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Quote from: eisen33 on November 17, 2024, 07:14:01 AM

Quote from: Tmoonz on November 17, 2024, 06:33:48 AM

Funny enough even people who has made certain fortune in gambling was not an expert neither a pro, we don't have to be deceived that anyone has made fortune in gambling doesn't mean it is an act of professionalism it is luck that always decides our finals results what we know can only succeed in giving certain level of guide which has no guarantee as to this regards, there is nothing wrong keeping tracks of our gambling activities to enable us monitoring the time, resources and energy as part of staying within with a responsible gambling behaviors.

You can keep statistics using a spreadsheet, but I see that the casino also keeps statistics of your bets, you can see the number of bets, how many were winning, how many were losing, but this will be general statistics and if it is not enough, then of course it is better to think about keeping track of all bets in a spreadsheet. Because you can keep it yourself so that everything is clear to you and perhaps there will be some additional metrics that you need.

But if it is only important for the player to know the initial deposit, the number of winning bets and the final balance, then there is no great need for a spreadsheet.

On the one hand the spreadsheets we create are more detailed for our gambling process, instead of the records from the casino. On the other hand, these records continue to reflect ideal conditions, more precisely, this detailed recording is aiming for us to look at the loops, the steps that can become a winner, also can say we are gradually turning it into more professional but that is also where indirectly creates confinement and stereotypes in thinking, these numbers are very random, the more we think about taking advantage of the numbers, the more selfish we are and the more likely we are to fail by playing like that.

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It takes a lot of practice to perfect it. Honestly, it’s just human nature, we’re naturally lazy and get discouraged easily. If we are going through a losing streak, it’s normal to feel tired or even skip recording them in your spreadsheet because most of us only like seeing wins. But the thing is, if we don’t change that mindset, we’re not going to get anywhere (real talk).... Consistency is key, even when it’s tough, tracking the losses is just as important as tracking the wins... it helps you learn, adjust, and eventually improve.

Exactly as you wrote, I totally agree with you... Practice makes perfect! And it's true that we easily get discouraged when everything doesn't go according to plan and we lose more than we gain, and in those moments we need to stay focused and strong. I gave up because of that reason, but I also gave up because I couldn't find enough free time and energy in certain moments. I guess it's easy to find an excuse, what's hard is to push through some difficult periods.

In any case, anything is possible if one is consistent and manages to overcome all obstacles... as you wrote, it requires a change of mindset, and over time one can learn a lot.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 17, 2024, 06:33:26 AM

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As long as we’re not lazy, we can do this. Start with a small amount if you’re not fully confident in your sports betting skills yet. Most crypto sportsbooks have a minimum bet of around $1, so even with a $100 bankroll and a 1% stake per bet, you’re off to a solid start. Then, after the whole season, whatever league you’re betting on, take some time to evaluate your performance and see if you’re profitable or not. If not, make the right adjustments and try again in the next season, and keep going until you find success. Like I said, just don’t be lazy, and stay focused on your goal of becoming a profitable sports bettor.

I would emphasize this "as long as we are not lazy". That's usually the biggest problem, getting ourselves to move and do something. Another big problem is consistency, once we start we have to repeat it every time we bet... I tried several times and every time I stopped after a week or two. Usually what happens is that I postpone it once, then one more time, and then just leave it. The third problem is patience! I have no patience for long-term sports betting... I easily decide to play slots or some other games, then my balance goes up or down. I have never had a balance just for sports betting.

So, it's actually a good thing to track bets with a spreadsheet, but not everyone can do it... at least it's hard for me. I will probably give it a try in the future again but for now, I will simply enjoy betting without tracking my bets.

It takes a lot of practice to perfect it. Honestly, it’s just human nature, we’re naturally lazy and get discouraged easily. If we are going through a losing streak, it’s normal to feel tired or even skip recording them in your spreadsheet because most of us only like seeing wins. But the thing is, if we don’t change that mindset, we’re not going to get anywhere (real talk).... Consistency is key, even when it’s tough, tracking the losses is just as important as tracking the wins... it helps you learn, adjust, and eventually improve.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 17, 2024, 07:03:21 AM

I don't think it's slothfulness, some people might not have the time to start evaluating their gambling activities over a period of time. However, I see it as a good habit especially if you are a high roller. It will help in making the right decision that can strengthen your gambling activities. The amount I use for gambling is negligible, so I don't see this process as important. But sometimes when I am less busy, I just glance through my transactions or bet history to see how far I have fared.

I believe that this practice will be more essential to potential gambler and not unseriou gamblers like myself. Sometimes I could stay even up to a month without having any spare time to bet and sometimes it could be just a few times in a month but for a potential gambler who gamblers all day and all the time, I think this practice will help them a lot.

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Quote from: salad daging on November 17, 2024, 09:05:59 AM

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Quote from: eisen33 on November 17, 2024, 07:14:01 AM

You can keep statistics using a spreadsheet, but I see that the casino also keeps statistics of your bets, you can see the number of bets, how many were winning, how many were losing, but this will be general statistics and if it is not enough, then of course it is better to think about keeping track of all bets in a spreadsheet. Because you can keep it yourself so that everything is clear to you and perhaps there will be some additional metrics that you need.

The main reason we keep our own spreadsheet is that the betting history provided by sportsbooks under our accounts isn’t detailed enough for proper analysis. With a custom spreadsheet, we can tailor it to meet our needs and even tweak it over time as our strategies evolve. On the other hand, the history in casino accounts is fixed to their design, so we don’t have the flexibility to adjust or add the details we want. Having our own system just makes everything more efficient and personalized.

Yeah the statistical data from the casino will not be as detailed as we want they just use the overall data differently if we make our own spreadsheet then the needs will be adjusted to the records that we want in a more detailed and easy to understand manner.

Sometimes, gamblers check out different sportsbooks to hunt for the best odds. Why? Because better odds mean bigger returns or a higher chance of winning. So, if you are serious, you cannot just rely in one sportsbook for your sports betting records.

Quote from: salad daging on November 17, 2024, 09:05:59 AM

We can even see the percentage of winning and losing opportunities more clearly that we do in the spreadsheet, but do you do that? I am now still lazy to do it, this is an activity that cannot be done, even though there is free time there are always bets that are missed to be recorded in the spreadsheet so this becomes lazy.

We’ll never make it as successful sports bettors if we’re lazy. They say if you’re serious about sports betting and aiming for long-term profits, treat it like a job, a boring one at that, rather than just a way to make watching games more exciting.

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My biggest lesson is that have a spreadsheet is one thing, keeping to rules is the other.

Of course, it is not easy to follow the rules, especially in gambling, which is initially perceived by many as easy money, but as we know, this is only on the surface. You need to be ready to accept the full depth of experiences, wagering and a streak of bad luck without breaking down mentally.

I tried to maintain discipline and play before, but if I could do it in the first few days, then after a week or two everything collapsed and it is even difficult for me to say why exactly this happened. Maybe I have weak willpower and I cannot stand discipline for a long time, or something else. In the end, I want to say that those who succeed are really like robots who go to their goal and nothing can stop them. If there is something other than luck in gambling, it is willpower and tracking our bets, that can allow you to win.

Yes. I took lessons from my previous failure l and I'm going to start the challenge again and this time, the prime focus would be more on following and executing based on my rules and less on other minor details like odds. Etc. Also, I would spend time to go through the picks on my sheet that went bad and sew what I could do right on my next bet. My goal is to learn, try different strategies till I get a good win rate off a particular strategy and double down on it.

And yes, it takes plenty of grit and willpower.

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We can even see the percentage of winning and losing opportunities more clearly that we do in the spreadsheet, but do you do that? I am now still lazy to do it, this is an activity that cannot be done, even though there is free time there are always bets that are missed to be recorded in the spreadsheet so this becomes lazy.

If you mean tracking the bets in slot games, it's really crazy if someone want to track that. What if you have 1K bets lol, there's no point to track it except you're want to create bots and use bet history in order to learn the pattern.

I think tracking bets is for skill based games like sports or poker, it won't really consume a lot time and it's still possible.

But, since I value my time, I do view it as a wasting time.

What I mean is tracking bets in sports, but will not track bets on slots, dice, plinko or luck-based games this is crazy if we track it, it will add to the impression of stress later because we know in the games mentioned it loses more. Lol

Any sports betting tracking we can do in every session and the time to do it is still possible than tracking slot bets.

Right, I think I agree with this, it would be a waste of time to do it, so I prefer to do other things instead of tracking bets.

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Quote from: salad daging on November 17, 2024, 09:05:59 AM

We can even see the percentage of winning and losing opportunities more clearly that we do in the spreadsheet, but do you do that? I am now still lazy to do it, this is an activity that cannot be done, even though there is free time there are always bets that are missed to be recorded in the spreadsheet so this becomes lazy.

If you mean tracking the bets in slot games, it's really crazy if someone want to track that. What if you have 1K bets lol, there's no point to track it except you're want to create bots and use bet history in order to learn the pattern.

I think tracking bets is for skill based games like sports or poker, it won't really consume a lot time and it's still possible.

But, since I value my time, I do view it as a wasting time.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 17, 2024, 07:57:29 AM

Quote from: eisen33 on November 17, 2024, 07:14:01 AM

You can keep statistics using a spreadsheet, but I see that the casino also keeps statistics of your bets, you can see the number of bets, how many were winning, how many were losing, but this will be general statistics and if it is not enough, then of course it is better to think about keeping track of all bets in a spreadsheet. Because you can keep it yourself so that everything is clear to you and perhaps there will be some additional metrics that you need.

The main reason we keep our own spreadsheet is that the betting history provided by sportsbooks under our accounts isn’t detailed enough for proper analysis. With a custom spreadsheet, we can tailor it to meet our needs and even tweak it over time as our strategies evolve. On the other hand, the history in casino accounts is fixed to their design, so we don’t have the flexibility to adjust or add the details we want. Having our own system just makes everything more efficient and personalized.

Yeah the statistical data from the casino will not be as detailed as we want they just use the overall data differently if we make our own spreadsheet then the needs will be adjusted to the records that we want in a more detailed and easy to understand manner.

We can even see the percentage of winning and losing opportunities more clearly that we do in the spreadsheet, but do you do that? I am now still lazy to do it, this is an activity that cannot be done, even though there is free time there are always bets that are missed to be recorded in the spreadsheet so this becomes lazy.

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Quote from: eisen33 on November 17, 2024, 07:14:01 AM

You can keep statistics using a spreadsheet, but I see that the casino also keeps statistics of your bets, you can see the number of bets, how many were winning, how many were losing, but this will be general statistics and if it is not enough, then of course it is better to think about keeping track of all bets in a spreadsheet. Because you can keep it yourself so that everything is clear to you and perhaps there will be some additional metrics that you need.

The main reason we keep our own spreadsheet is that the betting history provided by sportsbooks under our accounts isn’t detailed enough for proper analysis. With a custom spreadsheet, we can tailor it to meet our needs and even tweak it over time as our strategies evolve. On the other hand, the history in casino accounts is fixed to their design, so we don’t have the flexibility to adjust or add the details we want. Having our own system just makes everything more efficient and personalized.

Quote from: eisen33 on November 17, 2024, 07:14:01 AM

But if it is only important for the player to know the initial deposit, the number of winning bets and the final balance, then there is no great need for a spreadsheet.

So, which sportsbooks actually let you see all the details, including whether you're in profit or loss and by how much? I'd love to check them out.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on November 04, 2024, 03:46:01 AM

I like the idea and it is for people who really care about making a fortune from gambling. This will be too much for me, because I gamble when I am free in my leisure time with the money that I can afford to lose.

I have a gambling budget for my gambling activities, and I don't want to be a professional gambler because no matter how you try to find different ways to outsmart gambling, you will still lose more than the amount you will win in the long run. You cannot win the desired money you want but you can limit your losses by gambling responsible and stop at the right time.

This is not all about being professional with gambling but since you are gambling with your hard-earned money, at least you should also be accountable of your own funds. I don’t see this compulsory for gamblers but practicing this could also create a big help with your finances. Being able to track your losses and wins, not only will help you analyze the patterns and trends in your games, but most especially it will help you improve your betting performance, and not just simply relying on luck alone.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on November 17, 2024, 06:33:48 AM

Funny enough even people who has made certain fortune in gambling was not an expert neither a pro, we don't have to be deceived that anyone has made fortune in gambling doesn't mean it is an act of professionalism it is luck that always decides our finals results what we know can only succeed in giving certain level of guide which has no guarantee as to this regards, there is nothing wrong keeping tracks of our gambling activities to enable us monitoring the time, resources and energy as part of staying within with a responsible gambling behaviors.

You can keep statistics using a spreadsheet, but I see that the casino also keeps statistics of your bets, you can see the number of bets, how many were winning, how many were losing, but this will be general statistics and if it is not enough, then of course it is better to think about keeping track of all bets in a spreadsheet. Because you can keep it yourself so that everything is clear to you and perhaps there will be some additional metrics that you need.

But if it is only important for the player to know the initial deposit, the number of winning bets and the final balance, then there is no great need for a spreadsheet.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 11, 2024, 10:36:12 AM

As long as we’re not lazy, we can do this. Start with a small amount if you’re not fully confident in your sports betting skills yet. Most crypto sportsbooks have a minimum bet of around $1, so even with a $100 bankroll and a 1% stake per bet, you’re off to a solid start. Then, after the whole season, whatever league you’re betting on, take some time to evaluate your performance and see if you’re profitable or not. If not, make the right adjustments and try again in the next season, and keep going until you find success. Like I said, just don’t be lazy, and stay focused on your goal of becoming a profitable sports bettor.

I don't think it's slothfulness, some people might not have the time to start evaluating their gambling activities over a period of time. However, I see it as a good habit especially if you are a high roller. It will help in making the right decision that can strengthen your gambling activities. The amount I use for gambling is negligible, so I don't see this process as important. But sometimes when I am less busy, I just glance through my transactions or bet history to see how far I have fared.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on November 04, 2024, 03:46:01 AM

I like the idea and it is for people who really care about making a fortune from gambling. This will be too much for me, because I gamble when I am free in my leisure time with the money that I can afford to lose.

I have a gambling budget for my gambling activities, and I don't want to be a professional gambler because no matter how you try to find different ways to outsmart gambling, you will still lose more than the amount you will win in the long run. You cannot win the desired money you want but you can limit your losses by gambling responsible and stop at the right time.

Funny enough even people who has made certain fortune in gambling was not an expert neither a pro, we don't have to be deceived that anyone has made fortune in gambling doesn't mean it is an act of professionalism it is luck that always decides our finals results what we know can only succeed in giving certain level of guide which has no guarantee as to this regards, there is nothing wrong keeping tracks of our gambling activities to enable us monitoring the time, resources and energy as part of staying within with a responsible gambling behaviors.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 11, 2024, 10:36:12 AM

As long as we’re not lazy, we can do this. Start with a small amount if you’re not fully confident in your sports betting skills yet. Most crypto sportsbooks have a minimum bet of around $1, so even with a $100 bankroll and a 1% stake per bet, you’re off to a solid start. Then, after the whole season, whatever league you’re betting on, take some time to evaluate your performance and see if you’re profitable or not. If not, make the right adjustments and try again in the next season, and keep going until you find success. Like I said, just don’t be lazy, and stay focused on your goal of becoming a profitable sports bettor.

I would emphasize this "as long as we are not lazy". That's usually the biggest problem, getting ourselves to move and do something. Another big problem is consistency, once we start we have to repeat it every time we bet... I tried several times and every time I stopped after a week or two. Usually what happens is that I postpone it once, then one more time, and then just leave it. The third problem is patience! I have no patience for long-term sports betting... I easily decide to play slots or some other games, then my balance goes up or down. I have never had a balance just for sports betting.

So, it's actually a good thing to track bets with a spreadsheet, but not everyone can do it... at least it's hard for me. I will probably give it a try in the future again but for now, I will simply enjoy betting without tracking my bets.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on November 16, 2024, 12:58:49 PM

Quote from: Botnake on November 04, 2024, 03:37:31 AM

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So, sports bettors, has it ever crossed your mind to keep a spreadsheet?

I had this plan on my mind since last year and I didn't execute it until last month. So I started tracking my bets on a sheet and it included data for stuffs I need to adhere to. Foe instance:

1.5 to 3 odds max per bet (single or parley)
Fixed amount to bet each game.

The goal was that 1 win should be enough to cover at least 2 losses. I complied in the beginning but things started to mess up when I had back to back losses thanks to major upsets in the EPL. I fell back to old patterns by trying to recoup loses quickly with a later fixture. Lost again and from there on, it was a downward spiral..

My biggest lesson is that have a spreadsheet is one thing, keeping to rules is the other.

Of course, it is not easy to follow the rules, especially in gambling, which is initially perceived by many as easy money, but as we know, this is only on the surface. You need to be ready to accept the full depth of experiences, wagering and a streak of bad luck without breaking down mentally.

I tried to maintain discipline and play before, but if I could do it in the first few days, then after a week or two everything collapsed and it is even difficult for me to say why exactly this happened. Maybe I have weak willpower and I cannot stand discipline for a long time, or something else. In the end, I want to say that those who succeed are really like robots who go to their goal and nothing can stop them. If there is something other than luck in gambling, it is willpower and tracking our bets, that can allow you to win.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on November 16, 2024, 12:58:49 PM

Quote from: Botnake on November 04, 2024, 03:37:31 AM

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So, sports bettors, has it ever crossed your mind to keep a spreadsheet?

I had this plan on my mind since last year and I didn't execute it until last month. So I started tracking my bets on a sheet and it included data for stuffs I need to adhere to. Foe instance:

1.5 to 3 odds max per bet (single or parley)
Fixed amount to bet each game.

The goal was that 1 win should be enough to cover at least 2 losses. I complied in the beginning but things started to mess up when I had back to back losses thanks to major upsets in the EPL. I fell back to old patterns by trying to recoup loses quickly with a later fixture. Lost again and from there on, it was a downward spiral..

My biggest lesson is that have a spreadsheet is one thing, keeping to rules is the other.

Bankroll management is crucial. Without discipline in your game plan, you risk losing all your money. The key is to stay conservative with your bets, stick to around 5% of your bankroll. If you do this, you’ll either last longer or eventually succeed.

Honestly, I don’t see an issue with the odds you mentioned. You can go for odds between 1.50 and 3.00 anytime, but never increase your stake just to recover losses. That’s not the goal. The real goal is to win over the long run, not to chase after short-term setbacks.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 04, 2024, 03:37:31 AM

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So, sports bettors, has it ever crossed your mind to keep a spreadsheet?

I had this plan on my mind since last year and I didn't execute it until last month. So I started tracking my bets on a sheet and it included data for stuffs I need to adhere to. Foe instance:

1.5 to 3 odds max per bet (single or parley)
Fixed amount to bet each game.

The goal was that 1 win should be enough to cover at least 2 losses. I complied in the beginning but things started to mess up when I had back to back losses thanks to major upsets in the EPL. I fell back to old patterns by trying to recoup loses quickly with a later fixture. Lost again and from there on, it was a downward spiral..

My biggest lesson is that have a spreadsheet is one thing, keeping to rules is the other.

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Quote from: coinerer on November 07, 2024, 03:02:24 PM

You can always download your monthly statistics snapshot from the site you gamble on to track your activity so I don't think it's a problem if you don't waste your time separately. But yes it is definitely better if you do this calculation manually so that you can keep track of your daily gambling activities which can be helpful for you to quit gambling at any time. Because only visible financial loss can force someone to stay away from gambling

Yes, that is a very good idea, but I Think that the context of all this to become a gaming professional I see it as something that does not fit much , of course I respect everyone's way of thinking, but if we see there is no pattern to follow, only that in the game most of the things that are done in a casino are random, it is not Quantifiable like having good luck at a certain moment , things Change when it comes to making sports bets because it depends on the degree of wisdom of the person about the sport and being up to date with even the Smallest thing that has to do with the sports players and Based on that draw conclusions that imply such security of making bets, it is not so easy.

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Quote from: crwth on November 06, 2024, 09:56:33 PM

This is a practical way to become better at sports betting. Knowing when and where you are lacking and probably in the long run. It's always best to study and see where you are lacking, and then you can start from there and improve. I believe it's the step to improve and get more consistent with yourself. Keep an eye on yourself and see if you are making mistakes in your decisions.

As long as we’re not lazy, we can do this. Start with a small amount if you’re not fully confident in your sports betting skills yet. Most crypto sportsbooks have a minimum bet of around $1, so even with a $100 bankroll and a 1% stake per bet, you’re off to a solid start. Then, after the whole season, whatever league you’re betting on, take some time to evaluate your performance and see if you’re profitable or not. If not, make the right adjustments and try again in the next season, and keep going until you find success. Like I said, just don’t be lazy, and stay focused on your goal of becoming a profitable sports bettor.

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