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Quote from: Taskford on March 02, 2022, 05:00:22 AM

Exactly and he didn't even say good to stake for offering that since this is already good offer to take. Maybe this is lesson for greedy gambler to settle on the blessing what they offer to them and don't ask for more especially if you know for yourself that you are the one who supposed to blame on what action you made. And I don't for sure he cannot get any sympathy since for sure people find it unrelevant rant.

He wouldnt really get any sympathy if he does really expect for the community to do so because we do see on whats the situation and its obviously clear that this is his own fault on which he do tolerate out his

own addiction and reject out Stakes offer because he's expecting something bigger that they would be giving out but the opposite had happened out which it is really just more better
if he just accepted it earlier as a form of settlement but now things becomes even more lit and not surprising stake would definitely do that.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on March 01, 2022, 03:26:59 PM

As simple as that and it should really be their responsibility with their actions.If they dont really like to play and dont get involved with gambling anymore then they should normally trying to avoid all sort of things
connected to it and even if you able to receive those promotional emails then if you are really that serious on quitting or stopping then you would simply just ignore and wont tend to read it but if you do
the opposite thing then you are the ones who do have the problem and not theirs even though there are some lapses but it is really your mistake honestly.

That’s exactly the point. How are these players, who are self-proclaimed to be quitting gambling, expect to get help from the management to be able to really stop gambling if they can’t help themselves in the first place, right? I think that what they really need to do is total detachment and unplug from any gambling related, and most especially, get professional help.

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on March 01, 2022, 02:59:06 PM

Ultimately it remains primarily the responsibility of the player, he himself chooses to create an account and to bet money on races. The site has no influence on that. Every site handles self-exclusion differently. I don't even know what the license says exactly. An easy logic would be, if you don't want to play, just don't log in and don't deposit.

We can say that but not for the people who have already joined the gambling sites. They have even spent a lot of money and have high hopes to earn a lot of money from gambling games. Indeed the player has a great responsibility when he decides to join a gambling site, and even though the casino has said that he should not spend a lot of money, the player continues to gamble. If this is the case, the player will most likely suffer many losses.

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on March 01, 2022, 03:02:56 AM

Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

You should be thankful in the first place because they offer you this and I believe that this is the first time they did this because they already have a feature called rakeback, bonuses and others where a gambler can get some return for the money that they lost and it's not their fault that you lost a lot of money.

You realized that it was a good offer so you say yes but it seems it too late already because they already closed their doors. They assume that you don't like the offer and they are hurt when you say additional negative words to them. Sorry but I'm with stake. I'm not biased here even though I have been playing on their casino because I can also see their great service.

Obviously, he wants more based on his post and tries to bribe Stake.com if he succeeded in doing that we'll have more complaints like this, $1000 is still a generous offer to be declined, Stake.com did not cheat him intentionally there was a system error and they admit it but you want more that they want to offer, if you want to take this further you'll have to file it in court and it will cause you a lot of more money.

For what actions he show he likely want more and I don't know why he didn't like the offer since in the end its good to take that offer than get nothing. But guess this will not take anywhere so for those people who like to gamble just play responsibly and always know your limits so that you cannot get dismay on what you are doing at the end of the day once you lost your money for iresponsible doings.

He get on what he deserved and its still a good thing that Stake did really offer some sort of compensation which the amount isnt really that bad but he refuses to accept it and now
that he already agreed but Stake had changed up their minds.
Its true that you are the ones who should really took the blame and not theirs.You are trying out to make yourself whose the victim on here which it is clearly
it your fault on not being responsible nor being having that good self control.

Exactly and he didn't even say good to stake for offering that since this is already good offer to take. Maybe this is lesson for greedy gambler to settle on the blessing what they offer to them and don't ask for more especially if you know for yourself that you are the one who supposed to blame on what action you made. And I don't for sure he cannot get any sympathy since for sure people find it unrelevant rant.

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Quote from: Taskford on March 01, 2022, 05:19:36 PM

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on March 01, 2022, 03:02:56 AM

Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

You should be thankful in the first place because they offer you this and I believe that this is the first time they did this because they already have a feature called rakeback, bonuses and others where a gambler can get some return for the money that they lost and it's not their fault that you lost a lot of money.

You realized that it was a good offer so you say yes but it seems it too late already because they already closed their doors. They assume that you don't like the offer and they are hurt when you say additional negative words to them. Sorry but I'm with stake. I'm not biased here even though I have been playing on their casino because I can also see their great service.

Obviously, he wants more based on his post and tries to bribe Stake.com if he succeeded in doing that we'll have more complaints like this, $1000 is still a generous offer to be declined, Stake.com did not cheat him intentionally there was a system error and they admit it but you want more that they want to offer, if you want to take this further you'll have to file it in court and it will cause you a lot of more money.

For what actions he show he likely want more and I don't know why he didn't like the offer since in the end its good to take that offer than get nothing. But guess this will not take anywhere so for those people who like to gamble just play responsibly and always know your limits so that you cannot get dismay on what you are doing at the end of the day once you lost your money for iresponsible doings.

He get on what he deserved and its still a good thing that Stake did really offer some sort of compensation which the amount isnt really that bad but he refuses to accept it and now
that he already agreed but Stake had changed up their minds.
Its true that you are the ones who should really took the blame and not theirs.You are trying out to make yourself whose the victim on here which it is clearly
it your fault on not being responsible nor being having that good self control.

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Quote from: Zilon on February 01, 2022, 12:49:29 PM

Managing database could be another world of difficulty.

Not a hard thing if they have control on it. There's always the faster query on their database and can just remove the email of the person that don't want to receive it if they've been asked nicely. But as said, the option is there for each individuals that have found it annoying and don't want to receive it anymore through unsubscribing.

Their management for sure won't really do too much with the database for just a user there's an option to their mailing notification such as the ideal is the unsubscribe its one of their feature option so they don't need to make it handle to the backend of course only the devs will handle at that request. They already give an option to their users else you can use the spam notifications with the feature of the platform you are using to prevent direct to your primary inbox or notifications.

That's it.
They won't waste their time doing it if they have a feature that can be done and pressed by the user. It's not hidden elsewhere but always at the bottom of their emails.
It is just that there's seem to be a feeling of being high as a customer that the casino has that obligation of doing that favor for him.

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on March 01, 2022, 03:02:56 AM

Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

You should be thankful in the first place because they offer you this and I believe that this is the first time they did this because they already have a feature called rakeback, bonuses and others where a gambler can get some return for the money that they lost and it's not their fault that you lost a lot of money.

You realized that it was a good offer so you say yes but it seems it too late already because they already closed their doors. They assume that you don't like the offer and they are hurt when you say additional negative words to them. Sorry but I'm with stake. I'm not biased here even though I have been playing on their casino because I can also see their great service.

Obviously, he wants more based on his post and tries to bribe Stake.com if he succeeded in doing that we'll have more complaints like this, $1000 is still a generous offer to be declined, Stake.com did not cheat him intentionally there was a system error and they admit it but you want more that they want to offer, if you want to take this further you'll have to file it in court and it will cause you a lot of more money.

For what actions he show he likely want more and I don't know why he didn't like the offer since in the end its good to take that offer than get nothing. But guess this will not take anywhere so for those people who like to gamble just play responsibly and always know your limits so that you cannot get dismay on what you are doing at the end of the day once you lost your money for iresponsible doings.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 01, 2022, 01:18:17 PM

Quote from: Gekkevis7 on March 01, 2022, 03:02:56 AM

Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

You should be thankful in the first place because they offer you this and I believe that this is the first time they did this because they already have a feature called rakeback, bonuses and others where a gambler can get some return for the money that they lost and it's not their fault that you lost a lot of money.

You realized that it was a good offer so you say yes but it seems it too late already because they already closed their doors. They assume that you don't like the offer and they are hurt when you say additional negative words to them. Sorry but I'm with stake. I'm not biased here even though I have been playing on their casino because I can also see their great service.

Obviously, he wants more based on his post and tries to bribe Stake.com if he succeeded in doing that we'll have more complaints like this, $1000 is still a generous offer to be declined, Stake.com did not cheat him intentionally there was a system error and they admit it but you want more that they want to offer, if you want to take this further you'll have to file it in court and it will cause you a lot of more money.

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Quote from: apaben on February 18, 2022, 09:54:50 AM

I don't like anything excessive, it must have an effect, I do like gambling but not too much that can make me frustrated or not. and only people who lose a lot of money become frustrated and mentally down that I know and often happens.?
I think a responsible gambling website will have a good priority and will definitely keep members safe. If you are not responsible, of course, the name of the web will be a fugitive from a bad image fraud.

Most person's take gambling for a hubby,and keep on gambling every day.Most times they loose,and some times,they win,but the times they loose is much more bigger than when they win,that is to say that the amount of money they've lost is much more bigger than the one they've won,that is why it is adviceable to gamble only when we see a sure odd.
In all,we should try to limit our gambling rate,Atleast not taking it as a hobby so as to avoid waste of resources and money.

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Quote from: apaben on February 18, 2022, 09:54:50 AM

I don't like anything excessive, it must have an effect, I do like gambling but not too much that can make me frustrated or not. and only people who lose a lot of money become frustrated and mentally down that I know and often happens.?
I think a responsible gambling website will have a good priority and will definitely keep members safe. If you are not responsible, of course, the name of the web will be a fugitive from a bad image fraud.

Yes, it is right. Anything in excess will not be good for us, especially playing gambling excessively. We have learned many lessons about how many people suffer losses in gambling games. That's enough for us to be a lesson for ourselves and lest we also experience the same thing.

Gambling websites warn their members to always act responsibly in gambling, but most people don't pay attention to this and get bad results. Everything will return to each of us, how we can take care of ourselves in playing gambling and not spending too much money.

Ultimately it remains primarily the responsibility of the player, he himself chooses to create an account and to bet money on races. The site has no influence on that. Every site handles self-exclusion differently. I don't even know what the license says exactly. An easy logic would be, if you don't want to play, just don't log in and don't deposit.

As simple as that and it should really be their responsibility with their actions.If they dont really like to play and dont get involved with gambling anymore then they should normally trying to avoid all sort of things
connected to it and even if you able to receive those promotional emails then if you are really that serious on quitting or stopping then you would simply just ignore and wont tend to read it but if you do
the opposite thing then you are the ones who do have the problem and not theirs even though there are some lapses but it is really your mistake honestly.

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Quote from: terrific on February 01, 2022, 06:17:41 PM

Quote from: Zilon on February 01, 2022, 12:49:29 PM

Managing database could be another world of difficulty.

Not a hard thing if they have control on it. There's always the faster query on their database and can just remove the email of the person that don't want to receive it if they've been asked nicely. But as said, the option is there for each individuals that have found it annoying and don't want to receive it anymore through unsubscribing.

Their management for sure won't really do too much with the database for just a user there's an option to their mailing notification such as the ideal is the unsubscribe its one of their feature option so they don't need to make it handle to the backend of course only the devs will handle at that request. They already give an option to their users else you can use the spam notifications with the feature of the platform you are using to prevent direct to your primary inbox or notifications.

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Quote from: apaben on February 18, 2022, 09:54:50 AM

I don't like anything excessive, it must have an effect, I do like gambling but not too much that can make me frustrated or not. and only people who lose a lot of money become frustrated and mentally down that I know and often happens.?
I think a responsible gambling website will have a good priority and will definitely keep members safe. If you are not responsible, of course, the name of the web will be a fugitive from a bad image fraud.

Yes, it is right. Anything in excess will not be good for us, especially playing gambling excessively. We have learned many lessons about how many people suffer losses in gambling games. That's enough for us to be a lesson for ourselves and lest we also experience the same thing.

Gambling websites warn their members to always act responsibly in gambling, but most people don't pay attention to this and get bad results. Everything will return to each of us, how we can take care of ourselves in playing gambling and not spending too much money.

Ultimately it remains primarily the responsibility of the player, he himself chooses to create an account and to bet money on races. The site has no influence on that. Every site handles self-exclusion differently. I don't even know what the license says exactly. An easy logic would be, if you don't want to play, just don't log in and don't deposit.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 01, 2022, 01:18:17 PM

Quote from: Gekkevis7 on March 01, 2022, 03:02:56 AM

Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

You should be thankful in the first place because they offer you this and I believe that this is the first time they did this because they already have a feature called rakeback, bonuses and others where a gambler can get some return for the money that they lost and it's not their fault that you lost a lot of money.

You realized that it was a good offer so you say yes but it seems it too late already because they already closed their doors. They assume that you don't like the offer and they are hurt when you say additional negative words to them. Sorry but I'm with stake. I'm not biased here even though I have been playing on their casino because I can also see their great service.

Sometimes our ego could really be the main reason on why we do miss out those kind of opportunities yet that $1k isnt really a bad amount imho and he's indeed lucky that he's been offered for that amount

which i dont see for stake to be having some sort of responsibility because this had been a self-control kind of problem on a certain individual even though there was some error but not really that much

of a major thing yet you are the ones who could really control yourself on not to play after you do know that you've been excluded already.

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on March 01, 2022, 03:02:56 AM

Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

You should be thankful in the first place because they offer you this and I believe that this is the first time they did this because they already have a feature called rakeback, bonuses and others where a gambler can get some return for the money that they lost and it's not their fault that you lost a lot of money.

You realized that it was a good offer so you say yes but it seems it too late already because they already closed their doors. They assume that you don't like the offer and they are hurt when you say additional negative words to them. Sorry but I'm with stake. I'm not biased here even though I have been playing on their casino because I can also see their great service.

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on March 01, 2022, 03:02:56 AM

Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

You have yourself to blame you keep blaming Stake.com for your condition you should have taken the $1000 offer so you can move on and move forward but you choose to spam Stake.com I don't think your issue will stand you will eventually get yourself banned for spamming, next time they offer you take it so you can move forward and end your depression.

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Quote from: apaben on February 18, 2022, 09:54:50 AM

I don't like anything excessive, it must have an effect, I do like gambling but not too much that can make me frustrated or not. and only people who lose a lot of money become frustrated and mentally down that I know and often happens.?
I think a responsible gambling website will have a good priority and will definitely keep members safe. If you are not responsible, of course, the name of the web will be a fugitive from a bad image fraud.

I am with you in terms of I like everything in moderations but I don’t think it should fall on the onus of a gambling
Website to look out for the well being of its players. I guess it’s the libertarian side of me here speaking but I feel like everyone should be responsible for their own doings, good or bad (to an extent, I don’t think we should legal or heroin tomorrow or anything).

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Quote from: apaben on February 18, 2022, 09:54:50 AM

I don't like anything excessive, it must have an effect, I do like gambling but not too much that can make me frustrated or not. and only people who lose a lot of money become frustrated and mentally down that I know and often happens.?
I think a responsible gambling website will have a good priority and will definitely keep members safe. If you are not responsible, of course, the name of the web will be a fugitive from a bad image fraud.

Yes, it is right. Anything in excess will not be good for us, especially playing gambling excessively. We have learned many lessons about how many people suffer losses in gambling games. That's enough for us to be a lesson for ourselves and lest we also experience the same thing.

Gambling websites warn their members to always act responsibly in gambling, but most people don't pay attention to this and get bad results. Everything will return to each of us, how we can take care of ourselves in playing gambling and not spending too much money.

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Alright, so Stake has responded to my claim with the third party provider. They offered me an amount of $1000, which was nowhere near the amount of the damage they caused. So I explained that this amount does not cover the damage they have caused by sending me promotional emails on an self excluded account. Then 2 days later I reconsidered their offer and decided to take their $1000 offer.

Stake has decided to not pay the $1000 compensation and keep on ignoring all my mails. The way this company is handling this is absolutely ridiculous and I have seen enough to tell you all this company is pure evil. For anyone wanting to see the conversations with Stake please let me know, I will share them here.

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I don't like anything excessive, it must have an effect, I do like gambling but not too much that can make me frustrated or not. and only people who lose a lot of money become frustrated and mentally down that I know and often happens.?
I think a responsible gambling website will have a good priority and will definitely keep members safe. If you are not responsible, of course, the name of the web will be a fugitive from a bad image fraud.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 23, 2021, 07:23:08 AM

It's not a big problem for me as I don't use my real email on gambling sites. Well, I think you can block emails from certain email address, maybe you can use that feature. If you are a problem gambler and you just want to quit, then just avoid any contact from the site, why not just disregard the emails you are receiving, it should not affect you if you are in the healing process.

This is true. Like what they have said, prevention is always better than cure. It would have been smooth sailing if the OP just blocked all the means the casino can contact him since he is in the recovery stage. That way, they could no longer reach him. However, I believe the casino is still somehow responsible as well because they should monitor everyone who requested to be excluded the moment the client already told them so to avoid inconvenience on the client's side as well as to not cause any nuisance since we're all aware that gambling addiction is really a serious problem that doesn't just take a one sitting to be addressed and healed.

I know this incident already happened in late 2021, but let this be a lesson to both gambler and the casino owner to be responsible for their actions and lack thereof. Let's not practice pinpointing who to blame and instead just do proactive measures to prevent such incidents to happen again.

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