Topic: stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility - page 12. (Read 1868 times)

Yeah, obviously and I think there will be a third complaints since the casino didn't just tried not to exclude a certain player but I believe it didn't exclude most of the old player who has a gambling problems. Both the casino and Op have their own fault but I think it should be the casino that should be blame in overall of the Op's fault since they aren't following what they promised to the player. It might be a little problem to the casino but with their team incompetent skills this will be the start of the big trouble.

I'd say they should get rid of this all self-exclusion crap. If you want to play, you go and play. If you don't then don't play. Self-exclusion may even harm the casino's reputation as you see in this topic. If a player plays and loses, that's not the casinos fault. Why act like it is? This is how they make their money. They need you to lose so they can win.

If a person can't control himself and still plays and loses his life savings why would that be the casino's problem?

Are we going to punish the guy that sells beer just because his customer died from alcohol poisoning? Here is the exact same logic. What about those who smoke 2 packs of cigs every day? Are we going to close down all tobacco shops just because some people are abusing it? Of course no. You can smoke and drink as much as tobacco/alcohol you want as long as you are not driving Nobody cares.

This is why I have always thought that self-exclusion does not really work that well, after all someone that can respect the self-exclusion and not gamble in another casino can be said to have some control over their gambling.

While those that cannot control the urge to gamble will find a way to satisfy their addiction anyway, so while this is something that sounds great in theory when you put it into practice it simply does not work, so while I am sorry for the OP they need to find help as any addiction is a serious business and it can destroy their life.

I guess self-exclusion doesn't include yourself. Honestly, these types of issues are pretty dumb, mostly because the user side, the one that complains most of the time isn't really doing anything to actually "stop" themselves from gambling. Let's be real, no matter how much banning a casino/site does to you so you don't visit them, there are TONS of others out there. If you can't stop yourself from visiting one, who says you can't be stopped from visiting others no?
Yea you're kind of contradicting yourself.
Pretty sure you just have to read how their self-exclusion worked? It's written quite clear in their policies.
https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

I am taking responsibility i am not say i am in the clear i am saying the casino has a responsibility to ban people who have gambling problems. (obv that may not be enough) . Like in Land casino if you get banned you may be able to get back in the casino and play but if you win the jackpot they will ask for id etc... ( This will deter some people from playing or limit the gambling activity) (which i was hoping stake would do)

Like i said i am not saying i am not at fault i am saying the casino failed to fulfill it's moral obligation. You are going to say this doesn't effect me because i have no gambling problem if they are pulling this shady thing. Who knows what other shady things they are doing. Like the "sham 1,000,000 raffle" they did for this Christmas where a user won 4 times not only the raffle but the $100,000 prize + the Race... Who makes an account in 5 days to a random casino they haven't played and wagers 300 million.....

Stake is known to keep people's bet because they suspect of "fixing matches" also kyc people who win big jackpots this is just the tip of the iceberg... That is why i am saying if they are pulling these stunts who knows what else. Keep in mind the license provider they have is not licensed  or governed by a 1st world country.(curacao)  So you can see why they are acting careless.

As a gambler, this all comes back to each one. What has been experienced by you, the problem is quite complicated. This is the risk of gambling, my friend, don't end up blaming one individual or another. Because the fact is that when you first come and gamble, without realizing the consequences of losing or things that end up harming one party, you have agreed.

Let's be mature in dealing with gambling, I know that the money spent must be quite large, therefore choosing and choosing any gambling if in the end we are not mature about the consequences of gambling will only cause anxiety for yourself.

It is the 2nd complain of stake users related to self exclusion.
It proves that gambling problem does really exist where many people cant control themselves then try to blame the casino because of their own addiction.
Funny thing is that most of the complain is about asking refund due to their own addiction then blame the self exclusion system of the casino.
Even if the self exclusion works perfectly, these addicts may find other ways to play again and again such as by creating a new account or play in other casinos.

Got no other things to do but deposit some money even after he just tried to avoid playing?
The temptation is really that irresistible that even if there are lots of other things to do like watching Netflix movies or simply hanging out with friends but he chose to gamble. Maybe stop holding your phone or don't sit on your desktop yet until you see yourself not tempted anymore to gamble.

If this is the case he really needs someone to watch him out or go to rehab, he is hurting himself papestation.

It is indeed your fault. If you have a gambling addiction then it is your fault because you did not control yourself from gambling and losing too much.
If you would have controlled yourself from gambling too much then you would have obviously not lost the money.
It's good that you are trying to restrict yourself from gambling by asking them to ban you but if that's not happening then you shouldn't deposit money at the first place.
You can't blame them for allowing you to gamble but you should blame yourself for gambling without having control on yourself.

In the first place, if they let you in, you should address this to the support but instead, you deposit and play, and when you lose put the blame on Stake.com, obviously you are crying over spilled milk, no one here will support you because you lose and wants to refund, it will be different if you won, you can only ask for refunds if there is a glitch in a system but if it's your fault in playing, the blame is on you.

Guys in 2020 they didn't ban your ip,bitcoin wallet or anything + they didn't do kyc in 2021 they did so had they banned me the urges would have stop me by alot. Because now i  know if i win a big jackpot i will need to kyc. This is not about my gambling problem this is about stake failing its duties to self exclude especially when i message not no one but the owner of the site Eddie who was my vip host. .

Why ask for a money you already lose in the first place? They can bring back your money if you didn't use it to play but unfortunately you took advantage of that privilege again and now blame stake for that losses. Well, you cannot totally changed if you can't help yourself even if they have a responsible gambling, you still the one in charge for your action, so don't blame any site for that attitude. If you are going to ask any site to get banned again, better to commit on that and never come back, this can be more effective if you don't talk too much about gambling.

 Next time instead of making deposit or any action you should consider sharing your problem with a medical specialist, a Doctor..
 I don't see how Eddie or anyone else should be held responsible of your own mistakes

yeah, that may be true but why hasn't the account been permanently closed(from what I understand on the OP's post. his account is not permanently banned/closed after asking Eddie.)?. it is stake.com's responsibility to close the account when OP asked them to close it. if the OP created another account and gambled, then that is entirely his fault and stake.com would not have any responsibility for it.

Don't be that naive. C'mon eh? How do you think casinos make their money? These losers are their bread and butter. What difference does it make if there was a permanent lock? He could have created another account and played anyway. If he wants to play, there is nothing on earth to stop him.

Stake did nothing wrong.

Had you some up with sumthin like I dunno "Stake cheats! Their platform is not honest!!" then you would have a chance maybe but now, you don't have any.

You gotta stop blaming other people for your problems man. You obviously got a problem, you should knock yourself to the nearest hospital man. Gambling ain't a friggin joke man. Money don't grow up on the trees man. Nobody put a gun on your head man, you deposited and lost aaalll fair and squaare. So, stop bichin. Man.

Sorry for your losses mate and i can feel you because i have a brother that has the same problem and he really cannot control His desire in betting even how hard he tries.

But The site has their own rules that i believe you did not follow instead i think you intentionally not commit yourself so you can still Play and put the blame on them , you have been told to complete all the requirements but according to the replies on you there is a mistake on your part.

So you cannot Blame the site instead you must Go for professional help than Blaming the gambling site.

Because in your case of addiction , even Stake.com put you in permanent banning yet you will find other gambling site to Deposit and Play that is what you will surely do so Please never Blame anyone or anything because of your addiction , this is your own fight and not by anyone.

Gambling sites offer different duration on their self-exclusion because not everyone is willing to close their account for good.

I remember recalling a similar issue where their player also contacted eddie instead of their support when it comes to handling self-exclusion and eventually it led to a misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the thread but it was posted here somewhere though.

It will always be easy to create a new account through certain detours. Players should also take their own responsibility. Stake has already done what is within their means. I am convinced that anyone who wants to gamble will do so. Otherwise, go back and play at another site. Casinos do not have to return the money either, the player is not forced to play.

ya.ya.yo!

It will not work if Stake.com let them refund their money, there will be hundreds or even thousands of players doing the same thing if you deposit, play, and lose you can't refund you are playing with the intention to win and you should be responsible on all your actions if you want to get excluded it's not immediate you should request it until it is granted but while waiting, you should avoid anything related to gambling.