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Topic: ███ Stay away from GAWminers.com / Paycoin / Paybase - Mineral - SCAM ! ███ - page 13. (Read 38271 times)

legendary
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jmordica's Mining Statement: http://youtu.be/ZY284WtOd9A

That video was two and a half minutes I'll never get back. Two guys jawboning over a videolink, smiling at each other and smirking while they seemingly watch a guy's ass in a darkened datacentre... whatever this clip purports to prove has obviously remained elusive Huh  Angry

A complete waste of time. If this video is any reflection on the calibre of the participants involved then the only thing I'd say is, "Seek alternatives".



 Sad






Haha the ass was extra funny

Remember that neobee guy cam back to make fun of the victims

Just remember that neobee was a scam all along and he came back to laugh at everyone who believed him

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2dbn57/whats_mark_karpeles_doing_today_whats_danny/cjnziyl


Mark and the other scammers could make a new company: MtgoxNeo-Miners.com


@darkangel11

i think your account is fake too  Wink
legendary
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What else ,All cloud mining project could be a ponzi scam, always invest that you can afford to lose.
legendary
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jmordica's Mining Statement: http://youtu.be/ZY284WtOd9A

That video was two and a half minutes I'll never get back. Two guys jawboning over a videolink, smiling at each other and smirking while they seemingly watch a guy's ass in a darkened datacentre... whatever this clip purports to prove has obviously remained elusive Huh  Angry

A complete waste of time. If this video is any reflection on the calibre of the participants involved then the only thing I'd say is, "Seek alternatives".



 Sad






Haha the ass was extra funny

Remember that neobee guy cam back to make fun of the victims

Just remember that neobee was a scam all along and he came back to laugh at everyone who believed him

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2dbn57/whats_mark_karpeles_doing_today_whats_danny/cjnziyl
hero member
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Are you like these guys?

jmordica's Mining Statement: http://youtu.be/ZY284WtOd9A

That video was two and a half minutes I'll never get back. Two guys jawboning over a videolink, smiling at each other and smirking while they seemingly watch a guy's ass in a darkened datacentre... whatever this clip purports to prove has obviously remained elusive Huh  Angry

A complete waste of time. If this video is any reflection on the calibre of the participants involved then the only thing I'd say is, "Seek alternatives".



 Sad




legendary
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jmordica's Mining Statement: http://youtu.be/ZY284WtOd9A

cant believe that......i mean....there are alot of older people in the community. i guess some are smart...and somehow blind.

how can you run a "million dollar company" , make this video or "prove" and people are ok with it? its like being in a cult. dont wake up. just dream.


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legendary
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legendary
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well that video shows us a lot.
e few questions.

1, why was the lighting turned off?
2,why did the camera stay very low so we couldn't see properly?
3,it shows that you have 2 rows of asics with some running?
4,if you truly want to silence the trolls, you need to walk around the building and show more of it?

come on,you promised a proper walkthrough not a dark one shot painting then nothing else?

Rats, Rats..... theres Rats everywhere. Aaarrgghhh

 Andrew_French posted about

And no sound

where is that video?
legendary
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well that video shows us a lot.
e few questions.

1, why was the lighting turned off?
2,why did the camera stay very low so we couldn't see properly?
3,it shows that you have 2 rows of asics with some running?
4,if you truly want to silence the trolls, you need to walk around the building and show more of it?

come on,you promised a proper walkthrough not a dark one shot painting then nothing else?

Rats, Rats..... theres Rats everywhere. Aaarrgghhh

 Andrew_French posted about

And no sound
legendary
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http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/12/01/bitbeat-under-fire-gaw-miners-ceo-garza-takes-on-his-critics/


"In investigating these claims, BitBeat viewed a bitcoin address at Blockchain.info that was cryptographically proven to belong to GAW and in which almost 28,000 bitcoins"

just one address. of course GAW has some bitcoin. but these are not enough BTC. Roger Ver "viewed" on the Goxx BTC. you know the rest.


"We also obtained a copy of the lease contract to a 150,000-square foot warehouse in Park Purvis, Miss., where GAW’s mining operation occurs,"

a contract? everybody can print that. and even when there is a mining-farm, its just one. not enough at all.


"and saw photos of a new operation under constructions with hundreds of rigs stacked on shelves, high-tension wires and heavy electrical infrastructure."


whos the owner of these rigs? where are these pics?


"Separately, Jihan Wu, the CEO of bitcoin mining equipment maker Bitmain, told us GAW was “a very important participant” in the industry and confirmed delivery of a single Bitmain order to GAW worth 5 petahashes per second."

not enough mining equipment. where is the rest?


"As for the charge that GAW is a Ponzi scheme, Mr. Garza pointed out that his principal partner, Cantor Fitzgerald Vice Chairman Stuart Fraser, in whose name the patent for one of Wall Street’s most important bond trading programs is listed, has “got more to lose than all of us combined.” "

not a good argument. maybe GAW is goxxing him too?


"Meanwhile, Mr. Garza said claims that the company censored the Hashtalk forum misrepresent its policy for maintaining decorum. He said community members will “downvote” people whose comments aren’t constructive and that the only rule the forum moderators enforce is “show some respect.”"


"buy the shit and shut up" is the rule i guess


so in summary:

"Still, many say that GAW — as with all cloud mining operations — could be far more transparent. Amith Nirgunarthy, CEO of cryptocurrency information site IHB.io, says GAW should provide “their coinbase addresses on the bitcoin blockchain.” Without that, he said, “none of their mining contract payouts can be traced to virgin bitcoins,” ensuring that it “smells like a ponzi scheme.” "

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http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/12/01/bitbeat-under-fire-gaw-miners-ceo-garza-takes-on-his-critics/tab/comments/

     GAW_CEO wrote:

Screw you patetic trolls. you have no life and only interested in hurting my company and hurting this industry. We are the most onovative crypto busines and your just bitcoin bagholders who cant let go of their noisy expensive miners. Cloud staking is the future and you'll be sorry your not part of it.



That whole blog thread is pretty sorry reading, makes everyone commenting look like twisted, hyper-sensitive basement dwellers.

 Lips sealed




You still stand by this?
hero member
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Are you like these guys?

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/12/01/bitbeat-under-fire-gaw-miners-ceo-garza-takes-on-his-critics/tab/comments/

     GAW_CEO wrote:

Screw you patetic trolls. you have no life and only interested in hurting my company and hurting this industry. We are the most onovative crypto busines and your just bitcoin bagholders who cant let go of their noisy expensive miners. Cloud staking is the future and you'll be sorry your not part of it.



That whole blog thread is pretty sorry reading, makes everyone commenting look like twisted, hyper-sensitive basement dwellers.

 Lips sealed


legendary
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i made ROI long time ago, its pure profit for me for some time, never had any issue with them, NEVER
legendary
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I would think the NDAs are/would be in place because the final details are not yet finalized and releasing some details may put either party at a potential disadvantage to any negotiations.

I would think the "NDAs" are in place so Mr. CEO can avoid proving he's not full of shit.
This might be true, but it also might not be true. The "cover" of NDA's is only temporary as he will eventually need to prove that he does have agreements with retailers to accept his new altcoin.

Based on how much speculation there is about gaw potentially being a ponzi I would say that it was probably a bad idea for him to imply that he has agreements lined up with retailers, as it will only add fuel to the fire.

Maybe the big players are taaaarrrrget, amaaaaarrrrrzon and walmaaarrrrrt which we just all confused thinking they were the big companies we know about.
legendary
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http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/12/01/bitbeat-under-fire-gaw-miners-ceo-garza-takes-on-his-critics/tab/comments/

     GAW_CEO wrote:

Screw you patetic trolls. you have no life and only interested in hurting my company and hurting this industry. We are the most onovative crypto busines and your just bitcoin bagholders who cant let go of their noisy expensive miners. Cloud staking is the future and you'll be sorry your not part of it.
hero member
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I would think the NDAs are/would be in place because the final details are not yet finalized and releasing some details may put either party at a potential disadvantage to any negotiations.

I would think the "NDAs" are in place so Mr. CEO can avoid proving he's not full of shit.
This might be true, but it also might not be true. The "cover" of NDA's is only temporary as he will eventually need to prove that he does have agreements with retailers to accept his new altcoin.

Based on how much speculation there is about gaw potentially being a ponzi I would say that it was probably a bad idea for him to imply that he has agreements lined up with retailers, as it will only add fuel to the fire.
hero member
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I would think the NDAs are/would be in place because the final details are not yet finalized and releasing some details may put either party at a potential disadvantage to any negotiations.

I would think the "NDAs" are in place so Mr. CEO can avoid proving he's not full of shit.
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Will the NDA last forever like a secret society funding the savior our paycoin? Josh will keep this NDA statement going for a long time since releasing information about partners puts him in the spotlight of a direct claim. I'm pretty certain the end game result is the death of paycoin... though it'll aim to be an orchestrated death. His aim is to ensure that the high rollers don't lose money as big losers = painful investigations. He needs to slam all the sales in BTC and have it go through coin mixers then stash it somewhere... orchestrate paycoins decline and failure and blame on things outside his control. The focus is removed from the mining operation that was dodgy (he's already at the phase out mining and migrate people to an ecosystem in paycoin he completely controls). Basically i hope a group gets an look into his operations before it progresses too far along. As it is now i'll wager he has nothing to show hence them lack of evidence and transparency.

It'll go down in the next 6 months. Paycoin has to come out in the next month. When people keep spending and don't see cash back in any form they tend to lose tolerance.
The NDA would last until at most when paycoin is "released" as at this point the fact that paycoin is accepted at various retailers will be obvious by the fact that the retailers accept paycoin (assuming any actually will accept it).

I would think the NDAs are/would be in place because the final details are not yet finalized and releasing some details may put either party at a potential disadvantage to any negotiations.
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