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legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
Believe GAW and buy their new HashStakers. You pay $10 for 3 months of 1 Paycoin staking (you also have to buy the paycoin). So you pay them to hold your money after you get done buying their stuff with other money. I mean you might as well seeing as how you're going to 5x your money overnight by getting their Paycoins. Seems legit doesn't it?

Too good to be true  Wink
member
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I have some suspicions, just saying all of you buy/sell in hashlet market just making Josh richer. Due to reason, he is signing agreement with all parts of that operation NDA preventing firms exposing themselves. Time to time, he is making announcements and re stabilize the price and let the trolls handle rest.

And I assure you, He has no place to escape no place to hide. His customer is from all over the world. We are talking about 200k+ customers don't be fool. This is too big to crash. By the way thanks all of you for making situation more profitable for all parts of that equation the price of primes will drop until Friday, and I am expecting an announcement from Josh after.

By the way, this guy have fan club in both Brazil and Russia please eliminate those two countries from list

Will the NDA last forever like a secret society funding the savior our paycoin? Josh will keep this NDA statement going for a long time since releasing information about partners puts him in the spotlight of a direct claim. I'm pretty certain the end game result is the death of paycoin... though it'll aim to be an orchestrated death. His aim is to ensure that the high rollers don't lose money as big losers = painful investigations. He needs to slam all the sales in BTC and have it go through coin mixers then stash it somewhere... orchestrate paycoins decline and failure and blame on things outside his control. The focus is removed from the mining operation that was dodgy (he's already at the phase out mining and migrate people to an ecosystem in paycoin he completely controls). Basically i hope a group gets an look into his operations before it progresses too far along. As it is now i'll wager he has nothing to show hence them lack of evidence and transparency.

It'll go down in the next 6 months. Paycoin has to come out in the next month. When people keep spending and don't see cash back in any form they tend to lose tolerance.
legendary
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You do not sound so sure of your self, allow me for your future reference, just in case:

1. http://www.cantor.com/sales_and_trading/advisory_group

or

2. http://kncclassaction.com/

full member
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Merit: 100
I have some suspicions, just saying all of you buy/sell in hashlet market just making Josh richer. Due to reason, he is signing agreement with all parts of that operation NDA preventing firms exposing themselves. Time to time, he is making announcements and re stabilize the price and let the trolls handle rest.

And I assure you, He has no place to escape no place to hide. His customer is from all over the world. We are talking about 200k+ customers don't be fool. This is too big to crash. By the way thanks all of you for making situation more profitable for all parts of that equation the price of primes will drop until Friday, and I am expecting an announcement from Josh after.

By the way, this guy have fan club in both Brazil and Russia please eliminate those two countries from list
hero member
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I guess it is not recommended to trust just anything on the internet, especially something that is not backed by solid evidence and argumentation.

I bet they will be scamming your grandmother and your dog too in a couple of weeks. As some people are trying to say on this forum. Next GAW will scam whole world and then Josh will escape to Russia to hang out with his pal Vladimir.

Moral of the story. Do not always listen to people spreading FUD over and over again. Just wait a see for yourself.

Why are you still using these accounts after being exposed for using 4 shill accounts to promote GAW?

Just create/buy a new account and try not to screw up this time.
legendary
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Why don't you go and ask these poor bastards what exactly was said instead of lording here pretending he never did state that Walmart Amazon and Target were partners already on board:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16399/some-thoughts-on-merchant-adoption


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so you dont have amazon, walmart and target lined up to accept hashcoin, bummer

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So, basically, there is no big merchant adoption like the one that has been advertised.

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As an end user, I was already under the assumption that major merchant adoption was in place by previous statements. It now looks to be very different in scope. I would just caution to be very careful in wording you commitments towards your Customer base. Misleading statements will break the trust barrier and it is hard win those folks back into the circle.


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hmmm...I thought you had big merchants ready to go and I thought you had purchased a better name than Hashcoin...im kinda confused at this point...


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Agreed. I too am confused on some points. Now it sounds like he still needs to get merchants on board whereas he seemed to outright say that 4 big names were completely on board already
legendary
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Okay so he backtracked. If he is scamming then he has already scammed for a lot of money (probably in the 7 or 8 digits worth of US dollars of bitcoin). I don't think he will do very much more damage in the few weeks (?) that it will be until paycoin actually launches.

I bet they will be scamming your grandmother and your dog too in a couple of weeks. As some people are trying to say on this forum. Next GAW will scam whole world and then Josh will escape to Russia to hang out with his pal Vladimir.

Moral of the story. Do not always listen to people spreading FUD over and over again. Just wait a see for yourself.
hero member
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GainerCoin.com 🔥 Masternode coin 🔥
Here's definitive proof supporting Coinfire's claims:

https://twitter.com/danielpalacio/status/537250571875790849

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@danielpalacio Hello, Daniel. Could you verify to me whether or not you told CoinSource that Authy does not release customer traffic data?

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@OnwardsImmortal Yes. We do not release data about our customers.
I don't think this is "definitive proof" about coinfire's claims. It only confirms that one small fact is correct, but does not confirm the conclusion.

It is my understanding that paycoin will be released soon speculators will be able to see if if gaw really does have any merchants lined up.

I have no idea either way, but I certainly do know that it is not certain either way

Josh is an expert at back tracking. When questioned about media blitz he said idk what slots they'll get into. I learned to only announce once it's confirmed. paycoins set to exceed $20!! Aka we only had paid pr articles. But his sheep suck his cock anyway.
Okay so he backtracked. If he is scamming then he has already scammed for a lot of money (probably in the 7 or 8 digits worth of US dollars of bitcoin). I don't think he will do very much more damage in the few weeks (?) that it will be until paycoin actually launches.
legendary
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Here's definitive proof supporting Coinfire's claims:

https://twitter.com/danielpalacio/status/537250571875790849

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@danielpalacio Hello, Daniel. Could you verify to me whether or not you told CoinSource that Authy does not release customer traffic data?

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@OnwardsImmortal Yes. We do not release data about our customers.
I don't think this is "definitive proof" about coinfire's claims. It only confirms that one small fact is correct, but does not confirm the conclusion.

It is my understanding that paycoin will be released soon speculators will be able to see if if gaw really does have any merchants lined up.

I have no idea either way, but I certainly do know that it is not certain either way

Josh is an expert at back tracking. When questioned about media blitz he said idk what slots they'll get into. I learned to only announce once it's confirmed. paycoins set to exceed $20!! Aka we only had paid pr articles. But his sheep suck his cock anyway.
hero member
Activity: 647
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GainerCoin.com 🔥 Masternode coin 🔥
Here's definitive proof supporting Coinfire's claims:

https://twitter.com/danielpalacio/status/537250571875790849

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@danielpalacio Hello, Daniel. Could you verify to me whether or not you told CoinSource that Authy does not release customer traffic data?

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@OnwardsImmortal Yes. We do not release data about our customers.
I don't think this is "definitive proof" about coinfire's claims. It only confirms that one small fact is correct, but does not confirm the conclusion.

It is my understanding that paycoin will be released soon speculators will be able to see if if gaw really does have any merchants lined up.

I have no idea either way, but I certainly do know that it is not certain either way
legendary
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PayCoin is a confirmed fraudulent ponzi. Current victims are trying to promote it in hopes they can exit. GAW is trying to con people interested in Bitcoin by selling them fake PayCoins. They announced several interviews, however they were all just paid PR articles. PayCoin is selling at $4 and promising $20 value. This is called securities fraud. Stuart Fraser , Vice Chairman and Partner, Cantor Fitzgerald is not involved. They are trying to fake involvement of many companies and individuals such as Stuart Fraser, Amazon, Walmart, Target and PayPal. If you are interested in Bitcoin, get it from a reputable source such as Coinbase or Circle. Do not fall victim to Bitcoin clones.
legendary
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Here's definitive proof supporting Coinfire's claims:

https://twitter.com/danielpalacio/status/537250571875790849

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@danielpalacio Hello, Daniel. Could you verify to me whether or not you told CoinSource that Authy does not release customer traffic data?

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@OnwardsImmortal Yes. We do not release data about our customers.


great proof, i have always doubt GAW ever since that mr CEO keep on spewing promises

i heard it once in texas conference  that mr CEO will lower the fees, but i still see $0.08/mh till now  Wink
hero member
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Here's definitive proof supporting Coinfire's claims:

https://twitter.com/danielpalacio/status/537250571875790849

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@danielpalacio Hello, Daniel. Could you verify to me whether or not you told CoinSource that Authy does not release customer traffic data?

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@OnwardsImmortal Yes. We do not release data about our customers.
hero member
Activity: 770
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Recently the CEO of GAW Miners claimed publicly that the company and he personally have sealed up partnerships and deals with Target, Amazon, and Walmart about the coin and the company.
( -> not a single proof about that claim. )
Coin Fire has learned these recent claims are stretching the truth or outright lies.


And what proof has coinfire provided to support this claim? I haven't seen a proof of the CEO saying this.


You have seen proof but you simply ignored it because it didn't fit your agenda.

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time, so now I have to mind my P's and Q

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16853/all-is-well-in-the-land

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I have seen a few posts asking about our coin being accepted at larger merchants. Everything is still on track. I have had to change some of my wording as to not create issues with the MNDAs we have in place.

Short summary:
We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/17485/large-merchants

There's no "my agenda" but judging by the number of posts about GAW you're producing, you clearly have one.
In the posts you linked there's nothing about a "sealed up partnerships with Amazon et al." Find me a solid proof and I won't deny it.

I post about GAW often (the entertainment value is great) however you rarely post about anything other than GAW.

Those quotes from the CEO are in response to Coinfire's claims that the partnerships don't exist. There were no other partnership rumors at the time.

What other "large merchant partnerships" do you think Mr. CEO could possibly be talking about? Why has Mr CEO never once said the partnerships don't/never existed? Why does he keep saying things like "I can't clarify because of an NDA" and "Walmart/Target would never tell this info to a news site with such a low alexa rating"?

Cognitive dissonance is bad for your health.
hero member
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There's no "my agenda" but judging by the number of posts about GAW you're producing, you clearly have one.
In the posts you linked there's nothing about a "sealed up partnerships with Amazon et al." Find me a solid proof and I won't deny it.

How many times does this have to be repeated....there is absolutely no evidence that josh literally said :
"sealed up partnerships with Amazon et al."
Just because coinfire.cf exaggerated their claims doesn't take away from the other concerns being presented.

There's no "my agenda"

Of course, you are biased and have an agenda.
You are employed by GAWminers ... at least as an affiliate. This is a conflict of interest and your opinions about GAW should be treated with skepticism.




hero member
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Small Red and Bad
Recently the CEO of GAW Miners claimed publicly that the company and he personally have sealed up partnerships and deals with Target, Amazon, and Walmart about the coin and the company.
( -> not a single proof about that claim. )
Coin Fire has learned these recent claims are stretching the truth or outright lies.


And what proof has coinfire provided to support this claim? I haven't seen a proof of the CEO saying this.


You have seen proof but you simply ignored it because it didn't fit your agenda.

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time, so now I have to mind my P's and Q

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16853/all-is-well-in-the-land

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I have seen a few posts asking about our coin being accepted at larger merchants. Everything is still on track. I have had to change some of my wording as to not create issues with the MNDAs we have in place.

Short summary:
We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/17485/large-merchants

There's no "my agenda" but judging by the number of posts about GAW you're producing, you clearly have one.
In the posts you linked there's nothing about a "sealed up partnerships with Amazon et al." Find me a solid proof and I won't deny it.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 509
Recently the CEO of GAW Miners claimed publicly that the company and he personally have sealed up partnerships and deals with Target, Amazon, and Walmart about the coin and the company.
( -> not a single proof about that claim. )
Coin Fire has learned these recent claims are stretching the truth or outright lies.


And what proof has coinfire provided to support this claim? I haven't seen a proof of the CEO saying this.


You have seen proof but you simply ignored it because it didn't fit your agenda.

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time, so now I have to mind my P's and Q

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16853/all-is-well-in-the-land

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I have seen a few posts asking about our coin being accepted at larger merchants. Everything is still on track. I have had to change some of my wording as to not create issues with the MNDAs we have in place.

Short summary:
We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/17485/large-merchants
sr. member
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I saw it myself he 100% said he had established relationships with Walmart, Target and Amazon and you would be able to spend paycoin directly with them. Clearly it has been deleted, but their forum is riddled with bewildered responses after the fact about this.
Doesn't really matter he is a liar and a scammer.  It isn't a "mistake" or an "exaggeration" it is intentional deceit to get people on board, and once onboard, declare whoops my bad. What I really meant was...
You do not make a critical mistake such as this and historically with his MO by trying to slime Cantor Fitzgerald into the picture -- when they are not -- is confirmation of his devious ways.
Simply put he is a what is commonly known as a piece of shit.

So there's no proof and we should forget about it and take your word for it? Maybe I would believe you if you weren't so emotional about them with this whole liar and scammer thing.
Did he scam you? If not, it means the real liar is you.


This is true. And also its not about one statement. Do you think i would open this thread because of that statement? No way. Look at page one (summary).

What is true? That there's no proof? Yeah we know Smiley
hero member
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Believe GAW and buy their new HashStakers. You pay $10 for 3 months of 1 Paycoin staking (you also have to buy the paycoin). So you pay them to hold your money after you get done buying their stuff with other money. I mean you might as well seeing as how you're going to 5x your money overnight by getting their Paycoins. Seems legit doesn't it?
full member
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It's sad to see how calompanies like these hurt bitcoins reputation
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