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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 03:29:59 PM

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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

That's right, apart from taxes, we don't have any responsibility to give some of the rewards we get to other people, even our own family. Because it's very funny to see many people looking jealous and saying that he should share his gambling rewards with other people, like it's none of their business whether he wants to share some of his rewards with other people or not. And they shouldn't have to protest whatever decision he makes because they don't have anything to do with his game.

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That's just straight up bitter jealousy in my book, I refuse to believe that there's a person that really thinks like that in real life because that's the most stupid thing to say, hell most of the entitled individuals are pretty stupid as if they deserve being able to receive that kind of stuff in the first place, whenever I see that kind of stuff to someone I know, I instantly lose respect for them because they don't have any gratitude in their body even their parents, I lose respect because no way that's not something learned outside the home. People should stop the culture of giving back in my opinion so people like this doesn't have any backbone to say stupid stuff like being given more.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 03, 2023, 04:15:42 PM

Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

Before you consider that, first look into the conditions attached to the gambling first, maybe there's any collaboration between the two of them while playing the bet before everything set in the player, to me, if someone like that exists around me, i will count such for nuisance before he can't firce me against my wish no matter the level of how he has complained about me on his efforts on my bet, afteral am taking the risk to use my money and never forced him to support, if i wish to give him something then i will do that willingly without having him complain, but if he keeps murmuring around then that may be the reason i may not give anything.

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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 03:29:59 PM

As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
Getting to X (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image is one of many tweets from the critics.

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

It is really just that bullshit that you would really be that making yourself that giving with some amounts into those people around just because they are shouting that they would really be getting one but its true that
its not really something mandatory yet you do have the full rights whether you should give or not, if ever you do give out some amount then its just it, never ever consider on giving out something big
since its your money had been risked out on the first place to place up that bet and not theirs. They dont really have the rights on asking up money just because they do feel that they are really that
entitle to get some share with that win of yours. Better to ignore those people and would rather be focusing on the money that you have won. People doesnt have the rights on asking something
specially on the money that you had won. Its all yours and there's no other people have the rights on getting up the share. Basing up on the situation that it is really just that still
good that he do tend to share up at least, even though its small but still not a bad thing to consider rather than on having nothing at all.

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Is it not funny that the punter didn't play his own game? This is a fake punter because if he was the real deal, he would not even need any financial appreciation from his followers. His satisfaction would come from the fact that because of him, someone one won millions which may have been the first for the person and automatically became a millionaire. The punter would have even found satisfaction in the fact that he was able to do for the average citizen what their government has not been able to achieve which is to change the economic status of the individual and not to be bothered a mere token. The punter needs to work on himself and his brand.

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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 03:29:59 PM

Fuck this bro, if in any case I am in the position of the winner and I gave out the N100k to people for them to share and a mother fucker can out and say something like this on the image, then I think I have to collect my money back because I don't see no reason why someone should not appropriate something that he or she didn't worked for.
However, I really wont care at that particular point in time because I will be overwhelmed if in any case I win such amount of money in bet, even if the winning is not up to this same amount but a massive win I will be happy to give.
However, there are a lot of gamblers that can not keep their winning secret, mostly those that haven't won such amount of money before or haven't posed such amount of money before, they can not keep it as a secret for others to know.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on November 04, 2023, 12:59:13 PM

The first question that I will ask the person who won this money is: how do people get to know about the amount that was won in the first place? Was it that the excitement could not let him keep the winning amount secret from himself, or was it the bet shop where he won the money that the cashier leaked the winning amount?

If you have been gambling a long serving gambler you will have known by now that bet companies/bet shops don't hide huge amount of winnings won by a gambler in their site/betshop they make it a public affair because the publicity attracts new customers (gamblers) when they hear/read about the amount won. It's a marketing strategy.

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The amount that the guy gave to the next person does not really matter; what matters is that it was given out of his own will and generosity. No one helped him win that money, so they should appreciate the little that he has given back to society and stop criticising him, because if they were even the ones who won that money, who knows if they can even give out any single amount to their friends? The guy should not listen to them and focus only on what he should do with the money next; that's what matters most.

Selfish persons pretends to act to sound good when they are the one in the receiving end, by their unappreciative response it's easy to detect them. I buy your idea, the young just have to focus on how to invest his money and live his life as beautiful as it should be.

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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 03:29:59 PM

This is the kind of reaction you can expect from envious individuals. People don't have to say anything about someone else's winnings. It's not their winnings, it's not their money, it's not their role to decide anything. Rather, they should take care their own lives and make decisions based on what is in front of them. Usually these people who say how others should act are the most unable ones to act on their own lives when a situation is presented to them to be solved.

My suggestion to the winner and gamblers in general is to just ignore this kind of comment. Do as you want, share what you think you should donate and never expect to be praised by others for your actions.

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The first question that I will ask the person who won this money is: how do people get to know about the amount that was won in the first place? Was it that the excitement could not let him keep the winning amount secret from himself, or was it the bet shop where he won the money that the cashier leaked the winning amount?

The amount that the guy gave to the next person does not really matter; what matters is that it was given out of his own will and generosity. No one helped him win that money, so they should appreciate the little that he has given back to society and stop criticising him, because if they were even the ones who won that money, who knows if they can even give out any single amount to their friends? The guy should not listen to them and focus only on what he should do with the money next; that's what matters most.

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Unfortunately, most people have no clue of what is a RTP of a gambling game, and they don't realize that the guy had maybe lost way more that those winnings in his life, and that it didn't won this prize because of an astonishing luck but because of his statistics. He has maybe bet a rather small stake this time, but he maybe bet it thousands times during years.

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It's true you are at liberty to spend your gambling profit or proceeds at will especially when it comes to showing appreciation, every Sense of entitlement from anyone should be ignored because it was a joint effort of funds so the winner is at liberty to do what they wish.

I think it's because there may have been causes where the winner have benefited from the wins of others so when it happens that he won such too was expected of him aswell but then the idea of what they consider an ideal percentage is out of play because they winner definitely have things he would want to do with such wins and so he wouldn't spend his profit satisfying some silly request from some entitled minded people, I only take a different stand if such a person contributed to the win probably helping with some picks or part of the stake amount then it will be fair to give him a good percentage of the proceed from the bet other wise he shouldn't be entitled.

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Yeah, absolutely! Whether or not you wanna share your gambling winnings is totally up to you. There ain't no official rule saying you gotta spread the wealth or nothing. Some folks hit it big and get all excited to treat their buddies, or donate some of it to charity. That's cool of them and other people, if they score a fat wad of cash at the tables wanna keep it for themselves, you know? But, I don't blame em! It's their money, they can do whatever they want with it. The main thing is don't give anybody a hard time over what they decide. No reason to start drama about who gets a cut of someone else's jackpot or whatever. Thats just how it goes when you're running with the high rollers.

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Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 03:29:59 PM

Getting to X (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image is one of many tweets from the critics.

I don’t people seriously on social media platforms because they are just there to catch cruise. The same X (twitter) user who is calling out the winner of the bet for giving N100k to someone who didn’t really contribute to the game won might even do worse if he was to be the winner.

Anyone who wins an amount from gambling is not obligated to share his winnings with anyone in any ratio, he owns the money so he should decide who he give money to and any amount he wishes to give out. Giving out money would still depend on his relationship with the person, if it is his close friend then it is okay to give him more if he wishes but it still depends on the winner. Don’t forget we all have problems and they are never ending.

Quote from: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 03:29:59 PM

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

There is no ratio or percentage a winner should share his money with others just because they know about the game, anyone thinks he did the wrong thing should go ahead and win his own game and not share with anyone. It depends on the person who win, we all have different hearts and habits and our charity habits varies so we shouldn’t criticize others decisions they did their best even though we think their best is not enough but at least we should appreciate them.

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Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on November 03, 2023, 10:22:46 AM

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I am also one of the person that this winner gave very little money to the guy.I would have given much more and I am not just bullshiting here,I am saying the truth as if I win a million dollar and the idea is given to me by someone else and this win is in great part thanks to him,I would give him as a bare minimum 50.000-100.000 dollars which is 5-10% which is what should be the ideal amount to be given to such persons.I know any amount is an appreciation but very little amounts are no appreciation at all in my idea.

5 to 10% is the ideal amount? who the hell said that?

I think this is about personal preference of a person tipping others who gave him the hints and tips about the bet he won. I would also do the same in gratitude to that person's information that lead me to a huge win. But if the person has done nothing and I just wanted to tip him out of generosity, I think a hundred dollar out of million dollar won is more than enough.

Quote from: Findingnemo on November 03, 2023, 10:22:46 AM

Winnings belongs to me and also I have to pay taxes to a government which is actually for the development of the country so legally I am paying what I am required then why I need to take the social pressure which is really none of anyone's business and as I said why you are waiting for win 1 Millions to donate 5-10%, why not pay from your pocket just now itself!

No one is forcing anyone to give tips to other people. As stated, this is a personal matter and your decision is your decision and other people is theirs. So it is a person's right to do whatever he wanted to his winnings and yes, other people should have no say how we use our winnings.

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Why the fuck are they so pressed about this man winning? Perhaps bet better next time? Lol. Matter of fact he's not obliged to give any of these people shit, cause for one, that's his own money to begin with, doesn't matter if that's 100 Naira or 1 Naira. That came out of his pocket and so whatever comes into him from that 100 is supposed to be his own.

I have made bets and won handsomely as well in the past, yes I gave people money as gratuity but these people I gave these to, deserved it every step of the way. Either they are friends who have been with me throughout the gambling journey, gave me advice, or generally just hung out with me when no one else would. Basically leave a seat at your table for people that deserve to eat with you.

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 03, 2023, 06:59:29 AM

The gambler made a considerabile donation. I don't understand why It should be blamed for the amount.
Morover Is not important "the amount" since I think the gesture has a strong value by itself.
It would be funny see people that are complaining in the same situation

When the gambler made the good winning from the casino,he ready to donate the money to the people organise the gambling in the name of the owner.The worker of the casino get some tips from the winner all the time.So being the worker of the casino,if you not get any commission from the other gambler,you should blame the other worker of you same casino.The gambler with enough money surely consider the excess money as the gift to them.So they probably do the donation like after the win from the gambling site.When the average economy person get into the gambling win,it’s hard to expect the same commission from that gambler.

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Completely agree with the op, This menace is something that has been going on in the gambling community for quit some time now, I mean a very long time now actually.

I remember way back 2013, I was working in a company back then, there was this guy who was ardent into lotto, he was a Forcaster as well, he one time forcasted some game numbers which another co - worker decided to play, he actually gave the co-worker some numbers, and he himself played another numbers altogether, later on, he lost but the co-worker won, the co-worker out of his own benevolence decided to give him 30 percent of the total money won, but the Forcaster insisted that they share the money equal - how greedy can some one be.

This incident later lead to a very serious fight in the factory that day, as the co-worker blatantly refused to share the money he won by 50 percent.

Some people actually feel this entitlement because they feel that without them sharing the game prediction to who ever won, the person wouldn't have won, meanwhile, the person must have paid an exorbitant fees to subscribe to the prediction service, and yet, when the person wins, they expect him or her to share the money, meanwhile, the person who shared the prediction must have also won and keep his or money to himself alone - the world is indeed filled with greedy people.

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What would they rather have him do? Not give a tip at all?
Sometimes you just cant satisfy people. You don't give a tip, you're greedy. You give a small tip, again you're greedy. You give a bigger tip, you're greedy again because you had so much money, so you give 50% of your whole win and then they'll say that you're spoiling the punter or that you throw money away like it was nothing.
Someone smart once said "fuck the society" and I agree. Whoever is giving this guy a hard time for giving a tip should get a life.

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It's really weird how some people feel entitled to someone else's gains from gambling. You should accept the person's right to be alone who took a chance and won. This is to make it clear: gambling is a personal choice, as is whether to share the gains or not. Let's stop acting like we deserve things. It's not helpful, fair, or right

It’s not weird anymore. It’s plain crazy on how people can feel entitled to your money and can have opinions on how best to spend your money.
In this case, the winner being very happy, gave money to someone who didn’t deserve it. The man who booked in the game is just plain greedy and thinks he deserves a share of the winnings. People like these deserve nothing from anyone and his greed can and would get him nothing from other players who are also regulars there going forward.

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