

Agree with you, however, as far as I understand, the OP states that he asked a casino to ban him, but they failed to ban him while they promised to do that. As far as I understand, their representative promised to ban and later, when the OP reminded them that he was promised to be banned, they replied that that person was never delegated such duties, etc. The idea is that the casino has no gambling responsibility and we have to admit it. We have to fight all our inner monsters on our own, but the casino has to admit that they weren't right to act like that and to compensate for losses. That' what I think it should work like.