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legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1000
October 17, 2016, 04:27:06 PM
I like the whole concept of Steem, but I can't see how price can ever hold up when you have people's steem power continually growing even when they are powering down on a weekly basis. It's like a perpetual money machine. How can that ever hold up over the long term??

The genius idea behind it is that there will be suckers that will keep buying Steem for unknown reasons (like speculation...yeah right, traders are idiots).

That's basically its whole economic system. I like many others called it from the start but I can't believe serious guys with PhDs and fund managers have fallen for this, it's the simplest thing ever and I've seen users here debating it like it is quantum physics.

You buy Steem, you are basically donating your money to bloggers or supporting whales powering down. That's all there is. You power it up, you still lose money, just 90% less.

Just keep your 100%.

The same could be said for almost any crypto.  The top 10, top 20, etc... are all still pure speculation plays.

Also why is the general vibe that Steem will stay with its current structure?  Steem can change and based on CNX's coding history, I highly doubt it will stagnate and die from a development standpoint.

If Steem sets a top cap then the situation can change but the whole system is based on infinite growth. There's absolutely no incentive to buy Steem as we all know, it will dilute forever. Do you buy something that you know it will dilute in value? Don't tell me company shares, most pay dividends and are deeply tied to their growth.
hero member
Activity: 547
Merit: 502
October 17, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
I like the whole concept of Steem, but I can't see how price can ever hold up when you have people's steem power continually growing even when they are powering down on a weekly basis. It's like a perpetual money machine. How can that ever hold up over the long term??

The genius idea behind it is that there will be suckers that will keep buying Steem for unknown reasons (like speculation...yeah right, traders are idiots).

That's basically its whole economic system. I like many others called it from the start but I can't believe serious guys with PhDs and fund managers have fallen for this, it's the simplest thing ever and I've seen users here debating it like it is quantum physics.

You buy Steem, you are basically donating your money to bloggers or supporting whales powering down. That's all there is. You power it up, you still lose money, just 90% less.

Just keep your 100%.

The same could be said for almost any crypto.  The top 10, top 20, etc... are all still pure speculation plays.

Also why is the general vibe that Steem will stay with its current structure?  Steem can change and based on CNX's coding history, I highly doubt it will stagnate and die from a development standpoint.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1000
October 17, 2016, 03:48:26 PM
I like the whole concept of Steem, but I can't see how price can ever hold up when you have people's steem power continually growing even when they are powering down on a weekly basis. It's like a perpetual money machine. How can that ever hold up over the long term??

The genius idea behind it is that there will be suckers that will keep buying Steem for unknown reasons (like speculation...yeah right, traders are idiots).

That's basically its whole economic system. I like many others called it from the start but I can't believe serious guys with PhDs and fund managers have fallen for this, it's the simplest thing ever and I've seen users here debating it like it is quantum physics.

You buy Steem, you are basically donating your money to bloggers or supporting whales powering down. That's all there is. You power it up, you still lose money, just 90% less.

Just keep your 100%.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
October 17, 2016, 11:02:20 AM
120 votes earns $3.62 on Steemit now. Be lucky if I can even get $1 of that actually out.

So that should most likely be my last post ever on Steemit.

Exactly as I predicted, it played out. Irrevocably destroyed by the whale concept.

I think it's more to do with the problem that Larimer designed the native Steem token to be a toxic asset that you don't want to hold onto due to inflation by design, which is further compounded by the problem that the SBD isn't holding it's peg, and the fact that most people are into cryptocurrency due to seeking "uncorrelated assets" that have no relation to the USD in the first place.  It doesn't fix much, but might as well add a gold and silver peg to address part of that equation.

I agree the use-case is very limited to nearly non-existent. They designed just about every facet incorrectly (although they did generate some interesting design insights from which a new project could draw on and combine in more optimum ways), except from the standpoint of creating a bubble for the initial whales to cash out and profit from.

I am still planning to introduce a crypto project doing it correctly. And you are very much astute to challenge with there must be a use case that can't be satiated with Bitcoin or gold. I did see your post about being able to fund your Bitpay Visa card linked with BTC.

Lastly please be aware I am also working on a new programming language named Boost, designed to supercede JavaScript, Java, Swift, and the other mainstream high-level programming languages. Recently we had Ceylon's @gavinking stop by to discuss at our Github project. Note that is part of my strategy, so it may seem very roundabout zig-zag, but it will all make sense in the end.

Note I've been in an intense daily (hour-by-hour) battle to cure my chronic health problem which has been holding back my productivity. That is why I've been silent past weeks.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
October 17, 2016, 10:45:22 AM
I like the whole concept of Steem, but I can't see how price can ever hold up when you have people's steem power continually growing even when they are powering down on a weekly basis. It's like a perpetual money machine. How can that ever hold up over the long term??
hero member
Activity: 1694
Merit: 541
October 17, 2016, 07:11:00 AM
Riding the Steemit pyramid once more:

The Red pill, Blue pill Election — NYC slumlord vs. Globalists

I put a lot of effort into that and I think it is quite insightful.

120 votes earns $3.62 on Steemit now. Be lucky if I can even get $1 of that actually out.

So that should most likely be my last post ever on Steemit.

Exactly as I predicted, it played out. Irrevocably destroyed by the whale concept.

Dont waste your time in it. Without putting some money first you wont really earn there. I have posted a story there and some information which is quite unique because it is from my experience but still I cant even get a dollar.
even i am finding it difficult to have some views nor plan on making some Steem ,hope the initial steem has gassed off  yet it is priced about 40k satoshi and i do think it is over priced,what ever it is i dont plan on investing anything into it as i am not satisfied with the business model
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
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October 17, 2016, 03:32:56 AM
Riding the Steemit pyramid once more:

The Red pill, Blue pill Election — NYC slumlord vs. Globalists

I put a lot of effort into that and I think it is quite insightful.

120 votes earns $3.62 on Steemit now. Be lucky if I can even get $1 of that actually out.

So that should most likely be my last post ever on Steemit.

Exactly as I predicted, it played out. Irrevocably destroyed by the whale concept.

Dont waste your time in it. Without putting some money first you wont really earn there. I have posted a story there and some information which is quite unique because it is from my experience but still I cant even get a dollar.

I experience similar case, I was surprise at the little reward the article attracts when compared to some articles on the site which carries thousand of dollars, that was when I realise that the scheme has been rigged to favour just selected few. To me the developers still have time to save the project buy burning the large tokens at their disposal and make the project a truly decentralised one.
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 1130
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October 16, 2016, 11:59:26 PM
Riding the Steemit pyramid once more:

The Red pill, Blue pill Election — NYC slumlord vs. Globalists

I put a lot of effort into that and I think it is quite insightful.

120 votes earns $3.62 on Steemit now. Be lucky if I can even get $1 of that actually out.

So that should most likely be my last post ever on Steemit.

Exactly as I predicted, it played out. Irrevocably destroyed by the whale concept.

Dont waste your time in it. Without putting some money first you wont really earn there. I have posted a story there and some information which is quite unique because it is from my experience but still I cant even get a dollar.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
October 16, 2016, 11:50:38 PM
120 votes earns $3.62 on Steemit now. Be lucky if I can even get $1 of that actually out.

So that should most likely be my last post ever on Steemit.

Exactly as I predicted, it played out. Irrevocably destroyed by the whale concept.

I think it's more to do with the problem that Larimer designed the native Steem token to be a toxic asset that you don't want to hold onto due to inflation by design, which is further compounded by the problem that the SBD isn't holding it's peg, and the fact that most people are into cryptocurrency due to seeking "uncorrelated assets" that have no relation to the USD in the first place.  It doesn't fix much, but might as well add a gold and silver peg to address part of that equation.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
October 16, 2016, 08:12:54 PM
Riding the Steemit pyramid once more:

The Red pill, Blue pill Election — NYC slumlord vs. Globalists

I put a lot of effort into that and I think it is quite insightful.

120 votes earns $3.62 on Steemit now. Be lucky if I can even get $1 of that actually out.

So that should most likely be my last post ever on Steemit.

Exactly as I predicted, it played out. Irrevocably destroyed by the whale concept.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
October 16, 2016, 08:03:36 PM
Well, you can also avoid the negatives I listed by society just scaling back.  Having smaller houses instead of paying $1000 a month to air condition mansions, reproducing less, etc.  The current governments actually subsidize R-selection and kind of penalize K-selection, so all that has to change.

I was reading the early IOTA thread...
And noticed how CfB shut you down after 1-2 posts.

There are very good reasons why IOTA is up 50 times ICO price with no exchange listing.

Come from Beyond started deleting all posts that weren't hyping IOTA so I made a non-censored thread that's up to 18 pages:

IOTA - Permissioned ledger Russian extortion scheme

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/iota-permissioned-ledger-russian-extortion-scheme-1414866

He then made some bogus shell accounts and started filing fake scam reports against me:



Lol, like it's even possible to scam someone and then do two more trades with the same person afterwards!  I've never even bought or sold BTC using this website.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
October 16, 2016, 06:44:28 PM
Riding the Steemit pyramid once more:

The Red pill, Blue pill Election — NYC slumlord vs. Globalists

I put a lot of effort into that and I think it is quite insightful.
legendary
Activity: 1588
Merit: 1000
October 11, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
Well, you can also avoid the negatives I listed by society just scaling back.  Having smaller houses instead of paying $1000 a month to air condition mansions, reproducing less, etc.  The current governments actually subsidize R-selection and kind of penalize K-selection, so all that has to change.

I was reading the early IOTA thread...
And noticed how CfB shut you down after 1-2 posts.

There are very good reasons why IOTA is up 50 times ICO price with no exchange listing.
legendary
Activity: 1588
Merit: 1000
October 11, 2016, 04:37:20 PM
It broke the critical level of 50k today.
Time to revive this thread.

I would say its justified to call it all that, a Ponzi, a scam, a pyramid scheme.
The suckers in charge doing nothing but milk it some more, taking the piss.

The price chart is following the pattern of lots of alts, in that people get very excited at the start, but when "instant" profits don't materialise, they sell to invest in the next shiny alt.

We won't be able to judge whether steemit is a success till it has been going for at least a year.

You are looking at "price charts" of a "currency" with a 5% float controlled by 50 people and 100% inflation (or whatever)?
You are talking about "instant profits" in a Business Model with no known revenue streams (just token stripping by whales)?

Ya, let's give it a year... it's only down 93% from 0.0065... this can't possibly last.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
October 11, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
It has been said before that the model will surely crash, those that I pity are those that use there hard earn BTC to buy Steem and are wondering what to do now, they price has been crashing per day, it is a manipulative game, those whales can use their power to crash the price and accumulate more token and pump again
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 3675
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October 10, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
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hero member
Activity: 1386
Merit: 623
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October 10, 2016, 01:04:45 PM
Steemit is just a new scam by promising to pay you for your content while they use your content for more traffic to attract more suckers.

Just want you to be online and waste your time in hopes of money, no there will be no money for you  just for themselves.

I've made money out of it, and I think the platform has potential in a world where advertising is being blocked.
how you made money in steemit? can you share maybe when this steemit is release newly but for now its long time that steemit still alive we dont know what will happen in the few days or weeks..
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 10, 2016, 01:00:38 PM
The following post on the bitsharestalk.org reinforces a common complaint about Steemit.  A few large stake holders (whales) essentially control the system.

"...I need a group of people I trust to help me upvote quality content on steemit using my whale account by focusing on upvoting and curating content on this tag...."

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,23397.0.html
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1088
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October 10, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Steemit is just a new scam by promising to pay you for your content while they use your content for more traffic to attract more suckers.

Just want you to be online and waste your time in hopes of money, no there will be no money for you  just for themselves.

I've made money out of it, and I think the platform has potential in a world where advertising is being blocked.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 506
October 10, 2016, 12:46:54 PM
Steemit is just a new scam by promising to pay you for your content while they use your content for more traffic to attract more suckers.

Just want you to be online and waste your time in hopes of money, no there will be no money for you  just for themselves.
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