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Quote from: Russlenat on November 23, 2023, 07:36:48 AM

The winner should just be messing with the person whom he handed with some almost worthless cash. But really, is it such a big deal that needs to be broadcasted to the world? I mean, we're all in the gambling game, tossing our own money into the mix, and when we hit the jackpot, there's no rule saying we have to share the spoils. Can't blame the winner if they're not in a generous mood. We don't know their gambling backstory – just 'cause they scored this time doesn't mean they're in profit overall. So, let's not be too hasty with judgment. If there's nothin' good to say, might as well zip it.

Dont play with fire if you cant really be able to handle it out, yes its a form of teasing but it might really be that resulting into a bigger problem knowing that there are people who cant really be easily joked on
or you could really be able to tease. There are ones might really be that putting up attention and there might be some who would really get easily angry and might really be ending up for you to face up some argument or worst it might be ending up on a trouble. This is why it is better that if there's something that you could be able to give then better give out according into your own will but not something that it is really that something worthless. It would really be that totally insulting if you do really do such thing.

I agree on what most people been saying that someone shouldnt really be entitled on getting some amounts on someones win just because they did make some suggestions.
This is why i dont really like on involving someone when i do make out some bets yet i dont really love or like the feeling that im really that obliged or needed
to share up my winnings on the time that i do make some hit.

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The winner should just be messing with the person whom he handed with some almost worthless cash. But really, is it such a big deal that needs to be broadcasted to the world? I mean, we're all in the gambling game, tossing our own money into the mix, and when we hit the jackpot, there's no rule saying we have to share the spoils. Can't blame the winner if they're not in a generous mood. We don't know their gambling backstory – just 'cause they scored this time doesn't mean they're in profit overall. So, let's not be too hasty with judgment. If there's nothin' good to say, might as well zip it.

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Quote from: Makus on November 22, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

That's why it's better not to normalize being too generous in giving back to other people once you win in gambling unless you owe that person. You can share your winning as an act of appreciation to those person who always there for you and help you while you're struggling in your gambling era but not to the person you're normally playing with. Let's normalize enjoying the money and things that we have without feeling obligated to give/ share it back to others.

There’s no way to set what’s normal now since this is already a customary from a long time ago tradition. Gambling discreetly is the best solution to avoid this instead of change the normal reaction of people since it’s impossible to change other people perspective.

Besides, Online casino is now already popular which gives us convenience on gambling at home without sharing others your win. But in my opinion, it’s really not bad sharing some money if you win because I regularly do rain drop on casino chat wheneverI win huge amount just for my self satisfaction.

In the event that you're looking to get a new home, you'll want to look at a few of the things you can do to make sure that you're getting the most out of your new home. I think it's no problem to do as long as you are sincere to give a small portion of your winnings, don't let something that should be a binding force for a stronger relationship become a problem, on the other hand you also have to look first at the person you want to share. For me personally, honestly, I prefer to share my winnings with people who are also good to me in any way, it's like a little sign of gratitude because they have been good to us, no problem.

But yes it all comes back to you because it's your right if you want to share then go ahead but if you really don't want to share at all then I agree with your opinion that it's better for you to gamble secretly so that if you get a win other people around you won't know about it. I see now that people participate more in online casinos than physical ones, and I admit that it is more practical, and it will be able to help you to gamble secretly.

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Quote from: Makus on November 22, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

It's actually okay if others criticize his actions for being too generous to someone he may not know. Sharing the winning prize with other people is also not the winner's obligation but depends on his generosity. If there is another winner, he doesn't need to share his winnings with people he doesn't know so as not to provoke opinions from the public or his friends.

There is no obligation to share the winnings with anyone. So people who criticize the winner should not question it because it is the winner's right to use their winnings. Or maybe those who criticized him also wanted his winnings.

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Quote from: Makus on November 23, 2023, 04:17:39 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 23, 2023, 03:12:22 AM

The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.

Being generous isn't the problem, and I believe most of the comments here even support his generosity, the only problem we have is the criticism from the act of generosity, I mean how can someone feel that the gambler should have done more, N100k is a lot money to gift someone for doing nothing, despite the source of the money it should be respected and considered an alm. No one has the right to decide the amount of money the winner gives, its his money so he alone can choose to gift some out or not.

However the reason for this post is to discuss how some people criticise the gambler for gifting N100k out of N15m. But your comment seem to be mistaking what I mean.

Giving to other punters is not bad, in fact it is an act of benevolence that you can do that when you win. Many gamblers show that appreciation and encouragement to others when they win so it is not the first time that is happening and it is not the first time that I will hear it. The only thing there is if those who were gifted such money start to be entitled and wanting to claim more money from the winner, that is not right. It is an appreciation gift and should be regarded as gift, people don't usually criticize gift except you are close to the giver and you have an or choice to determine what would be given to you.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on November 23, 2023, 06:22:13 AM

Quote from: Makus on November 22, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

That's why it's better not to normalize being too generous in giving back to other people once you win in gambling unless you owe that person. You can share your winning as an act of appreciation to those person who always there for you and help you while you're struggling in your gambling era but not to the person you're normally playing with. Let's normalize enjoying the money and things that we have without feeling obligated to give/ share it back to others.

There’s no way to set what’s normal now since this is already a customary from a long time ago tradition. Gambling discreetly is the best solution to avoid this instead of change the normal reaction of people since it’s impossible to change other people perspective.

Besides, Online casino is now already popular which gives us convenience on gambling at home without sharing others your win. But in my opinion, it’s really not bad sharing some money if you win because I regularly do rain drop on casino chat wheneverI win huge amount just for my self satisfaction.

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Quote from: Makus on November 22, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

That's why it's better not to normalize being too generous in giving back to other people once you win in gambling unless you owe that person. You can share your winning as an act of appreciation to those person who always there for you and help you while you're struggling in your gambling era but not to the person you're normally playing with. Let's normalize enjoying the money and things that we have without feeling obligated to give/ share it back to others.

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Quote from: Makus on November 23, 2023, 04:17:39 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 23, 2023, 03:12:22 AM

The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.

Being generous isn't the problem, and I believe most of the comments here even support his generosity, the only problem we have is the criticism from the act of generosity, I mean how can someone feel that the gambler should have done more, N100k is a lot money to gift someone for doing nothing, despite the source of the money it should be respected and considered an alm. No one has the right to decide the amount of money the winner gives, its his money so he alone can choose to gift some out or not.

However the reason for this post is to discuss how some people criticise the gambler for gifting N100k out of N15m. But your comment seem to be mistaking what I mean.

Generous on other peoples eyes but not into those people or that someone who is really that asking for some bigger bonus or asking for some big part just because they do really believe
that they are the reason on why someone had been able to have some good hit? Thats BS! Just like been said that its none others right or business if you do win big because
in the first place you are only risking your money to win something and they are really just giving some advises but you are still the ones who would really be making such decision
whether you would be following them or would really be going against. It is really just that they dont have the rights on asking for some amount as if they do have the rights. lol

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 23, 2023, 03:12:22 AM

The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.

Being generous isn't the problem, and I believe most of the comments here even support his generosity, the only problem we have is the criticism from the act of generosity, I mean how can someone feel that the gambler should have done more, N100k is a lot money to gift someone for doing nothing, despite the source of the money it should be respected and considered an alm. No one has the right to decide the amount of money the winner gives, its his money so he alone can choose to gift some out or not.

However the reason for this post is to discuss how some people criticise the gambler for gifting N100k out of N15m. But your comment seem to be mistaking what I mean.

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Quote from: Makus on November 22, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.
On the other hand, we must be able to give or show respect to the gambler because he still cares about other people and is willing to generously give some of his winnings even though he also knows that he has lost quite lot of money in betting.

Honestly, I still don't understand why there are still people out there criticizing generous gamblers and why there are still people who think badly about incidents like this.

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Quote from: Makus on November 22, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

I don't understand why some people have that kind of attitude. I remember there's also a topic here because that guy wanted his friend to follow his advice. He called his friend's decision greedy because his advice was not followed. They had an argument because this unashamed person wanted to insist on his advice as if he were the one spending the money. The argument didn't end well but his friend was right to continue betting because the betting ticket actually won.

The world is better when people mind their own business unless it's something that can harm them.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 22, 2023, 05:39:31 PM

Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 03, 2023, 05:15:42 PM

Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.

It is so inappropriate to feel entitled to someone else's money, especially if it was won at the casino. Gambling is a risky hustle, and there is no guarantee of winning. If someone is fortunate enough to win, they should enjoy the fruits of their deed without feeling obligated to share it with others.

Maybe there are some situations where it might be appropriate to discuss splitting winnings with someone else. For example, if two people were playing together and agreed to share their winnings beforehand, then it's fair to do so. Additionally, if someone provides financial assistance to another person who later wins a large sum of money, it might be reasonable for them to request a portion of the winnings as compensation for their generosity.

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I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 22, 2023, 05:39:31 PM

Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 03, 2023, 05:15:42 PM

Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.

What would one gain in doing so, it's just like self appraisal and this amount to nothing, you're not being recognized, rewarded and also got served with bitterness of mind because you're not getting what you want, some may actually be doing that in bids for seeking other's attention, which means nothing to get serious about, if they had known the best to do before that, they would have gamble it for themselves and not for helping others, if they choose to reward us with what we did, we should count it a privilege and if they don't, it's not our right anyway because they took the risk with their money.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 22, 2023, 05:39:31 PM

Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 03, 2023, 05:15:42 PM

Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.

If you've been able to get something in the past in other people like getting some extra money or bonuses then the time comes that you are the ones whose on the top now then it would really be just that right or something ethical that you should really know to look back into the things before. Yes, its not mandatory or necessary on giving back the favor but it is really that something that the right thing to be done
but of course it would really be that basing on the situation or condition since not all would really be that necessary for you to make things to be give back but well it would really be that according into you
on what you would gonna do.

People wont really be giving out that kind of entitling themselves that they do really have some part but there are situations on which there's an exemption but most of the time it isnt really just that right that
you would really be just giving something just because they do ask out? Some do even need bigger amounts and not really that contented on the amount that you are giving?
Arent they out of their minds? Your money is the thing that you had risk out not theirs, yes they might be giving those kind of tips or whatever it is but doesnt mean
that they do have the rights on asking something.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 03, 2023, 05:15:42 PM

Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.

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is the guy who won that $16,000 worth of Niara the guy who avoided his friends after winning? i wouldn't be surprised. he hid because if he shared 100N, he'd be bashed, by his friends but by giving more than $500, a lot of his acquaintances would become friends asking the same amount. and then if he gives just about $200, they will complain about giving him only $200 while the other friend receives $500. the self-entitlement is just like saying to the winner he has no right to say no.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on November 22, 2023, 04:38:52 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 21, 2023, 12:49:22 AM

Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.

Speaking about ungrateful, yes there are a lot of people that are so ungrateful even after cutting off your throat for them.
However it is not a must for a gambler to share his or her winnings with anyone but any gambler that do share his or her winnings with other gamblers, no matter how small the money is as long as they did not worked for it, they should have to collect it with happiness and not grogies, collecting the money with full happiness is also a sign of good conducts and how grateful you are, hoping that one day it will be your turn to win big money from gamble or any other means.

i am with this sentiment as well. the winner has no obligation whatsoever to distribute his winnings to random people or just people around him. it is his winnings, so the prerogative to share relies on him. also, it is not his responsibility to give it to people. just remember, when you are losing, where are they? i bet no one cares if you are on the losing side.
so for those people who happen to learn such big winnings of the person they know of , don't expect that you will receive something for him. you can't expect that from anyone. they have their own plans to take care of.

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Quote from: sunsilk on November 21, 2023, 12:49:22 AM

Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.

Speaking about ungrateful, yes there are a lot of people that are so ungrateful even after cutting off your throat for them.
However it is not a must for a gambler to share his or her winnings with anyone but any gambler that do share his or her winnings with other gamblers, no matter how small the money is as long as they did not worked for it, they should have to collect it with happiness and not grogies, collecting the money with full happiness is also a sign of good conducts and how grateful you are, hoping that one day it will be your turn to win big money from gamble or any other means.

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Quote from: uneng on November 04, 2023, 02:10:53 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 04:29:59 PM

This is the kind of reaction you can expect from envious individuals. People don't have to say anything about someone else's winnings. It's not their winnings, it's not their money, it's not their role to decide anything. Rather, they should take care their own lives and make decisions based on what is in front of them. Usually these people who say how others should act are the most unable ones to act on their own lives when a situation is presented to them to be solved.

My suggestion to the winner and gamblers in general is to just ignore this kind of comment. Do as you want, share what you think you should donate and never expect to be praised by others for your actions.

It has become normal attitude and behavior when there are people who are jealous of other people achievements and do not even hesitate to say few basic words in response to criticism that should not be said.
In fact, what the gambler does is generous attitude and he still cares about other people when he wins, even though the amount is not too big, he proves that he can still have concern for other people.
Honestly, it very rare for me to hear about incidents like this, in fact most of the people out there only care and are concerned with themselves without any thought of caring for other people.

Yes, as long as they can benefit other people and do not harm or cause trouble to other people, then doing whatever feels good is the right decision.
A gambler would prefer to use his winnings for his personal interests and in this case the appreciation given by the gambler was truly extraordinary.

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