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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 04:29:59 PM

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

The individual that won has no obligation to gift money to anyone so what he gave was fine and the receiver didn't complain because there are some gamblers that'll win that much or more and won't give a dime to the punters. It was his risk and the punters had no part in his victory so why do people think he owes him any appreciations. By the time that gambler gets home he would have lost most of his profits if he keep giving them out to random People that ask.

The family members will also want a share of the money won as the news would have gotten home before he gets home. If I was the individual in this situation, I'll live town for sometime as the news would had circulated round town and I become a traget to evil individual that'll want to get a share of the money. The gambler should just look for what he'll Invest in to secure his profits and not spend it gifting it to people that wouldn't be appreciative.

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Quote from: Makus on November 22, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

With that kind of winning out of a small bet, the odds are also ridiculously high, and for sure it takes lots of trials and errors. The only good thing about sports betting is that we can also incorporate our experience, skills, knowledge, and other... positive traits, making the nearly impossible became possible. If we are being given some thing, whether it is huge or small, we should learn to appreciate it. Being ungrateful is bad, and it makes us to not get any thing again next time.

Indeed, not all are willing do such act, even if we say that they already won huge amounts. So I still salute the gambler involved here in the article. No wonder why he got blessed and maybe more blessings can still come in his way.

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I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled

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It is easy to say than to do. I believe most of those criticizers would do worse if they were the one that won the bet. It is not any form of term's and conditions neither is it any in any page of gambling policies that one must dona give away of wins a bet.
Who cares when he looses? No one is concerned to know if he has lost more than that won in the gambling even though the winning was a huge.
The guy did even more than his best. Those that criticized him has other forms of earnings and making money and yet didn't make a global charity reputation.

A gamble won is not seemed a free fund for efforts of logistic such as stakes and logical thinking where invested and it is a whole lot that he may have been on the gambling table but couldn't take the winning not til a D-Day of winning is come.
Else those criticizers are the fans that funds realized through gambling ain't worth well utilized.

You can check this thread out that talked about a gambler who won and walks away in the present of his good closed friends.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63138973.
And I still don't blame him because he go bills to pay and responsibilities to take care of. So I would say he is a responsible gambler.

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Quote from: Westinhome on November 24, 2023, 07:08:32 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on November 24, 2023, 07:01:02 PM

that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.

The online gambling helps to keep the secret in the winning from your friends and the family member.Because no one going to advertise,you had win big money in the online websites and in the social media.Until you allow to share about the winning to the other,the winning news will never reach the others.The gambler also take some interest to the business along with the gambling,So the business will help the gambler to play in the long run.The gambling sites also help the business sometimes by giving you more profit in the single game winnings.If the gambler ready to do the parallel of business and gambling will help to make good money at the final.

Exactly and because of the presence of online casinos, I can’t even remember when last I visited a physical casino and I think one other reason why people also physical casinos is because they don’t have internet or even a smart phone and this is very rough survey from people around when asked and you might be tempted to ask if is possible for people not to have internet or even a smart phone in this modern age and yes to say that it is very possible for people not to have either of them and the best option at this thing to hit a physical casino which isn’t a bad idea except for the tipping culture and entitlement spirit possessed by others and there are also people who come to a physical casino not because they want to gamble but rather to partake in sharing if others winnings.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on November 24, 2023, 07:01:02 PM

that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.

The online gambling helps to keep the secret in the winning from your friends and the family member.Because no one going to advertise,you had win big money in the online websites and in the social media.Until you allow to share about the winning to the other,the winning news will never reach the others.The gambler also take some interest to the business along with the gambling,So the business will help the gambler to play in the long run.The gambling sites also help the business sometimes by giving you more profit in the single game winnings.If the gambler ready to do the parallel of business and gambling will help to make good money at the final.

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Quote from: Obari on November 24, 2023, 06:57:27 PM

This silly act of entitlement is very much rampant in my country which is same as yours op and most times, this is one of the reasons why gambling online from a mobile device seems to be the best as no one gets to know when there is a win or a loss but whatever the case might be,I think the gambler was generous enough as no one actually would have shared in their losses if there was a loss and op I don’t think it was wise enough for you to make the name and handle of the commenter from the x app obvious and it wouldn’t be a bad idea if you can blur out the name on the image.

that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.
and for the winner, he doesn't have the responsibility to distribute his winnings. the decision is all his because that's his money anyway. should not feel any guilt from what you decide on this matter.

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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 04:29:59 PM

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Sharing of winning by the winning gamblers to whoever should be voluntary because we don't know how much money the winner lost in the past for people to ask for bigger shares, some winners of this huge amount waited for years and spent a lot of money and sometimes they just break even I know some friends who are happy with their winnings but deep in their heart they just break even but they do not want to tell this to people, because people might interpret that they don't want to share their winnings.
Whatever amount they give to people we should not question it, because we are not a part of his journey before he reached that success.

It is indeed voluntary because it is the winner's right to want to give away a little of their winnings or not share their winnings with other people. Sometimes, people don't want to share their winnings with others because they feel this is a difficult achievement for them, so they should keep the money for themselves.

We can see that many people rarely share their money with other people, especially if they win. They may want to keep it private even though other people come to them and really hope to get that money. So it is true that it is voluntary, and no one can force the winner to share the winnings.

Whether you do like to give or not, then it would really be always your full right on what you should gonna do. They dont have the rights on being that angry or disappointed on how much you would really be putting. They are really just that too much on having that kind of entitlement that they do deserve much more.Dont know on where they do get that kind of confidence that they are really that asking something which isnt really that rightful to be ask in the first place. If you've seen someone who do make out a big win then better to be happy for them or congratulate.
Dont ask for money and let them be the ones who would really be opening on giving your address or something like this on which it isnt that bad at all
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Humans are always like that. No matter what the young man wants to do, they will find something to speak on. If he didn’t give at all, they’ll say he could have given at least tiny. Now he’s given, they are complaining it’s not enough. Why didn’t the punter play with his own 100 (as per your currency)? It is even possible that the person in question was super grateful.

But let them answer; if he lost that amount of money, will that his fellow gambler want to share on the losses? Bunch of entitled people.

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This silly act of entitlement is very much rampant in my country which is same as yours op and most times, this is one of the reasons why gambling online from a mobile device seems to be the best as no one gets to know when there is a win or a loss but whatever the case might be,I think the gambler was generous enough as no one actually would have shared in their losses if there was a loss and op I don’t think it was wise enough for you to make the name and handle of the commenter from the x app obvious and it wouldn’t be a bad idea if you can blur out the name on the image.

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Quote from: Saisher on November 24, 2023, 09:21:28 AM

Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 04:29:59 PM

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Sharing of winning by the winning gamblers to whoever should be voluntary because we don't know how much money the winner lost in the past for people to ask for bigger shares, some winners of this huge amount waited for years and spent a lot of money and sometimes they just break even I know some friends who are happy with their winnings but deep in their heart they just break even but they do not want to tell this to people, because people might interpret that they don't want to share their winnings.
Whatever amount they give to people we should not question it, because we are not a part of his journey before he reached that success.

It is indeed voluntary because it is the winner's right to want to give away a little of their winnings or not share their winnings with other people. Sometimes, people don't want to share their winnings with others because they feel this is a difficult achievement for them, so they should keep the money for themselves.

We can see that many people rarely share their money with other people, especially if they win. They may want to keep it private even though other people come to them and really hope to get that money. So it is true that it is voluntary, and no one can force the winner to share the winnings.

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It's one of my pet peeves to be surrounded with people who like to pry about your financial matters. It's as if you owe it to them that you have a good life, a good financial status, and for having the things that you own. Most people will let you feel awful simply because they are envious and jealous of you. Some people I know have this sense of entitlement that you should obey them because they have the better perspective, or give them something because they have less than what you own.

I don't know why these people do not feel shame about what they are doing. It's not as if it's their money, so the choice whether to give or not as a token of appreciation should still be yours. It's so irritating to be commanded like you owe them something. It's still better to give wholeheartedly. I'd rather let them be salty than to have my peace of mind and winnings be compromised.

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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 04:29:59 PM

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Sharing of winning by the winning gamblers to whoever should be voluntary because we don't know how much money the winner lost in the past for people to ask for bigger shares, some winners of this huge amount waited for years and spent a lot of money and sometimes they just break even I know some friends who are happy with their winnings but deep in their heart they just break even but they do not want to tell this to people, because people might interpret that they don't want to share their winnings.
Whatever amount they give to people we should not question it, because we are not a part of his journey before he reached that success.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 23, 2023, 04:39:59 PM

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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Whether you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.

So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount, so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.

It makes sense, basically there are absolutely no rules that tell them (gamblers) to share the results of their winnings and in my opinion it might come back to themselves, if they care enough about other people, especially some of their friends then it doesn't matter in my opinion if they really want to share a small part of their winnings as long as the will comes out of themselves and there is no encouragement or coercion from others. I'm a gambler who sometimes likes to share a small portion of my winnings with my close friends, but I don't just give it away and I will choose one of my friends who is good enough to me in the real world or I mean it can be said to be a true friend and not come just for profit. With that I wouldn't mind giving them.

But on the other hand it is true as you said they have the right to claim the right of my winnings if indeed they participated in the gambling that I did, whether they provided additional funds for me to gamble or maybe they provided a way that happened to be quite working at that time, if that is the case then obviously I think I will not mind giving them a portion of my winnings even though maybe they are not one of my true friends.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 23, 2023, 04:39:59 PM

So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount, so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.

Well said but I think it is more of the practice with the offline kind of gambling. It depends on the gambler to know what he wants to part with and nobody mandates him only his conscience and perhaps they do that either because they have also shared from that of others.

But like you said and pointed out regards to online gambling, that is the advantage. When you bet online, you have your privacy and nobody knows when you lose or win. But the risk and temptation of continuous playing is high to play online except you have a good level self control to stay with your budget.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on November 23, 2023, 08:07:02 AM

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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Whether you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.

I don't know why some gamblers feels that it is the right to share in the winnings of others and the reason why I like playing in online casinos since it gives me the privacy that I deserve to keep myself unchecked at all time and to avoid over dependency when the jackpot happens, because a lot of time, those that win in gambling after sharing their winning with those demanding for it or friends, they end up with nothing, and that doesn't make any sense at all since they the bone who took all the risk and no one will compensate or support them when their lose.

So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount, so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on November 23, 2023, 08:07:02 AM

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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Either you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.

Well, for me, I personally feel that this is not even an issue we should be discussing about, because I do not see any merit in it, there is nothing complex here to warrant any attention or arguments.

Anybody in their sane mind knows what is right from wrong when it comes to how a gambler should spend his or her big winnings, and let me say this, if for example I am given a game to play, and I play it with my money and lose, does it make any sense to hold the person who gave me the game responsible for my loss? And ask him to pay me back my money I lost on his game.? Of course it makes no sense..

Same also, it makes absolutely no sense for a person to feel entitled in the money I won from a game he or she gave me, because it is still a risk I took on my own, if I had lost the money, he or she wouldnt have refunded me even if its half of it, so why feel like I owe you homage when the game won? When you also have your own winning to enjoy, I see nothing here but greed.

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As far as I know gambling does not have such rules, but maybe in some places it is the norm for gamblers in other parts of the world, I don't know about the culture of gambling in other parts of the world, but as far as I know that when we do gambling and then we get a big profit then there is no right for anyone to the winnings that I get from gambling.

Or maybe there was some language amongst gambling peers that agreed to that, that's beyond common knowledge, and yes if that's the case it's most likely that someone asking for their rights is normal to the jackpot winner.

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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Either you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.

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Quote from: dunfida on November 23, 2023, 07:46:02 AM

This is why i dont really like on involving someone when i do make out some bets yet i dont really love or like the feeling that im really that obliged or needed
to share up my winnings on the time that i do make some hit.

The sweet spot for gambling is at home, where your betting business stays between you and the site admin. No prying eyes, no one breathing down your neck if you hit the jackpot. Perfect for serious gamblers who want zero distractions. Now, if you're out and about in public, well, you can't dodge those situations. It's your call whether you want to share your winnings or not. Just a friendly reminder though, let's not step on anyone's toes. Gamblers can be a touchy bunch, and things might get messy if someone feels disrespected.

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