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Topic: Steem pyramid scheme revealed - page 16. (Read 107064 times)

sr. member
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December 03, 2016, 12:21:06 PM

Sounds great... paying gas to post when I can immutably post to the Steem blockchain for free.

Right now I'll settle for just getting my Ethereum wallet to sync...

Plus ETH is not immutable as seen what happened to the DAO. Steemit didnt had any issues like that.
sr. member
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December 01, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
Steem's genius is that when you up vote, you arn't transferring from your own wallet, you are allocating newly minted steem from the next 24 hours to whoever you have upvoted.

That is Steem's major flaw, not its genius.

As I will soon teach by example...

Don't forget that I explained mathematically that awarding minted tokens via voting can't be distributed to anyone but who the whales choose, i.e. you can never rid yourself of the whale oppression in that voting system:

https://steemit.com/steem/@anonymint/blog-rewards-can-t-be-widely-distributed
sr. member
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November 30, 2016, 04:08:54 AM
This Changes Everything:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/5fiyts/permanent_free_speech_on_the_ethereum_blockchain/

You can now post immutably on the Ethereum Chain!

This is very different than STEEM!

Ethereum Changes Everything Again!



This is probably the reason why the Ethereum price is down.  Immutable free speech coins are pretty unhip lately.  TAlk about a kiss of death.  What were those devs thinking announcing that "Ethereum is out of touch with what is hip to kids today"

Sounds great... paying gas to post when I can immutably post to the Steem blockchain for free.

Right now I'll settle for just getting my Ethereum wallet to sync...
legendary
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November 29, 2016, 04:11:26 PM
But as you have it now you are basically throwing money to keep a endless hyperinflation scheme running.

The 'endless' hyperinflation scheme ends in one week.

awwww

then STEEM will just be "bitcoin plus blogging" = "boooorrrrrrrrriiiiinnnnngggggg"

The hyperinflation scheme never added any real value to begin with. Everything else will work much the same as before. Inflate insanely and then pay insane interest to offset nearly all of the inflation? Sorry, that was kind of pointless. Removing it is either neutral or adds value. (Although I was never as strongly against it as were some others, I also never saw much point to it.)
sr. member
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November 29, 2016, 12:14:52 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Ad revenue would be so little to sustain Steem or SBD price that it's not worth the inconvenience for the users. Also these users are basically the owners of the platform and content creatores, so I'm not sure who will benefit for showing ads there or what type.

The real problem with Steemit is that their content quality is pathetic compared to Facebook, Reddit, Medium, etc. If the content was superior and it had actual demand from the mainstream like the previously mentioned I could see how "blogging is the new mining" could work and justify the crazy inflation model. But as you have it now you are basically throwing money to keep a endless hyperinflation scheme running.

Steem replacing Youtube has never worked for me.

Check a 3 months chart. Facts do speak for themselves.

Steem is more like a competitor for Reddit and Medium.

We will see about the others later when it grows a little bit more.
legendary
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November 28, 2016, 11:54:15 PM
But as you have it now you are basically throwing money to keep a endless hyperinflation scheme running.

The 'endless' hyperinflation scheme ends in one week.
legendary
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November 28, 2016, 05:42:45 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Ad revenue would be so little to sustain Steem or SBD price that it's not worth the inconvenience for the users.

In my opinion the best solution is to have an ad-free experience for logged-in users, but display ads to non-logged-in users. I'm not talking anything big though - discrete, small ads that simply bring some extra revenue.

1) It creates an incentive to sign up
2) It breaks the closed loop economy
3) It keeps the promise of no ads for its users
4) It monetizes the content already existing in the blockchain, allowing new possibilities like residual income for older content
sr. member
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November 26, 2016, 06:50:49 PM
Instead of formal advertising, all advertisers need to do is buy some steempower and then automatically upvote anything that has their chosen keywords in it. Writers will automatically start including said keywords, so it is win-win, especially as it is a more natural form of advertising.

The problem is that the advertising industry is stuck in the old days where they advertise like they do in newspapers or on the search engines. It will take them awhile before they wrap their heads around a new model.

The new model will be that your users do your advertising. You can't buy this with money. You buy this by providing something to your users that they need to talk about with others.

Welcome the Knowledge Age that I (@AnonyMint) was writing about and predicting since 2013:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212

sr. member
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November 26, 2016, 06:47:31 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Ad revenue would be so little to sustain Steem or SBD price that it's not worth the inconvenience for the users.

Indeed. I documented this quantitatively upthread months ago and earlier this year in my analysis of the non-potential of Synereo.

The real problem with Steemit is that their content quality is pathetic compared to Facebook, Reddit, Medium, etc. If the content was superior and it had actual demand from the mainstream...

Medium is not going survive either. Blogging content is not sufficiently monetizable to sustain the model Steem has.
legendary
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November 26, 2016, 06:07:04 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Ad revenue would be so little to sustain Steem or SBD price that it's not worth the inconvenience for the users. Also these users are basically the owners of the platform and content creatores, so I'm not sure who will benefit for showing ads there or what type.



Instead of formal advertising, all advertisers need to do is buy some steempower and then automatically upvote anything that has their chosen keywords in it. Writers will automatically start including said keywords, so it is win-win, especially as it is a more natural form of advertising.

The problem is that the advertising industry is stuck in the old days where they advertise like they do in newspapers or on the search engines. It will take them awhile before they wrap their heads around a new model.
hero member
Activity: 547
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November 26, 2016, 02:49:23 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Ad revenue would be so little to sustain Steem or SBD price that it's not worth the inconvenience for the users. Also these users are basically the owners of the platform and content creatores, so I'm not sure who will benefit for showing ads there or what type.

The real problem with Steemit is that their content quality is pathetic compared to Facebook, Reddit, Medium, etc. If the content was superior and it had actual demand from the mainstream like the previously mentioned I could see how "blogging is the new mining" could work and justify the crazy inflation model. But as you have it now you are basically throwing money to keep a endless hyperinflation scheme running.

Quality content takes time.  Recent support for block chain based social media includes reddit ceo altering content along with reddit censoring the pizzagate investigation.  With the general media fighting each other about "fake" news, this is a prime time for something like steemit to take center stage.
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November 26, 2016, 01:43:40 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Ad revenue would be so little to sustain Steem or SBD price that it's not worth the inconvenience for the users. Also these users are basically the owners of the platform and content creatores, so I'm not sure who will benefit for showing ads there or what type.

The real problem with Steemit is that their content quality is pathetic compared to Facebook, Reddit, Medium, etc. If the content was superior and it had actual demand from the mainstream like the previously mentioned I could see how "blogging is the new mining" could work and justify the crazy inflation model. But as you have it now you are basically throwing money to keep a endless hyperinflation scheme running.

Steem replacing Youtube has never worked for me.

Check a 3 months chart. Facts do speak for themselves.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
November 26, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Ad revenue would be so little to sustain Steem or SBD price that it's not worth the inconvenience for the users. Also these users are basically the owners of the platform and content creatores, so I'm not sure who will benefit for showing ads there or what type.

The real problem with Steemit is that their content quality is pathetic compared to Facebook, Reddit, Medium, etc. If the content was superior and it had actual demand from the mainstream like the previously mentioned I could see how "blogging is the new mining" could work and justify the crazy inflation model. But as you have it now you are basically throwing money to keep a endless hyperinflation scheme running.
member
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November 26, 2016, 06:03:49 AM
because the dev holds the funds to pay you out doesnt mean that its pyramid
legendary
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November 26, 2016, 05:35:43 AM
The government is the most inefficient use of resources, so keeping resources out of the government's hands should be the best for growing the economy.

Yea, the government requires lots of waste to exist.  Humans used to be hunter gatherers, then as soon as they started creating surplus, the predator class (govt) arose from that surplus.  It seems like peak conventional crude oil (which appeared to happen in 2004) will force the state to scale back most of it's power unless it can replace all of it's current waste with fusion energy or having a dangerous fission plant every few feet.
legendary
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November 26, 2016, 04:54:28 AM
So what you really need in India is to stop the caste system and stop the corruption.

Dan Larimer believes the caste system...
And wholesale corruption by the ruling caste will lead to "world domination".

It's a tribute to his genius that Dan invented both "currency pegs" and the "caste system" in recent years.
hero member
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DAO ↔ DApp
November 26, 2016, 03:03:25 AM
Does anyone know details about steem.it? Pm me.
sr. member
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November 25, 2016, 01:56:58 PM
I am also from India and facing this issue as well.The main reason behind this have our government is taken a huge step and banned the higher value notes to take control of black money.So peoples here are trying to either buy gold with them quickly and some who know about bitcoins want to buy it.
Every day i see in our india exchange btcxindia.com,the price of bitcoin is just inreasing.

Is gold viable as a currency? How do you trade a gold necklace for a hamburger?

Wouldn't an instant currency transfer with your mobile phone be more practical?

Aren't Indians very fond of having a smart phone as soon as they can afford one?

The government can't stop people from using crypto-currency unless they block the Internet.

Am I correct that Indians hate to pay taxes?


Sadly yes indian dont love to pay taxes but i am totally against it because there is a huge lot of black money in our country which is slowing down country's progress for sure,thats why that strong step being taken to remove all those black money.

Bitcoin can be an option but still to buy bitcoin people have to first deposit their cash to bank account and then buy bitcoin and i that way government can track that big amount is being deposited but yes they can never know how much bitcoins have been holded and hence cannot take tax for that.

Bitcoin has that problem of onboarding, but Steem(it) does not. And there is a better clone/kind of Steem(it) coming which I think is going to make it very easy for the people to get crypto-currency without needing to go through an exchange. And then the world will change. I say this, because I am the person who is creating this new project.

Why is not paying taxes bad for your country? The government is the most inefficient use of resources, so keeping resources out of the government's hands should be the best for growing the economy.

An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.”  ― Lazarus Long

You think the government is the only entity which can build roads, schools, and provide food and health care to the indigent?

Rather the problem in India is your country doesn't allow foreigners to invest there without a lot of corrupt bureaucracy. The problem of India is all the corruption. I read there are corrupt police and officials and it is very difficult and dangerous to attempt to do business there.

So what you really need in India is to stop the caste system and stop the corruption.

With crypto-currency and the Internet, we can empower the people of India to rise above the corruption, because the government officials can't control the Internet, the way they can control the lands, the licenses to build infrastructure and do physical business. The virtual economy is global and the people can increasingly go to it to earn income which can't be corrupted.

This is the future.
sr. member
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November 25, 2016, 05:21:19 AM
It's not a ponzi scheme, it's a socially funded blog system

  • Steemit users get rewards for posting
  • Steem holders/investors pay for it


IMO you are right on this one
I guess OPs problem is that the "devs" are holding the funds from what they are paying out. I see what he means by this topic, but i dont see any solution to keep the funds decentralized, since only this would resolve this problem. And this is clearly not a  ponzi/ pyramid scheme.

Well of course they want to hold onto the funds if they believe Steemit will be successful in the future.

I would be more worried if they were selling. But over time the distribution of SP will be more equal, as more people invest.
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