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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 07, 2023, 03:32:21 PM

The latest news or rather an update I just saw in one of the news channel I am following on telegram said that the FBI says North Korean hackers 'Lazarus Group' are behind Stake․com's $41 million crypto theft.

I don't know how true this is since there is no reference link or site attached to the news yet ..

It is confirmed:

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 07, 2023, 03:32:21 PM

But my question now is, if this supposedly turns out to be true, is there any chance of stake getting that money back?, Since the group behind the hack has been uncovered or discovered ?

A certain no. Unless the hacker gave it back, which is extremely unlikely. Moreover, it is known that in many past hack incidents that were attributed to the group, the victim entities did not get their money back. Lastly, just because the threat actor is discovered does not mean authority official know their place or have access to them.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on September 07, 2023, 11:20:51 AM

My Twitter got tagged.
But not from directly a fake Twitter account, the tag using a normal account to the scammer account. It's not just (Stake) currently I just got for (ROO) token fake sale on Roobet-Casino. They scraped the follower data and botting the tag to fake twitter.

Those fake token sellers have targeted Kick.com as well. Random blue badge verified Twitter account has mentioned me in a tweet where they are trying to sell fake KICK token. I have also received mention from random twitter account about the Stake and Roobet token sell. The scammers activity has increased significantly in the recent days, and they are targeting the users of top crypto gambling sites.

I know it's a bad thing to be a scammer but you also need to somehow give props to these people how fast they are reacting and trying to take advantage of a situation, it's crazy.
The wallet hack was only some hours old and they already sent emails regarding this matter adding some phishing links. I wonder if it's the same people that made the initial hack or just a unrelated group.
Same with the token and stuff, they become more inventive day by day.

I sincerely hope nobody lost money because of these scammers, their work gets more sophisticated day by day.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on September 07, 2023, 11:20:51 AM

My Twitter got tagged.
But not from directly a fake Twitter account, the tag using a normal account to the scammer account. It's not just (Stake) currently I just got for (ROO) token fake sale on Roobet-Casino. They scraped the follower data and botting the tag to fake twitter.

Those fake token sellers have targeted Kick.com as well. Random blue badge verified Twitter account has mentioned me in a tweet where they are trying to sell fake KICK token. I have also received mention from random twitter account about the Stake and Roobet token sell. The scammers activity has increased significantly in the recent days, and they are targeting the users of top crypto gambling sites.

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The latest news or rather an update I just saw in one of the news channel I am following on telegram said that the FBI says North Korean hackers 'Lazarus Group' are behind Stake․com's $41 million crypto theft.

I don't know how true this is since there is no reference link or site attached to the news yet ..

But my question now is, if this supposedly turns out to be true, is there any chance of stake getting that money back?, Since the group behind the hack has been uncovered or discovered ?

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 07, 2023, 11:42:53 AM

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People still can fall to the scam.

Why ? because the scammer bought a gold verified for (company) for 1000$/month. I believe people still falling to these trap, since the scammer is put some effort to buy the badge business company.

If they not bought these, I don't think people can falling to these trap.

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Quote from: o48o on September 05, 2023, 06:34:01 AM

Just in comparison: Stake made around $2.6 billion in revenue in 2022. $40M is 1.5% from that. I am sure that they didn't even need to open their emergency fund for this

So it's not a problem when one puts things in a perpective.

2.6 billion dollars revenue is not a net profit, they have a lot of expenses besides that, including office rent, salaries that they have to give employees, marketing budget, salary for CEO(s), servers, datacenters, new infrastructure, etc. It looks like a big number but is not so big when you dedicate all the expenses but definitely still their profit is pretty huge and I assume 40 million dollar is not a huge deal for them.

Quote from: xLays on September 05, 2023, 07:29:27 AM

Someone is using the current situation to benefit themselves. Check out this Twitter account with the gold checkmark verification. https://twitter.com/StakeRefund

This post is a complete scam. Don't be deceived by it.

Tons of scammers are using the current situation to scam people. One of the very first was StakeAlerts that also has a gold badge. As twitter says, Gold Badge is given to businesses that are verified by Twitter and wonder how were these profiles able to get gold badge when they wouldn't be able to prove the ownership of Stake. Is twitter really so careless today?

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Quote from: ryzaadit on September 07, 2023, 04:11:41 AM

Seem like the scammer is not only send a grid message to a leaked address email.

But they actually target followers from stake as well, I suggested everyone who is quite active in twitter (X) and your account follow (Stake.com) twitter. You will getting tags by some random account to a scammer twitter stake fake.
- Refund
- Seeling stake token

Beware, they tag you on twitter based on the follower stake list.

Yes, yesterday I got that my account was flagged for claiming a refund from fake Stake Twitter, unfortunately I have blocked them, actually there are lots of fraudsters like that everywhere on x.com, not just casinos but other airdrop projects are also there, what's great is that they spend money on get the same blue and gold tick as the original account, but I'm sure people who are smart enough to know what they should do.

I think they will never succeed but even so it must be reminded that it is best to pay attention to the x.com username which indicates whether it belongs to the official Stake or not, because I can just see from the number of followers, if it's only a few it means it's not the original x.com Stake account but fake one. I thought I was the only one who often got this sign, but it turns out there were a lot of them Grin

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 07, 2023, 10:29:24 AM

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My Twitter got tagged.

But not from directly a fake Twitter account, the tag using a normal account to the scammer account. It's not just (Stake) currently I just got for (ROO) token fake sale on Roobet-Casino. They scraped the follower data and botting the tag to fake twitter.

I think, this case is not just on (Stake) as well but every famous casino. I believe soon we are gonna to see more like from (Duelbits) and other.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on September 07, 2023, 04:11:41 AM

Seem like the scammer is not only send a grid message to a leaked address email.

But they actually target followers from stake as well, I suggested everyone who is quite active in twitter (X) and your account follow (Stake.com) twitter. You will getting tags by some random account to a scammer twitter stake fake.
- Refund
- Seeling stake token

Beware, they tag you on twitter based on the follower stake list.

I followed X's account but luckily I'm not that active in twitter and I turn my X application's notification off so I will only open X whenever I wish and I will not be distracted with any notification.
Another luck is that I just opened my X account and I do not find any tag related to the scam, perhaps because all the scammer's account has been reported and removed by X.
It is obvious that we should always careful with social media and any other online places, too many scammers out there who want to steal money.
We should responsible for ourselves by avoiding something that looks suspicious or too good to be true and not by clicking unknown link in the social media.

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Seem like the scammer is not only send a grid message to a leaked address email.

But they actually target followers from stake as well, I suggested everyone who is quite active in twitter (X) and your account follow (Stake.com) twitter. You will getting tags by some random account to a scammer twitter stake fake.
- Refund
- Seeling stake token

Beware, they tag you on twitter based on the follower stake list.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 06, 2023, 12:10:48 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 05, 2023, 07:27:41 AM

Quote from: o48o on September 05, 2023, 06:34:01 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 05, 2023, 05:45:30 AM

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What's mind-disturbing is Stake is pretending like everything is fine when nothing is fine, their tweet on Twitter is nonsense and they are receiving negative responses from their customers already.
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This could be end for smaller casinos, but i think it's hard for people to grasp the size of stake and amount of volume that goes trough stake.

Just in comparison: Stake made around $2.6 billion in revenue in 2022. $40M is 1.5% from that. I am sure that they didn't even need to open their emergency fund for this

So it's not a problem when one puts things in a perpective.

I think it's a very competitive business so to see a big casino having hacking problems and losing money will make a lot of people working from other casinos come to discuss the problem as if it's a very big case, even though it has been explained that all funds are safe and I think indeed people who come to this thread discuss that they don't see how Stake spends money on promotions and campaigns alone maybe very big, so why are they getting busy here because of this problem, I'm sure this problem will be the right material to drop Stakes. but that's in vain

Maybe if it's a small casino I'm sure the casino will go bankrupt and won't operate anymore, they probably don't know Stake that much or have never visited Stake, so I'm just the one laughing in the back when people discuss this hack like it's a big deal while Stake's side already said that all users' money is safe, as you said it is not worth it Grin

@piebeyb I was reading my daily news sites when I saw this news there and after confirming I was shocked but equally happy that Stake decided to immediately open the withdrawals and continue business like usual which proves what a solid team they have in the background. Furthermore I see nothing wrong with their tweet because when they have the funds to run their business as usual why panic and at this stage I feel that we should do our best to support them and pray that they recover their fund’s asap.

That one is to prove that no funds of users got affected by recent hacking and its good since it can erase the fear of people thinking that they might also be included to the recent attack happened to them. But since now the withdrawals are open I guess its time for users to go back on their normal activity since for sure Stake could easily recover with their recent losses since they still have a lot of money to fund their casino and to use for marketing.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 04, 2023, 03:11:23 AM

I think Eddie gave a short explanation a while ago... where he said that a base amount are paid per VIP rank and then also based on what you played and how much you played. The Stake original games count the least towards the bonus and then the 3rd party slots and then the Sports betting counting the most.

They are not giving the exact formula, because they do not want players only to play the games that count the most towards wagering. (It is structured in a way that if you lose more, you get a bigger bonus.... but just slightly) Roll Eyes

There is this estimate on how it happens that much is known but there is no known formula, that is the tough one. Like you do not know how much of it is betting this month, and how much is the VIP rank and what happens if you bet this much but then stop etc etc. Basically we do not have the exact amounts. Nobody knows how much they are going to get, and there isn't a way to make that calculation beforehand while you are gambling.

This results with you ending up with just some estimate if you could. I believe that we are going to see something much better on the long run and it should be important to just move on and not really care what will be the income and just hope that it goes as well as hoped for in the end.

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I just back from vacation and saw these happening.

I'm not to worried about the the loss incident since this is not wipe out any user account balance. The lost only 40M$ which mean, while they can pay 100M$/person for deal (Kicks) 40 it's just a small from my perspective.

The bankroll are still safe, just need to discovery where is the leak bug/breach.

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 05, 2023, 07:27:41 AM

Quote from: o48o on September 05, 2023, 06:34:01 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 05, 2023, 05:45:30 AM

-cut-
What's mind-disturbing is Stake is pretending like everything is fine when nothing is fine, their tweet on Twitter is nonsense and they are receiving negative responses from their customers already.
-cut-

This could be end for smaller casinos, but i think it's hard for people to grasp the size of stake and amount of volume that goes trough stake.

Just in comparison: Stake made around $2.6 billion in revenue in 2022. $40M is 1.5% from that. I am sure that they didn't even need to open their emergency fund for this

So it's not a problem when one puts things in a perpective.

I think it's a very competitive business so to see a big casino having hacking problems and losing money will make a lot of people working from other casinos come to discuss the problem as if it's a very big case, even though it has been explained that all funds are safe and I think indeed people who come to this thread discuss that they don't see how Stake spends money on promotions and campaigns alone maybe very big, so why are they getting busy here because of this problem, I'm sure this problem will be the right material to drop Stakes. but that's in vain

Maybe if it's a small casino I'm sure the casino will go bankrupt and won't operate anymore, they probably don't know Stake that much or have never visited Stake, so I'm just the one laughing in the back when people discuss this hack like it's a big deal while Stake's side already said that all users' money is safe, as you said it is not worth it Grin

@piebeyb I was reading my daily news sites when I saw this news there and after confirming I was shocked but equally happy that Stake decided to immediately open the withdrawals and continue business like usual which proves what a solid team they have in the background. Furthermore I see nothing wrong with their tweet because when they have the funds to run their business as usual why panic and at this stage I feel that we should do our best to support them and pray that they recover their fund’s asap.

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Quote from: Odusko on September 05, 2023, 05:09:43 PM

Quote from: notblox1 on September 05, 2023, 04:45:15 PM

Why is nobody from Stake official accounts talking about this mega hack?! Where is Stunna or some other Stake guys?
Maybe manager of Stake campaign can talk with them and tell them to get back more activity in bitcointalk forum.
Better dont keep coins on gambling websites and exchanges guys, you see how easy is to lose millions in crypto.

I believe stake will make public announcement about the hack like they have already done on X and with the way things are we should be fine with that and respect their privacy if they decide not to make an official forum announcement about the hack since no customer money was stolen and the halted features like withdrawal on the Binance smart chain have been restored, so for that its all good and stake can take the time to properly audit and put measures in place that will protect their wallet from future attacks.
We will only panic if the unauthorized withdrawal was done on the customer's balance, but since it is a hot wallet it makes it easy for the stake team to quickly put things in order and move on as if nothing happened or decide not to make noise about it.

They handle the recent hacking very well but they need to announce this incident on their public channels and not only on X to formalize all things and make people know about recent updates. But guess their supporters already share the news here so I guess they already settle with current situation and they focus to investigate on the case where hacker stole some balance to their own wallet. This is unfortunate but since it already happen best for stake to secure their site more avoid the same issue in future.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 05, 2023, 03:04:24 AM

Simple answer, October/November 2022 hack. All email addresses stolen. I got several promotion (from other sites) and scam attempt emails to my address which is only registered at stake, never used anywhere else.

AFAIK, all email addresses weren't stolen for the Stake sendgrid email leak. I haven't received any spam or phishing email related to Stake from unknown sources on my Stake account email address. Some other forum members had also confirmed that they didn't receive any phishing email after the sendgrid email leak.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 05, 2023, 04:45:15 PM

Why is nobody from Stake official accounts talking about this mega hack?! Where is Stunna or some other Stake guys?
Maybe manager of Stake campaign can talk with them and tell them to get back more activity in bitcointalk forum.
Better dont keep coins on gambling websites and exchanges guys, you see how easy is to lose millions in crypto.

I believe stake will make public announcement about the hack like they have already done on X and with the way things are we should be fine with that and respect their privacy if they decide not to make an official forum announcement about the hack since no customer money was stolen and the halted features like withdrawal on the Binance smart chain have been restored, so for that its all good and stake can take the time to properly audit and put measures in place that will protect their wallet from future attacks.
We will only panic if the unauthorized withdrawal was done on the customer's balance, but since it is a hot wallet it makes it easy for the stake team to quickly put things in order and move on as if nothing happened or decide not to make noise about it.

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