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Stake is one of 2-3 websites on this entire forum that offers gambling responsibility and self-exclusion. We will be introducing better tools very soon to help players responsibly manage their gameplay. In this specific situation I am not sure if the correct protocols were followed by the player but I will investigate further.

Under settings -> Preferences is where you can self-exclude your account automatically.

I suggest you get a tool to block all gambling like Gamban.

Bold move made by the representative of stake.com himself. The fact that the representative can easily be contacted speaks to how much integrity and honesty they want to represent themselves in the gambling atmosphere. I mean, all gambling websites are profit-driven (like all businesses) but providing extra tools to at least address gambling addiction by a gambling company itself is quite commendable.

I do suggest that you plan on excluding yourself from the gambling sphere, prepare alternative methods that will somehow help you forget about the feeling of such addiction.
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having control. Maybe their family should step up on this scenario since this person has mental health issues.

20 hours is too much and I guess it's already time for a person who's been spending most of his days in gambling to seek professional help. We can't question them since gambling addiction isn't easy to get rid of and we're not in his shoes but if he wouldn't do something about it, he might regret it in the end. The gambling site itself shouldn't be the one to be blamed but a gambler's decisions.
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It's amazing how last 10 replies are off topic and just everyone is replying to the previous post for 25 cents/post.
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with the moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.
Yep gambling responsibility is very important and from the look of things 20 hours of gambling time is bad timing and you end up with severe addiction that becomes hard to get out of, it leads to bad conditions and losses afterward.

Self-exclusion may be the best way to go about this withdrawal process but the fact is not everyone is lucky to go through that road that is why gambling responsibility is very important and a good aspect or basis for gambling.
20 Hours of gambling straight even for a week will cause deterioration of mind and body but that is what casino operators want on their players, they want as long hours as they can, that is why many casinos do not have windows, clocks and they supply their players with energy drinks and perks so they can keep gambling, the more hours they gamble the more profit they are going to make.
Looks crazy when waste 20 hours in daily day for gambling but I think have been an expert on casino gambling, usually waste few minutes only because I spent with sport betting and open back later when all match have ended, but with casino I think many gambler waste almost 24 hours how they looks forget about their activities exactly when lucky and success win on several casino gambling. They can't stopping and keep running how to try with new casino game trough still have fund on pocket.
legendary
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

Well, it's a lie to start with because nobody can sustain that and you'd have a very sad life if you spent 20 hours straight gambling for a day. Besides the fact of - where is all the money coming from to fund such constant losses? Nobody is winning against these casinos and it's probably one of the lowest forms of entertainment that you can find out there. It's kinda hilarious when people refer to having a "gambling career" because it shows a clear lack of understanding in the basic math that underlies the vast majority of games out there. The only people with a chance are highly skilled poker players, who are unlikely to refer to themselves as gamblers anyway.
hero member
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I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

20 hours of gambling is indeed a clear sign of addiction. I agree with you that gamblers are responsible for having self control. While the casino can do so much in giving cautions and offering self-exclusions, but the final take will still be in the hands and decisions of players. As per the case of OP, I don’t think that he could pushed through with the complaint because he was under the self-exclusion but still deposited and gambled when he’s not supposed to.
hero member
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.
sr. member
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with the moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.
Yep gambling responsibility is very important and from the look of things 20 hours of gambling time is bad timing and you end up with severe addiction that becomes hard to get out of, it leads to bad conditions and losses afterward.

Self-exclusion may be the best way to go about this withdrawal process but the fact is not everyone is lucky to go through that road that is why gambling responsibility is very important and a good aspect or basis for gambling.
20 Hours of gambling straight even for a week will cause deterioration of mind and body but that is what casino operators want on their players, they want as long hours as they can, that is why many casinos do not have windows, clocks and they supply their players with energy drinks and perks so they can keep gambling, the more hours they gamble the more profit they are going to make.
sr. member
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.
I think that depends on the person or on the situation because what if the person doesn't have a job and he is consider gambling as a job or just a past time because when you do not have a job, your life is bored and your looking for ways to entertain your self or you look for ways to earn. Some says treating gambling as a job is wrong but IMO it is not wrong as long as your gambling stats is in profit and not in a loss.

Some person cant get enough of gambling and spending a few hours is not enough for them so they can gamble for extra long hours. I will do the same only if i have a lot of money because my current situation always annoys me the fact that i can only gamble under half an hour or lesser than that due to limited funds.
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with the moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.
Yep gambling responsibility is very important and from the look of things 20 hours of gambling time is bad timing and you end up with severe addiction that becomes hard to get out of, it leads to bad conditions and losses afterward.

Self-exclusion may be the best way to go about this withdrawal process but the fact is not everyone is lucky to go through that road that is why gambling responsibility is very important and a good aspect or basis for gambling.
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20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?
I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.
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It is clearly written that you are not allowed to make "deposit or place any wager ... during your selected self-exclusion". In this case, the user was informed by the casino employee or their customer service representative that his account was permanently banned. Therefore, it cannot be said that the account closing process was ongoing.
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Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it.

Why do you keep saying that?  They do.

https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

Have you used it? What when it says contact support for self exclusion, you need that button act right on the moment, not after waiting 20 minutes to get a stake automatic inter message as template. And when you are disperate to gamble and they ask you 20 security questions before they self exclude you from the account, you just close the chat and go back to gambling, they do nothing.
As heroine kills, gambling is a drug, and stake does not take care of it. They make the casino easier, easier to deposit, easier to gamble, easier to ruin your life by advertising streamers who gamble with high % bonuses and low chance of risk of losing. Man do you hear yourself? This is a crime. People die, families destroyed, this is what is about.

Stake's self-exclusion policy, number 9, bullet 1. I think what it says is very clear to me that you should not attempt deposit or place wager, how come it's not your fault where you are the one who deposit?
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You should not attempt to, deposit or place any wager on any of your accounts from which you have requested to be excluded during your selected self-exclusion.

Huh? You got your 25 cents for the post? Are you able to post on topic?

Even this is dumb, because in other parts of the terms they are saying that you are not allowed to have more than one account, but here they acknowledge that people are having more than 1. Anyway I had a discussion with my vip host that I can bring a secondary account to plat 1 for a special bonus and I said no, I will have only on my account on my name.

What you don't understand is that I don't blame stake. This is crypto gambling, even if stake is active for not even 5 years yet ( soon to be ) etc. You can stop the blockchain from receiving deposits, but you can stop the player from playing those funds.
Respect the gambling as it should be for fun, not to make money. Don't be just angry of making money every day and night. Let's all understand how addiction looks like, and their design is made for addiction. They will always be on profit.

GUYS the moment when we gamble we know we will get only 96% of our money back on long term, don't do same shit as I do, at least I can afford.
hero member
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Stake's self-exclusion policy, number 9, bullet 1. I think what it says is very clear to me that you should not attempt deposit or place wager, how come it's not your fault where you are the one who deposit?
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You should not attempt to, deposit or place any wager on any of your accounts from which you have requested to be excluded during your selected self-exclusion.

Per stake rule, it's the user who is at negligence for depositing money while under self-exclusion, if stake will not return the amount deposited, they should not be questioned because they are just implementing their rules, and rules are meant to everyone, no exemption.
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When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.
Yep, I agree with what you say this must be handled by experts, at least he must be accompanied by a psychiatrist to make this addiction not worse.
20 hours a day means that he only takes 4 hours to rest, Majan and others.
I think if this continues then it is not only not good for finances but it is also not good for the life of the addict.
There have been several cases like this that have even resulted in the addict's death due to this, such as one of Akio Kashiwagi's names who once appeared because he died from addiction to gambling and spent his days in gambling.
Don't let an incident like this happen again to other people, gamble properly because gambling for a long time doesn't necessarily make you profit very much too
sr. member
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Stake's self-exclusion policy, number 9, bullet 1. I think what it says is very clear to me that you should not attempt deposit or place wager, how come it's not your fault where you are the one who deposit?
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You should not attempt to, deposit or place any wager on any of your accounts from which you have requested to be excluded during your selected self-exclusion.
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Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it.

Why do you keep saying that?  They do.

https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion
newbie
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One thing I don't understand? What is wrong with you? Why everyone of you assume that you will just do a new account? I never had 2 accounts on stake, member since 2017, why would I have 2 accounts?! Why would I create another? To have problems with withdraws, even with my addiction this is common sense. Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it. They act without remorse and not in good faith in the relation with the customer. This is already a fact, nothing to talk more about it.

As example on a casino I play a lot, they just banned me manually for 1 month because I was playing last weekend too much (this is gambling responsability from the casino.).

That's the point. Having two accounts and all those things may lead to other even bigger issues with a casino or a bookmaker.
member
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One thing I don't understand? What is wrong with you? Why everyone of you assume that you will just do a new account? I never had 2 accounts on stake, member since 2017, why would I have 2 accounts?! Why would I create another? To have problems with withdraws, even with my addiction this is common sense. Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it. They act without remorse and not in good faith in the relation with the customer. This is already a fact, nothing to talk more about it.

As example on a casino I play a lot, they just banned me manually for 1 month because I was playing last weekend too much (this is gambling responsability from the casino.).
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Gambling addiction is as bad as a virus so everyone needs to be careful to avoid falling into the addiction of any form, I don't see any fault of stake.com here as they just acting on the professional were as an operator the responsibility rest on the player to prepare your self against many things such as addiction, if you have a 24 hours cool off system on stake then you should also know that comes with its terms and conditions and once you failed to follow those condition the site can not be held responsible for whatever happens to your deposit.
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