Stake.com & responsible gambling? - page 5.

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on January 04, 2022, 05:21:53 PM

Unfortunately Stake still has not adressed my issue, they ignore me on mail, ignore me on this forum, and they are also ignoring the third party complaint. Don't know what to do. Huh

I know there should be an action that Stake should do as part of their commitment to their users but I can't just imagine that, is it only the Stake's action that will solve all this matter? They are not addressing the issue and you claim that they are ignoring you for several days but why still wait on their response instead of moving forward. Don't allow yourself to be stuck on that. I mean, no money was involved in pending status or on-hold.

You can still stay away from gambling even without waiting for Stake's response.

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on January 04, 2022, 05:21:53 PM

Unfortunately Stake still has not adressed my issue, they ignore me on mail, ignore me on this forum, and they are also ignoring the third party complaint. Don't know what to do. Huh

There were suggestions to you on what you should do. And if a representative has already talked to you, I think they've decided that's already enough on you and you should be the one to avoid it on your own. Although your concern is a matter of seriousness I think you should also push yourself to just avoid and follow the instructions given to you. I wish you recovery and hopefully it's a continuous thing in your end and you should remain responsible as you're in the process of it.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 02, 2022, 07:51:55 PM

Quote from: Quidat on January 02, 2022, 04:25:48 PM

Stake does have some lapses or fault too but in general aspect then i would say that the user would be always had the fault on why he had tolerated that addiction inside of him which do controls of him.

I don't see any fault in the platform itself here. We as a gambler should know our own responsibility. We are not even sure that Stake is the only one exposed to the OP. Even he completely get rid of any Stake stuff, there always be a time that he will encounter a different site.

I hope OP is doing well now. Good luck to his journey of truly stopping his gambling activity.

They do have because if OP had requested out for some self exclusion then access to his own account shouldnt be possible since it would be restricted but if he do able to access it out
then it does means that they had forgotten on doing their job but as a player then it is really depending on your own self will on how to decide on things and its just common sense
that you wont be playing on that platform or making deposits since you had requested out for some self exclusion due to your addiction problems.
So i dont see the point on why he had really been forcing for some justice.

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Quote from: milewilda on January 03, 2022, 06:13:20 PM

Quote from: seleme on January 03, 2022, 05:45:44 PM

Just curious, what was response by Stake Bitcointalk representatives aka Steve, Stunna? Didn't find the proper response by OP, hope all mentioned issues are fixed. Btw, he can post in Stake forum too..

Yep, he could post up on these places.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-the-leading-crypto-casino-drake-ufc-everton-alfa-romeo-f1-team-2072589
https://stakecommunity.com/

We didnt really able to see those admins/owners responses when it comes to this yet it cant really be denied
that they do really have some mistakes on here.

Unfortunately Stake still has not adressed my issue, they ignore me on mail, ignore me on this forum, and they are also ignoring the third party complaint. Don't know what to do. Huh

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Quote from: seleme on January 03, 2022, 05:45:44 PM

Just curious, what was response by Stake Bitcointalk representatives aka Steve, Stunna? Didn't find the proper response by OP, hope all mentioned issues are fixed. Btw, he can post in Stake forum too..

Yep, he could post up on these places.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-the-leading-crypto-casino-drake-ufc-everton-alfa-romeo-f1-team-2072589
https://stakecommunity.com/

We didnt really able to see those admins/owners responses when it comes to this yet it cant really be denied
that they do really have some mistakes on here.

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Just curious, what was a response by Stake Bitcointalk representatives aka Steve, Stunna? Didn't find the proper response by OP, hope all mentioned issues are fixed. Btw, he can post in Stake forum too..

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When you blame everyone but not yourself, you are really not on the way to healing, because there is still denial

The way to recognize the overall problem would be over a lifetime of avoiding this mistake and to not repeat it. So I would have to agree with the above comment that the mistake is more likely to be solved by taking onboard the mistake personally and accepting the loss is part of the price to avoid future losses. The lifetime achievement of getting past this is far bigger then the loss for just this occasion, its worth accepting the mistake personally.
I agree you should not be getting promotional emails at all, really this cant be allowed to get through from any company. That does need to be addressed separately and I would recommend something like gmail as an email client that can filter emails, block this kind of thing as part of a safe internet policy that companies do advance as a requirement or basic feature. Dont rely on just one element or company as obviously multiple avenues exist to gamble so a general approach will be needed.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on January 03, 2022, 03:45:27 PM

What you should do is to show evidence of what you are complaining about to make things easy for you. Since no real prove nobody knows if what you are saying is really what happened.

He had posted up that chat conversation in one of Stake supports in OP.
https://ibb.co/YdP903z

Although there might be some lapses on where Stake had commited out but as a user and you know that you are self excluded then you shouldn't
really made out deposits on the first place.

Its a self will kind of act which it isn't surprising that it did turn up into a mess.

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What you should do is to show evidence of what you are complaining about to make things easy for you. Since no real prove nobody knows if what you are saying is really what happened.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 03, 2022, 03:31:16 PM

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playing gambling with uncontrolled lust will end in defeat, I always play gambling with a relaxed and calm state there are no problems in life. and more and more defeats make the minus assets drive crazy, this will make the mental illness section will be disturbed I've experienced something like this. can't sleep because of the defeat that has been experienced in the first bankruptcy from the beginning of playing gambling?

Actually, OP already admitted that, and what he is doing currently is how to deal with his gambling problems. But he is blaming Stake because of not excluding OP on receiving updates and that he's concerned about.

Stake since having that policy about exclusion, OP expects that no more email associated with Stake will come to him.

And that will be the challenge that OP needs to work out even receiving emails related to gambling.

If the OP has strong desire to change his path, the emails won't be a problem for him.
He can always ignore it and focus on his goals in life.
At the end of the day, you are the one who will choose your path.
Are you going to be a weak person and follow the temptations around you?
This will be a test on how solid he is with his targets, if he can surpass such temptation, he will be proud of himself for this achievement.

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playing gambling with uncontrolled lust will end in defeat, I always play gambling with a relaxed and calm state there are no problems in life. and more and more defeats make the minus assets drive crazy, this will make the mental illness section will be disturbed I've experienced something like this. can't sleep because of the defeat that has been experienced in the first bankruptcy from the beginning of playing gambling?

Actually, OP already admitted that, and what he is doing currently is how to deal with his gambling problems. But he is blaming Stake because of not excluding OP on receiving updates and that he's concerned about.

Stake since having that policy about exclusion, OP expects that no more email associated with Stake will come to him.

And that will be the challenge that OP needs to work out even receiving emails related to gambling.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on January 03, 2022, 12:52:33 PM

I also really support you to stop but if promotional emails keep coming then changing your email is the best choice you can make

I'm sure there's a setting in our Email provider for blocking or ignoring emails from a specific email address.

As far as I know, since Stake only uses 1 email address dedicated for their promotions, OP can consider doing the address blocking or something related to that.

Give it a try, OP if there's a problem dealing with Stake's unsubscription list.

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Quote from: Gekkevis7 on December 23, 2021, 03:39:29 AM

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on the one hand it is your right to be angry because you keep getting promotional messages from stake but on the one hand they only run a system and when you activate receiving emails from stake, it will be difficult to stop in future

I also really support you to stop but if promotional emails keep coming then changing your email is the best choice you can make

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 30, 2021, 05:14:20 PM

If you are true to your dedication that you don't want to gamble, you will soon recover even you will receive lots of emails from different websites. Don't blame them as in the first place, you are the one who allows yourself to be addicted to gambling. Help yourself in return.

When you blame everyone but not yourself, you are really not on the way to healing, because there is still denial, you are still tempted and you are still playing when you have been given a chance to play, you are not yet a responsible player who can take a loss and not blame anyone, take this experience as part of your journey to healing, you will one day laugh at this experience.

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Quote from: panjul07 on January 02, 2022, 12:14:27 PM

Quote from: Desmong on January 02, 2022, 10:33:21 AM

~Maybe you don't know that all those adverts that is always sent to him can trigger the feelings of gambling again. Gambling addiction is a spirit which needs to be avoided of not.

Even if he does not receive any advert/promotional email, the trigger may come from other place where he lives or even it may come from his own mind.
The key of recovering from addiction is on ourselves, success or not will be depending on ourselves as we are the one who responsible for our own problems.
Never blame other parties of our problems, we should find our own best way to solve it.

Absolutely. If we can be triggered by an e-mail, then we can be triggered by anything, from a scene in a movie to a graffiti on a dirty wall. Those are all excuses from dealing with the problem properly. A gambling addict should be visiting a specialist, and maybe taking some medicines, until nothing could make him gamble again. Before that day giving this person money(including such money he's trying to get from Stake) would only worsen his condition.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 02, 2022, 07:58:46 PM

And besides, we should not blame this self-exclusion or staying away program of some gambling sites why we are continuing our desire to gamble.

We should try to force ourselves to be responsible even how hard it is. I understand that it's really tough to survive an addiction but only we can help ourselves to overcome that. It takes a long time to fully recover but when successful, it's good to our feeling that we surpass something that is really difficult to do.

I totally agree, overcoming gambling addiction is very difficult but having a self dedication and determination to overcome it would only make a person become successful on moving on from it and officially heal from this addiction. But on the other hand, I can't also invalidate the feeling of OP about the gambling site because I think he really have a hard time overcoming his gambling addiction but also on the other hand, we shouldn't have to blame the site also because at the end of the day the healing process of a certain person lies ahead on them.

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Quote from: South Park on January 02, 2022, 01:44:14 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on December 30, 2021, 05:14:20 PM

OP if you really want to change, any promotions or whatever email you will receive is a test that you need to pass. It's not that Stake is the only site you will encounter in the future. Even by simply walking on your street, you might see gambling-related stuff.

If you are true to your dedication that you don't want to gamble, you will soon recover even you will receive lots of emails from different websites. Don't blame them as in the first place, you are the one who allows yourself to be addicted to gambling. Help yourself in return.

I agree, while in a perfect world once you decide to receive emails from a source or you self-exclude then you will not receive any kind of promotional material at the same time that kind of offer is going to appear anywhere, for example if you are a fan of any sport you are bound to see a lot of ads promoting sport betting and if you do not have the resolve to ignore them then sooner or later you will fall into addiction again, so it is important to be able to overcome those temptations as they are everywhere.

And besides, we should not blame this self-exclusion or staying away program of some gambling sites why we are continuing our desire to gamble.

We should try to force ourselves to be responsible even how hard it is. I understand that it's really tough to survive an addiction but only we can help ourselves to overcome that. It takes a long time to fully recover but when successful, it's good to our feeling that we surpass something that is really difficult to do.

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Quote from: Quidat on January 02, 2022, 04:25:48 PM

Stake does have some lapses or fault too but in general aspect then i would say that the user would be always had the fault on why he had tolerated that addiction inside of him which do controls of him.

I don't see any fault in the platform itself here. We as a gambler should know our own responsibility. We are not even sure that Stake is the only one exposed to the OP. Even he completely get rid of any Stake stuff, there always be a time that he will encounter a different site.

I hope OP is doing well now. Good luck to his journey of truly stopping his gambling activity.

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Quote from: South Park on January 02, 2022, 01:44:14 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on December 30, 2021, 05:14:20 PM

OP if you really want to change, any promotions or whatever email you will receive is a test that you need to pass. It's not that Stake is the only site you will encounter in the future. Even by simply walking on your street, you might see gambling-related stuff.

If you are true to your dedication that you don't want to gamble, you will soon recover even you will receive lots of emails from different websites. Don't blame them as in the first place, you are the one who allows yourself to be addicted to gambling. Help yourself in return.

I agree, while in a perfect world once you decide to receive emails from a source or you self-exclude then you will not receive any kind of promotional material at the same time that kind of offer is going to appear anywhere, for example if you are a fan of any sport you are bound to see a lot of ads promoting sport betting and if you do not have the resolve to ignore them then sooner or later you will fall into addiction again, so it is important to be able to overcome those temptations as they are everywhere.

When it comes to exposure and due to easy access or simply talks about accessibility then there would be lots of temptations or things along the way which could really poke up your own
addiction inside and if you arent really serious on quitting gambling in the first place then you would really be finding this as a hard situation for you to get rid of on things.
Stake does have some lapses or fault too but in general aspect then i would say that the user would be always had the fault on why he had tolerated that addiction
inside of him which do controls of him.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 30, 2021, 05:14:20 PM

OP if you really want to change, any promotions or whatever email you will receive is a test that you need to pass. It's not that Stake is the only site you will encounter in the future. Even by simply walking on your street, you might see gambling-related stuff.

If you are true to your dedication that you don't want to gamble, you will soon recover even you will receive lots of emails from different websites. Don't blame them as in the first place, you are the one who allows yourself to be addicted to gambling. Help yourself in return.

I agree, while in a perfect world once you decide to receive emails from a source or you self-exclude then you will not receive any kind of promotional material at the same time that kind of offer is going to appear anywhere, for example if you are a fan of any sport you are bound to see a lot of ads promoting sport betting and if you do not have the resolve to ignore them then sooner or later you will fall into addiction again, so it is important to be able to overcome those temptations as they are everywhere.

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