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Quote from: papestation on December 25, 2021, 10:29:54 PM

I have advised stake that i have a gambling problem in the past they have a 24 hour cooling period so if you self exclude you can

bring yourself back into the game. So for that reason on October 20st i asked eddie personally on telegram as he was my vip to ban me. Then on october 21st

Eddie says i am permanently banned self excluded. Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$. All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

( i have attached pictures as well as a post i made almost 2 years ago regarding same issue at askgamblers.com looks like they haven't improved at all)

Even a lot of land-based casino's allow for people to cancel a self exclusion within 24 hours... Or to return after 90 days.

There is no absolutely perfect way for Casino's to do this.

At some point, it still ultimately relies on you doing your part in avoiding gambling. For example, you could always create a new account using a VPN or a new IP address. Would that too be the Casino's fault? It wouldn't.

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Quote from: pinggoki on December 31, 2021, 01:00:31 PM

Quote from: shasan on December 31, 2021, 03:05:31 AM

Sorry to hear that you have made a loss and it hapened while you decided to stop gambling. But unfortunately, they have no self exclusion period for a long time. In this case, you cant do anything against the gambling site but you can post against the accused person if tge person had any account on this forum.

It's not really the responsibility of the website to have that kind of thing, I mean what's going to change or what's the difference it's going to make if they have that, a gambling addict will always find a way to satisfy their thrills.

If a casino supposedly has a feature but then that feature does not work then the casino has some responsibility due to not upholding their side of the deal.

That being said, the main responsibility by far still falls at the feet of the gambler that is addicted to gambling, and this is because at the end each person is free to do whatever they want to do with their time and their money, and despite any protection that a casino may put in place it is obvious that someone that is addicted to gambling will always find a way to throw away their money as the number of casinos online is huge.

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Quote from: papestation on December 25, 2021, 10:29:54 PM

All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys.

Yeah, it is your fault, nobody forced you to deposit your money and gamble with it. It was your decision. The sooner you stop blaming others the sooner you'll be on the right path to recovery.
Stake needs to do better, but refunding gambling losses to someone with a gambling problem that's trying to stop is irresponsible.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 03, 2022, 06:11:33 AM

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

OP Needs a Professional help and this cannot be answered by this forum or by requesting a permanent banning in gambling site.
also putting blame against Stake.com is wrong because i see no problem from the site it is OP who expect too much as help when it is clearly this is His own mistake.

But like what Yahoo says above, this is OP's obligation to comply in helps and not blaming anyone.

The case is very complicated, and I'm afraid the truth is just in the middle.
The OP has a problem and Stake.com doesn't make it easy for him.

Lets say that Stake.com did the right thing and Banned OP's account on their site, aer you sure that he will not create another account? or at least play in other site?

addicted gamblers has tons of gambling site that has been in their account and can play any time.

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Of course, in situation of lose, OP tries to get money back, and certainly wouldn't try to give it back in the event of a win.
We shouldn't decide here, but I don't think it would be bad if Stake.com gave this money back anonymously and permanently blocked this user. However, this should be settled privately between these two outside the public.

Lol Giving His money back? have you really understand the whole topic here? OP did spend all His fund to gamble and you wanted stake to return it back?

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Quote from: arwin100 on January 03, 2022, 12:12:36 AM

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

I disagree. Avoiding your issues is the wrong way to stop any form of addiction completely. Such a method would only serve to amplify his addiction basically. That isn't how therapy works.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling usually focus more on the money aspect when compared to the fun aspect due to which they lose control easily.

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

You are right, stopping must be a gradual process. The problem is that in total it will have a bad impact on gamblers who have already made betting a useful place. Reducing the portion of gambling a little better if you want to quit the addiction. What is the OP realm is also in fact he is not with all the applicable provisions so find another lighter alternative to get ready for a better one. So little by little, you can get a lighter bet.

Dealing or stopping gradually is recommended but not would be suitable for all because this cant be a way for you to stop out addiction since you are still dealing with it and instead on lessening it then you might really

making it worst because you do spent out time even more with gambling activity which some people would really be seeing that this kind of method would be pointless.If you do really want to quit gambling for good
then stop completely and avoid things as much as you can in terms of those gambling related things which you should really control yourself for the better and if you do really mind on
fixing up things.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 03, 2022, 06:11:33 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on January 03, 2022, 12:12:36 AM

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

I disagree. Avoiding your issues is the wrong way to stop any form of addiction completely. Such a method would only serve to amplify his addiction basically. That isn't how therapy works.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling usually focus more on the money aspect when compared to the fun aspect due to which they lose control easily.

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

You are right, stopping must be a gradual process. The problem is that in total it will have a bad impact on gamblers who have already made betting a useful place. Reducing the portion of gambling a little better if you want to quit the addiction. What is the OP realm is also in fact he is not with all the applicable provisions so find another lighter alternative to get ready for a better one. So little by little, you can get a lighter bet.

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Quote from: peter0425 on January 03, 2022, 07:31:18 AM

Quote from: sovie on January 03, 2022, 06:46:25 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on January 03, 2022, 06:11:33 AM

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

OP Needs a Professional help and this cannot be answered by this forum or by requesting a permanent banning in gambling site.
also putting blame against Stake.com is wrong because i see no problem from the site it is OP who expect too much as help when it is clearly this is His own mistake.

But like what Yahoo says above, this is OP's obligation to comply in helps and not blaming anyone.

The case is very complicated, and I'm afraid the truth is just in the middle.
The OP has a problem and Stake.com doesn't make it easy for him.
Of course, in situation of lose, OP tries to get money back, and certainly wouldn't try to give it back in the event of a win.
We shouldn't decide here, but I don't think it would be bad if Stake.com gave this money back anonymously and permanently blocked this user. However, this should be settled privately between these two outside the public.

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Quote from: sovie on January 03, 2022, 06:46:25 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on January 03, 2022, 06:11:33 AM

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

OP Needs a Professional help and this cannot be answered by this forum or by requesting a permanent banning in gambling site.
also putting blame against Stake.com is wrong because i see no problem from the site it is OP who expect too much as help when it is clearly this is His own mistake.

But like what Yahoo says above, this is OP's obligation to comply in helps and not blaming anyone.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 03, 2022, 06:11:33 AM

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

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Quote from: arwin100 on January 03, 2022, 12:12:36 AM

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

I disagree. Avoiding your issues is the wrong way to stop any form of addiction completely. Such a method would only serve to amplify his addiction basically. That isn't how therapy works.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling usually focus more on the money aspect when compared to the fun aspect due to which they lose control easily.

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

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OP, first of all, you won't get any pity here. If you have a gambling problem or any kind of addiction problem, here is not where you look for help. And to my knowledge, all gamblers with addiction, no matter what, if they want back in they'll find a way back in.

On the side note, I am not in favor of any side here, but also to my understanding, a casino that says it has self exclusion must allow someone with a problem to immediately self-exclude themselves without the need for a casino's admin to intervene. This is why it is called self exclusion in the first place. I am not saying it is anybody's fault but you can't say you allow self-exclusion if you can't do it easily. So can you at Stake? It appears from the screenshots not.

But does that mean they don't have gambling responsibility? Absolutely not. They have it. Just not the way OP would like it.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 31, 2021, 03:19:35 AM

I missed the part where it's a sites responsibility to keep you from gambling. Yes I know alot have self exclusion crap, but in the grand scheme of things it is on you to seek help if you have a problem.

Break your laptop, call a gambling hotline, get a date, or anything to get your mind off gambling.

Hahaha, I love the advises Yahoo in which the only thing that will save Him from gambling because the problem here is even the gambling site banned you still there are lot of ways to gambling unless all the gambling site in the world will ban you then that is different problem lol.
anyway OP has the problem and not stake, we must understand that because we are all gambler and we know how hard to escape from the desire to gamble.

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Quote from: papestation on January 02, 2022, 11:35:54 AM

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

I can't understand how you feel since I never had a gambling addiction issue, but I am pretty sure that you won't get a single cent back based on my research regarding similar cases in the crypto gambling world.

You clearly don't like Stake anymore which is why it's better to shift to other sites which satisfy what you are looking for(Better self-exclusion rules etc) asap in my opinion.

Mostly people have addiction do crazy things and that include blaming someone on what heavy lose they encounter and that include this we see several acts of action like a user telling that the casino is scam due to what they encounter.

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

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AFAIK, Stake doesn't confiscate the winnings and deposit amount unless you seriously abused the promotion with tricky methods. This is not acceptable but Stake puts the account on withdrawing only mode that the user can take out all deposits to the original deposit address.

yeah, I've also read before that when an account is excluded and it still has a balance inside, stake.com will manually give back the remaining balance to the owner of the account. also, what I meant when I said "the money you deposited" is the money he deposited and lost(when he gambled) on the account in question.

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Quote from: papestation on January 02, 2022, 11:35:54 AM

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sure, they are somewhat liable for not permanently closing your account and I think(entirely my opionion) compensation of some kind should be granted to you but asking for the money you deposited because they breached their own policy is not gonna happen.

you are addicted. If you ask me, the best thing you can do is let it go and seek help. if you keep going it'll just get worse and worse until you hit rock bottom.

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Quote from: papestation on January 02, 2022, 11:35:54 AM

Quote from: Shamm on January 01, 2022, 07:25:49 PM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 01, 2022, 06:46:28 PM

Once you do make out a deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that it's your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldn't take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
regarding your action, not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and it's on your self-will to know which one is bad and which one should be done.

It seems that OP did not control himself and become paranoid that's why his own mistake he blame stake.com instead of himself.
He is already addicted to gambling for sure he will make a way to gamble than when he loses a lot and start blaming the site/casino.
Little tip Op you must gamble some of your money and not all bet an amount you afford to loss.

yes i am addicted to gambling lost several thousands so stake.com over 2 years. All i am asking for them is to return less than $2000 of what i deposited because they breached the self exclusion responsible gambling policy. Now days i have limited myself to gambling because i am self excluded at all the well known casino. That is the reason why i asked them to ban me because now they do kyc and now i know if i win big jackpot i wont be legible to win it know because of the kyc. Plus i am a platinum so i get cashback i won't start again because of the shit bonuses they offer to newbies now days.

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

So why not move on since you dont expect for them to give you money? It is unlikely that they would be doing so since you are the one who had able to make out such step even if you do know that

you are self excluded but somehow Stake does have some mistakes on here but i dont believe that they will really be granting out on what you are requesting even if you are a Plat member.

Lets just hope that they would really be making out some considerations but dont let your hopes up because it would really just frustrate you.

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Quote from: papestation on January 02, 2022, 11:35:54 AM

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

I can't understand how you feel since I never had a gambling addiction issue, but I am pretty sure that you won't get a single cent back based on my research regarding similar cases in the crypto gambling world.

You clearly don't like Stake anymore which is why it's better to shift to other sites which satisfy what you are looking for(Better self-exclusion rules etc) asap in my opinion.

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Gambling sites offer different duration on their self-exclusion because not everyone is willing to close their account for good. I remember recalling a similar issue where their player also contacted eddie instead of their support when it comes to handling self-exclusion and eventually it led to a misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the thread but it was posted here somewhere though.

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Quote from: Shamm on January 01, 2022, 07:25:49 PM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 01, 2022, 06:46:28 PM

Once you do make out a deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that it's your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldn't take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
regarding your action, not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and it's on your self-will to know which one is bad and which one should be done.

It seems that OP did not control himself and become paranoid that's why his own mistake he blame stake.com instead of himself.
He is already addicted to gambling for sure he will make a way to gamble than when he loses a lot and start blaming the site/casino.
Little tip Op you must gamble some of your money and not all bet an amount you afford to loss.

yes i am addicted to gambling lost several thousands so stake.com over 2 years. All i am asking for them is to return less than $2000 of what i deposited because they breached the self exclusion responsible gambling policy. Now days i have limited myself to gambling because i am self excluded at all the well known casino. That is the reason why i asked them to ban me because now they do kyc and now i know if i win big jackpot i wont be legible to win it know because of the kyc. Plus i am a platinum so i get cashback i won't start again because of the shit bonuses they offer to newbies now days.

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 01, 2022, 06:46:28 PM

Once you do make out a deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that it's your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldn't take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
regarding your action, not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and it's on your self-will to know which one is bad and which one should be done.

It seems that OP did not control himself and become paranoid that's why his own mistake he blame stake.com instead of himself.
He is already addicted to gambling for sure he will make a way to gamble than when he loses a lot and start blaming the site/casino.
Little tip Op you must gamble some of your money and not all bet an amount you afford to loss.

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