Topic: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings. - page 7. (Read 977 times)

Friend I think you are missing the point of op which is basically on entitlement mentality of other gamblers not satisfied of the freewill gift given by another gambler to them because he won his bet. I think he was happy winning his bet and out of his magnimity decided to give some part of his winning to them. So that is the point if discuss.

But talking about taxing of gambling houses, yes they are taxed like other companies in Nigeria but although I believe tax evasion is high in Nigeria because of corruption.

That's what I am going to do if I am the winner, it should be better if your victory is known by a few important person in my life only, So that I can distance myself from people who might stick with me because they know I am the winner... One of the reason as well, is to protect my privacy since it might be dangerous if the news was cascaded to others. Well, sharing little amount of money from your winning prize became a tradition in Gambling, Considering as a Lucky charm for others, but It really depends to the winner if they want to give some to other gamblers in the playing area or not.

The gambler made a considerabile donation. I don't understand why It should be blamed for the amount.
Morover Is not important "the amount" since I think the gesture has a strong value by itself.
It would be funny see people that are complaining in the same situation

If I was the winner, I would tell a few people and it would be better to hide the victory from many people. Maybe I will tell the people closest to me and invite them to celebrate the win. I also wouldn't spread it on social media because that would only attract more people and they would ask for a share even though they didn't like gambling. It was normal that when someone became a winner from gambling, there would be many people who would praise him and say good things to the winner. They really hope to get a small share of the winning money. And the winner also doesn't have to share their winnings if they don't want to.

This is an issue with the country's regulators. Why such a poor country as Nigeria has allowed betting to become so widespread and accessible even more than food is beyond me... If there are resources in Nigeria to build up such a large empire for betting, the government should also tax its profits and invest in oversight. Betting companies should be forced to give back to sports themselves  because in reality its the athletes that provide all the entertainment and content that  betting is built upon...

So if this is an issue of anything, it's an issue of corruption. The government is corrupt for letting megarocps take advantage of its people so freely without giving much if anything back. So I would never put the blame on the individual gambler.

If ever I win the jackpot prize, I treat people but not to the point that I force myself to spend huge amounts for them, they will accept whatever amount I can give.

Maybe we can say it was normal in some countries and common practices and it is okay. However, it is necessary to help these people change their approach and mindset about it because soon, it will become their habit. In fact, if you lose, they won't help you either nor give you some money but when you win, they'll be going to reach you and ask for something.

The guy has all the right to allocate the amount that he wants to give to anyone, and he has no obligation to answer people questioning him on the amount he is giving it's his privilege because he is the winner, we all can feel the gambler's decision it's not easy to win huge in gambling you will have to lose a lot of money first suffer a lot of frustration and you have to be extremely lucky to win that amount, they never see the amount you invest and the agony of losing a lot of money trying to win big.

Those who ask from the winners do not understand what gamblers are going through so they should be contented with the amount, It is the gambler's family and close friends who support him are the ones who deserve to receive a big part of his winning.

That's right, although this may be a way to strengthen friendships in one environment but still basically there is no rule that mandates that every gambler must share their winnings with others including their friends, and for their friends also should not force winning gamblers to share their winnings for any reason, if indeed they don't want to give a penny then don't make this a problem, because after all it's their luck and they are free to use and allocate the money from their winnings wherever they want.

But basically in the real world, this small thing can really be a problem in a friendship environment, especially between those who are fellow gamblers. Honestly for myself I am not too uncomfortable with this kind of problem, usually I will only give one of my friends who knows a sign of gratitude, for example when I get a win then I will give that person a little of the amount I won and if later he gets a win then he will also tell me and give a little of his winnings, but I will not be careless to give the proceeds of this victory to others, and as I mentioned I will only give to people who can also help me when I am in trouble, more or less like that.

People should respect each other's choices and not feel entitled to someone else's winnings. It's all about personal preference and being cool with one another in the gambling scene. Sometimes, people might feel like they deserve a share especially if they were present or part of the gambling session but it really comes down to your own choice. Sharing is a nice gesture, but it's not a requirement.
I doubt these kind of people would give away a bigger portion of their winnings. How you share your money says something about the winner’s character but let him be. We dont know everyone’s story.

I am also one of the person that this winner gave very little money to the guy.I would have given much more and I am not just bullshiting here,I am saying the truth as if I win a million dollar and the idea is given to me by someone else and this win is in great part thanks to him,I would give him as a bare minimum 50.000-100.000 dollars which is 5-10% which is what should be the ideal amount to be given to such persons.I know any amount is an appreciation but very little amounts are no appreciation at all in my idea.

I believe punter as means those who are also gamblers there. So as the story goes, those punters or gamblers that are aware he won some money not the gambling agent working there . So most times it is usually the tradition that winners try to give money to those other gamblers which could mean to encourage them to continue and that winning is real especially for new gamblers, such winning confirm to them that tomorrow they can also win.

So I believe you missed the point of the punters, they are the other gamblers around there or those that the money was given to.

a common occurrence that often occurs when a gambler wins big and donates a little money to other people but still feels that it is not equivalent to what he got and gives a lot of bad criticism and it happens not only in gambling, I have experienced this when bullish arrives my assets became higher in price and I suddenly had a lot of money and tried to give someone the amount I thought was appropriate but it turned out to be a problem because he knew the amount I got so he seemed to want to ask for more than I gave but in a way the bad ones give harsh criticism but I consider it just nonsense, the most important thing is my good intentions.

In this case, I sometimes relate to how important it is to secret gambling activities. when you get a big win, no one will know and no one will beg in any way.

This money was won by the gambler and not the punter. The expectations of the punter should be satisfying. It is the decision of the gambler to either appreciate the punter or not. The question is, was the pointer not paid to do her job? Am not really happy to hear some comment supporting that the gambler was greedy and he would have given the punter more money. Most gamblers wont have appreciated or anyone no matter the amount won, I considered that particular gambler a generous person regardless that they have tagged him to be ruthless.

This is one if the disadvantages of visiting a casino to gamble, you will have to settle unnecessary people who aren't present when you are losing your money, for gamblers they are useless people when they are losing money, and once they win a very big amount of money people will want to be part of that, it's a crazy world.

It is left for the gambler to make his decision, only him can decide if he is going to give money to some people or not, but for his safety it's better he do it because this days people are losing their minds, they can decide to hurt him by zeroing their mind that he is a greedy bastard, the heart of man turn into evil straight away when it comes to money.

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Apart from being a gambler some people who don't care about you when you are struggling hard will still feel entitled when things turn around for you and they are no more in the same position they used to, the audacity they have to come asking you for something when they don't help you at your own difficulty time is an act of shameless.

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Like I've just said, if this man want peace of mind he should settle whoever feels entitled in the area, people are lamenting this days and they will do anything to satisfy their mind, do not be a tool for them to satisfy their evil thoughts, give no room to evil, he should learn how to avoid this next time by using online gambling websites instead.

A donation, charity, and other such works are based on the interest of every individual so one who criticises that the gambler donated a small amount has the guys to donate the same amount and prove they are better in their heart?

They won't so just don't hear those non-sense at all and paying attention to such critiques will encourage them to do more of such stupid arguments.

Assuming the gambler lost the said amount that he won, will the entitlement guy give the gambler back a little amount of money? People are just ungrateful and fail to understand what generosity means. I don't blame them, they feel because he didn't work hard to make such huge money, and it was luck that did it in a very short time and that is why they feel that it is their right to benefit from it. I only see the gambler as a good person that recognized the fact that he won his bet from that bet shop and chose to give the guy something to buy drink and the guy thinks that it is his right.

The popular demand by most people in gambling houses from anyone who gets massive winning is very disgusting to me because when people comes to the gambling houses and losses their money, they don't get sympathetic refunds from anyone.
I happen to witness an event where a gambler won a huge amount of money in a gambling house and because of the too much request from people around there to share the money he got, he decided not to give anyone a dime from his winning despite all the negative names they were calling him. People can feel entitled to a one's winning but the ability to not give any entitled person anything from the winning I think is a good way to discipline them on that behavior.

As you've said, in appreciation for doing nothing, he wishes to give him the money with reasons best known to him, afterall no one forces him against his wish, if we are to also consider the amount involved, it's nothing much that should be a concern, many people have won gambling and refused to give anyone anything, while some also won and spent over half of the money together with others in celebration and fun, we have our decision to make, it's our money and whatever thing we do should be intentional because there will always be a repercussions ahead.

This is indeed nonsense, even 75:25 is still nonsense because there is no obligation for anyone who succeeds in winning a lot of money from gambling to share it with anyone and if there are gamblers who do it, it is only a personal initiative and cannot be used as a standard rule that all gamblers must do the same thing, People who criticize the gambler only feel jealous and show it through criticism of what the gambler does, for whatever reason no one has the right to the gambler's winnings and how he shares and spends it is the gambler's business, not anyone else's.

There is nothing much to this. It is a usual practice in offline gambling house that when a gambler wins some money, he usually give out some money to those around when he came to cash it out or send some money to people/friends who are aware of the winning but are not around. Sometimes he keeps giving that little money or reserving something for special and close friends who are not around then. So, it is a normal and usual practice and a gambler who wins reasonable money and didn't do that is regarded as stingy, wicked or bad because he most have also partake in someone else's winning. That money is usually regarded as money for drink, therefore it is not abnormal.

However, the amount to give is totally at the discretion of the gambler who won the money and it is left to the punters to evaluate what was given in discussions around them (just like this is happening now that people are evaluating it) because it is not by force abinitio.

What is also given depends on the numbers of people there and the kind of people there whether they are close pals or strangers because people have a way to give to people they know and have personal relationship with and how they give to strangers, so it all depends.

For the amount given on this matter which is 100k from 15million, for me I don't think it is too small. Moreover, that gambler will have other persons he will gift to before having some plans on the money. It is all to the discretion of the giver anyway.