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Quote from: mu_enrico on October 06, 2020, 07:48:16 PM

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I said animations do not mean anything because you said limbo was like imageless slot, that is why I said animations mean nothing, images mean nothing it is just something that is done in blockchain and it gets the results and after that you get the animation, that is why I said animations do not affect the result.

At the end of the day you obviously know this but I just wanted to make sure others read yours and after that read mine and if they didn't know they would learn thanks to it, not for you but just "fyi" for others who may not know.

Slots do have a high house edge but they are also a very rewarding game when you win with such small amount of possibilities so your small chance of win there could end up covering hours of loss with one lucky pull, that is why the house edge is high I assume.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 07, 2020, 06:50:16 AM

Hey Stunna.. Just wondering. With your UFC props, is the 'win via KO' really 'win via KO/TKO'? Cos there's actually a difference between winning via KO and winning via TKO.

But the odds from the past events did show that it's via KO/TKO. I know it's minor but it's prolly better to specify KO/TKO to avoid future issues about it.. Thanks.

I have made lots of bets and yes to win via KO means it also counts TKO too as I have seen a lot of time ref stops the fight and they settle those bets as win so yeah means the same. In general too, KO and TKO are always counted as same usually on fiat bookmakers too.

I bet at stake only for UFC events because they actually have the best odds for minor markets like - To win via submission, round betting and almost all other markets they offer way better odds than sportsbet.io (all respect to SB but that's true)

On top of that they offer refund if the fighter we picked for win loses via spit decision and we all know how judges can make a mess of fight at times and give some horrible decisions. guys if you haven't checked their UFC promo do check it, worth because I have got a few refunds when fight ended with a split decision.

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Quote from: Betwrong on October 07, 2020, 04:18:05 AM

and it became clear that what you really want is a game, where you can randomly win with various multipliers, sometimes with very big ones, but without a target set in advance. Basically, you want slots, but with much lower house edge.

Correct again sir, basically just put a penny in the "black box" and watch the number goes up or rekt (0x).

Quote from: Betwrong on October 07, 2020, 04:18:05 AM

The thing is that the house edge on slots is so high not because game providers or site owners are so greedy, or something, but rather because, considering possible unexpected big payouts, running slots would be too risky for site owners, and they would go bust one after another, if the payouts were the same, but the house edge was 1%.

I think it's because of the graphics, music, and animations that made slots expensive. That's why maybe removing the unnecessary fun parts could result in significantly lower production costs, and therefore, significantly lower HE.

Quote from: ralle14 on October 07, 2020, 06:54:24 AM

If you can't set the target payout then that means the payouts have to be fixed. Right? kind of similar to the other games like plinko, keno, wheel and mines.

Kind of like wheel and plinko, but with more payout range, let's say 0 - 5,000x.

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Quote from: ralle14 on October 07, 2020, 06:54:24 AM

If you can't set the target payout then that means the payouts have to be fixed. Right? kind of similar to the other games like plinko, keno, wheel and mines.

It would be interesting to see a very low edge slot since the lowest one i've seen was probably 1.9%.

Being able to set the payout of a game implies that you can control the game's difficulty, as in changing the probability for Dice or the bar for Plinko. Even blackjack's difficulty can be somewhat gauged by hitting and standing.

If you can't change the difficulty that means it either starts low and progresses higher until you cash out, examples being HiLo, Crash, and Mines, or there's a fixed probability of you winning or losing, with no difficulty, e.g. Wheel and Slots.

Crash in auto mode behaves like Slots and I tend to avoid it as the autobetter takes the reins away from you completely. It's only good for playing 2-3 games in a row if you spot any patterns to take advantage of.

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If you can't set the target payout then that means the payouts have to be fixed. Right? kind of similar to the other games like plinko, keno, wheel and mines.

It would be interesting to see a very low edge slot since the lowest one i've seen was probably 1.9%.

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Hey Stunna.. Just wondering. With your UFC props, is the 'win via KO' really 'win via KO/TKO'? Cos there's actually a difference between winning via KO and winning via TKO.

But the odds from the past events did show that it's via KO/TKO. I know it's minor but it's prolly better to specify KO/TKO to avoid future issues about it.. Thanks.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on October 06, 2020, 07:48:16 PM

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No seriously, people are free to choose what game they want to play, and each person has his own preference (no need to shill dice lol). I just tried the Limbo and imagine if the multiplier can be materialized without a target.

To me Limbo is like Crash, only faster, because it's not a multiplayer game, and, also, it's more like Crash in the Auto mode, because the target is set, and you can't cash out earlier. At first I thought that you were suggesting something like Crash, but without a target, meaning, like basic Crash game, with the opportunity of cashing out whenever you like. But then I reread your previous post,

Quote from: mu_enrico on October 06, 2020, 06:15:43 AM

Guys, since you like numbers, what do you think about a game like Limbo, but without target payout. It's like an image-less slot with 1% HE and provably fair.
You know, slots are fantastic but the HE is too much Cry

and it became clear that what you really want is a game, where you can randomly win with various multipliers, sometimes with very big ones, but without a target set in advance. Basically, you want slots, but with much lower house edge.

The thing is that the house edge on slots is so high not because game providers or site owners are so greedy, or something, but rather because, considering possible unexpected big payouts, running slots would be too risky for site owners, and they would go bust one after another, if the payouts were the same, but the house edge was 1%.

That's what I personally think, but I wouldn't mind seeing other opinions.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on October 06, 2020, 10:49:20 AM

When you consider something like a slot game or any other game where there is animation, do not be fooled to think that animation is somehow is representation of how the result is picked, the result is picked behind the scenes in blockchain provably fair method and when the result is decided the animations mimics what the result is, not the other way around.

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Quote from: barbara44 on October 06, 2020, 12:07:15 PM

Dice is still better for me, it is the OG game

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Quote from: tbterryboy on October 06, 2020, 10:49:20 AM

It would be really boring if you clicked something and bunch of random numbers and letters came up and you had to figure out the result

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No seriously, people are free to choose what game they want to play, and each person has his own preference (no need to shill dice lol). I just tried the Limbo and imagine if the multiplier can be materialized without a target.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on October 06, 2020, 10:49:20 AM

When you consider something like a slot game or any other game where there is animation, do not be fooled to think that animation is somehow is representation of how the result is picked, the result is picked behind the scenes in blockchain provably fair method and when the result is decided the animations mimics what the result is, not the other way around.

Only gullible gamblers would believe that animations and effects have something to do with the overall outcome of a game. For example, I know some gamblers who used to think that lag in certain areas of a roulette table implies that the ball will fall in that same area in the upcoming rounds.

They actually won several times using the strategy in different sites and advocate that this is a fail-proof strategy to this day which made me laugh on so many occasions.

Some gamblers will believe anything in order to earn profit and this is how they end up going crazy.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on October 06, 2020, 06:15:43 AM

slots are fantastic but the HE is too much Cry

Dice is still better for me, it is the OG game and I will always like it, it is also both together as a community but also stand alone by yourself at the same time as well, it is a great deal. It is a together thing because there is chat and you can talk to people about your dice games and they may see it on the history part as well if you look at recents or maybe you are a high roller, but also just chat about anything, the chat there is not strictly gambling, people talk about everything in general there.

However it is also great for stand alone because you are not playing with anyone at the same time, so all those 1.00 and so forth constant things are really not that big of a deal, since you can arrange your own betting however you want and the game waits for you instead of continues without you.

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When you consider something like a slot game or any other game where there is animation, do not be fooled to think that animation is somehow is representation of how the result is picked, the result is picked behind the scenes in blockchain provably fair method and when the result is decided the animations mimics what the result is, not the other way around.

So, even if you click and get a result but the animation doesn't even move because there is some bug, do not be worried because result is not decided via the animation, it is there only for marketing and design reasons in order to keep people looking at that. It would be really boring if you clicked something and bunch of random numbers and letters came up and you had to figure out the result, hence why this more fun method was invented.

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Guys, since you like numbers, what do you think about a game like Limbo, but without target payout. It's like an image-less slot with 1% HE and provably fair.
You know, slots are fantastic but the HE is too much Cry

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Quote from: NotATether on October 02, 2020, 12:46:47 PM

I second this. Crash is the main game I play on Stake, if you ever happen to hang around on the page you might see my name in the players' list, and not having a functional history of provably fair games is super annoying because Crash is fast paced and it's not going to wait for me while I open a new tab or refresh the page. My strategy depends on paying attention to each consecutive game in realtime and the network overhead for loading the entire page is too long and my next game could have a multiplier <1.30 and stuff and I'll miss the streak.

With a history page that's frozen in time I can only analyze games that happened before I arrive but not the ones I played. Fortunately I have a good memory that remembers the last few multipliers so this isn't a fatal problem, just an inconvenient one so if you're not going to update the History automatically, at least put an Update button there so we can click on it manually.

Don't you guys hate it when the rocket crashes at 1.00? It's like, we're all just at the beginning and we already lost.

Yeah, but the weird thing "Slide" games was really updating auto without need to be refresh first for the page. That's why really confused when comparing both of these game have history game but crash history not really automatically.

x1.00 still usual for me, did you have an experience playing crash and crashes at x0.00 ~LOOL. My self got this and the shit thing got x0.00 2 times in a row imagine that's, so shit. I know x0.00 crashes experience not in stake, but there has more worst than x1.00 ~XD.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 03, 2020, 02:09:54 PM

Lately I got many times "Service error disable" or something similar.

I confirm this issue happened along with other error messages, plus sometimes all games, balance, data cannot load. It stopped me playing like five or ten minutes.

Anyways, I think the delay is pretty common in slots as I have got the same experience on PnG, Netent, and way worse on small providers. Online gaming is booming atm, so they often hit the capacity ceiling.

Some of the errors are minor as Eddie said during his last Streaming session and can just be ignored. In some cases some of these errors lock up the chat and/or stop the bet logs and that is a major issue for some of the gamblers. (You want to brag about your winnings in the chat screen and socialize with the other gamblers)

Eddie also said the site was not initially developed for such large volumes and I think the addition of the 3rd party games only added to the problems.

I hope they resolve it quickly, because many people are complaining in the chat area and some wants to leave. Sad

Yes, as per today's information on telegram channel. The problem is not as simple as upgrading the server, seems that it is more complicated than just about server.
There is no more error in the last few hours, so I guess it has been already fixed or at least they did something to minimize the error.
Hopefully there will be no more errors as it is a bit annoying when we get the errors while we were playing on the site.

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Quote from: Betwrong on October 05, 2020, 07:01:40 AM

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I imagine you'd have to keep the range very narrow for several dozen losing bets before you finally roll a dice within the range. The trouble with doing that is that all too often, at each bet people aren't sure whether they'll win or not so their wagers are completely arbitrary, so one might wager 10 sats for a few games they think they will lose on, but then they win but their multiplier is wasted on such a small wager.

Then there's also people who'd wager big money when they are sure it will roll inside the range, but then it doesn't and they get burned and have to stop playing.

Anyway, contgrats on your rare win, 999x odds is really big reward. Too bad it was only 0.02 ETH, that bet could've easily returned 0.2 or 2 ETH

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Quote from: mu_enrico on October 05, 2020, 12:23:19 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on October 03, 2020, 02:09:54 PM

Lately I got many times "Service error disable" or something similar.

I confirm this issue happened along with other error messages, plus sometimes all games, balance, data cannot load. It stopped me playing like five or ten minutes.

Anyways, I think the delay is pretty common in slots as I have got the same experience on PnG, Netent, and way worse on small providers. Online gaming is booming atm, so they often hit the capacity ceiling.

Some of the errors are minor as Eddie said during his last Streaming session and can just be ignored. In some cases some of these errors lock up the chat and/or stop the bet logs and that is a major issue for some of the gamblers. (You want to brag about your winnings in the chat screen and socialize with the other gamblers)

Eddie also said the site was not initially developed for such large volumes and I think the addition of the 3rd party games only added to the problems.

I hope they resolve it quickly, because many people are complaining in the chat area and some wants to leave. Sad

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