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Quote from: irsykes on November 23, 2024, 04:29:01 AM

data history is very important but must also be professional to be able to control yourself, history really helps us to know the limits of betting and not get carried away by ambition. because every data loss we must be able to improve from yesterday's loss, but the world of gambling is not always far from the fate of defeat is different from victory. experience is the best teacher for us to apply

You don’t need to be a pro to create a spreadsheet or control your emotions. Everyone starts as a newbie, and those so-called pros? They just learned over time and worked on themselves to become profitable. If they could do it, so can we. That’s the mindset we need, always remember, there’s no shortcut to success. In sports betting, if you believe it’s possible, you’re already halfway there.

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data history is very important but must also be professional to be able to control yourself, history really helps us to know the limits of betting and not get carried away by ambition. because every data loss we must be able to improve from yesterday's loss, but the world of gambling is not always far from the fate of defeat is different from victory. experience is the best teacher for us to apply

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on November 23, 2024, 03:55:22 AM

Keeping records of your gambling activities can be good to an extent, but how many of us can stick to that for long without being forgetful or lazy about entering the records of how our gambling betting went? There are things to consider doing in gambling; this is the least of it someone would ever think of doing. I can imagine myself creating a separate spreadsheet on my laptop for my gambling activities, whereby I know what to do weekly, to bring 3% of my weekly income to gamble. Is that what I should think of having a spreadsheet created of it? That doesn't make any sense to me

But are you a serious sports bettor as the OP claims? It looks like you are not. If you're betting 3% of your salary and it looks like you're doing it for entertainment, plus you're betting on casino games you don't need to be. Or rather I think in your case keeping a record with a spreadsheet would be silly. I gamble from time to time for entertainment and I don't do it but that's not the case the OP raises. In spots betting you can make money in the long run and one component of that would be to keep a record of what you are doing, as he says, although if you bet in one room I understand that the record would be right there in your history.

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Keeping records of your gambling activities can be good to an extent, but how many of us can stick to that for long without being forgetful or lazy about entering the records of how our gambling betting went? There are things to consider doing in gambling; this is the least of it someone would ever think of doing. I can imagine myself creating a separate spreadsheet on my laptop for my gambling activities, whereby I know what to do weekly, to bring 3% of my weekly income to gamble. Is that what I should think of having a spreadsheet created of it? That doesn't make any sense to me

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 22, 2024, 02:54:23 AM

I think even though only a few people record their gambling, or track their gambling, many people who gamble only think about how to win at that time, maybe sometimes they hallucinate by becoming a professional gambler but only a few people deepen their gambling to become a pro gambler. I myself have no intention and thoughts of becoming a professional gambler, because I think even if I am a pro at gambling, victory cannot be obtained consistently.
I do not discourage those who want to become professional in gambling, because that is the right of each, keep doing what you want but don't forget about yourself too, we have to worry about ourselves because only we are responsible for the actions we take. With those who like to record their gambling activities, I wonder if victory is more often obtained than defeat or not at all.

It is okay if they want to learn to become a pro gambler but they must know the consequences that they can get from gambling. Many people lose their money when they want to become a pro gambler but not many people can continue their lesson to become a pro. It needs many things before they can become a pro and that could be much money to practice their lesson so it is better they check on themselves if they can accept anything bad happen from gambling because that will not easy to become a pro gambler.

They must learn from other people experience in their journey to become a pro so they know that they will face much losses but no guarantee they can become a pro. That is why we must responsible with our gambling activity and not use too much money if we can not accept the losses.

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Quote from: Koadharber on November 22, 2024, 03:38:24 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 22, 2024, 02:54:23 AM

I think even though only a few people record their gambling, or track their gambling, many people who gamble only think about how to win at that time, maybe sometimes they hallucinate by becoming a professional gambler but only a few people deepen their gambling to become a pro gambler. I myself have no intention and thoughts of becoming a professional gambler, because I think even if I am a pro at gambling, victory cannot be obtained consistently.
I do not discourage those who want to become professional in gambling, because that is the right of each, keep doing what you want but don't forget about yourself too, we have to worry about ourselves because only we are responsible for the actions we take. With those who like to record their gambling activities, I wonder if victory is more often obtained than defeat or not at all.

All kind of assumptions and other similar aspects is something that a new bettor or gambler would really be that thinking into on which we know that when it comes into this aspect on where there would be those gamblers or bettors who would really be not thinking or minding too much on having those kind of tracking as long they would really be able to enjoy on what they are doing then this is something that they will be preferring into. There would really be those times or moments that you might be that having those kind of thinking on where you have lost too much. If you are someone whose really that wanting to have on track on everything then having this kind of spreadsheet will really be that helpful on this case. If you are really that having those kind of preference then it would really be that up to you.

Do you mean someone who bets without hesitation without any objection to placing a bet even though it is very risky?

Beginners who are usually new to gambling usually do not consider the actions they will take, especially if they already think that they will be able to win the gambling, it can make them act hastily without any consideration that should be done first to minimize the risk later.

Well, I myself honestly did not think about recording the gambling activities that I did, but one time I was daydreaming, there was a thought and curiosity that arose in me about how much money I had lost in gambling, I only thought about what I remembered and it was quite large, if I did remember everything in detail, maybe I would be surprised by the results hahaha. Cheesy

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 21, 2024, 11:47:16 AM

Spreadsheets are a good way to track anything whether it be for betting or tracking expenses.
The good thing is that casino sites provide this data easily which makes it easier for us to create these spreadsheets.
But we need consistency to keep a track of this data and only then we will be able to use it for our benefit.
If we are not consistent enough then we will lose track of it and all of it will just be a waste of time and effort.

yes, that's true
and for the old school folks they can use notebooks but these will be much worse for formulas, even a simple thing like =SUM() saves up a lot of work

make it a habit, this is the way for consistency
like you probably brush your teeth everyday no matter what happens, this is a basic thing

make tracking and not sabotaging yourself a basic thing

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 21, 2024, 11:47:16 AM

Spreadsheets are a good way to track anything whether it be for betting or tracking expenses.
The good thing is that casino sites provide this data easily which makes it easier for us to create these spreadsheets.
But we need consistency to keep a track of this data and only then we will be able to use it for our benefit.
If we are not consistent enough then we will lose track of it and all of it will just be a waste of time and effort.

An easy way to track our own bets made in a spreadsheet, I'm sure some people do that and want to know about how much they win and lose, then in this spreadsheet data, everything will be known.

For people who are consistent may be able to track bets, but I myself do not do it, let it be because gambling is for fun and ready to lose so therefore never use any data to track bets.

If you make data to track bets then there is a disciplined gambler who pays attention to your bets.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 22, 2024, 02:54:23 AM

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 21, 2024, 10:15:57 AM

Exactly, maybe we can do it for the first few days or weeks but once it is running for months, we may start to get bored or laziness will come that make as lazy to continue the track.
Frankly speaking, this kind of spreadsheet for tracking our bets requires us to spend more time because we need to update the spreadsheet after we place the bets and after the bets are settled.
Tracking our bets is like a double-edged sword because at one side it can be used to control us but at the other side it may lead us into something bad especially when we know that we are on deep loss and it forces ourselves to chase for the loss.

The laziness can happen to us after we don't see a good outcome from gambling and may decide to stop recording our gambling activity. Only those who really want to control themselves in gambling will still record what they do in gambling even though they know if that is hard to do. But everything will come back to each people whether they want to record their gambling activity or don't want to do that because they think they can still handle themselves with right. That needs more effort to keep recording their gambling activity from time to time so they can see how good the result that they can get from gambling.

I think even though only a few people record their gambling, or track their gambling, many people who gamble only think about how to win at that time, maybe sometimes they hallucinate by becoming a professional gambler but only a few people deepen their gambling to become a pro gambler. I myself have no intention and thoughts of becoming a professional gambler, because I think even if I am a pro at gambling, victory cannot be obtained consistently.
I do not discourage those who want to become professional in gambling, because that is the right of each, keep doing what you want but don't forget about yourself too, we have to worry about ourselves because only we are responsible for the actions we take. With those who like to record their gambling activities, I wonder if victory is more often obtained than defeat or not at all.

All kind of assumptions and other similar aspects is something that a new bettor or gambler would really be that thinking into on which we know that when it comes into this aspect on where there would be those gamblers or bettors who would really be not thinking or minding too much on having those kind of tracking as long they would really be able to enjoy on what they are doing then this is something that they will be preferring into. There would really be those times or moments that you might be that having those kind of thinking on where you have lost too much. If you are someone whose really that wanting to have on track on everything then having this kind of spreadsheet will really be that helpful on this case. If you are really that having those kind of preference then it would really be that up to you.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 22, 2024, 01:41:57 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on November 21, 2024, 10:15:57 AM

Exactly, maybe we can do it for the first few days or weeks but once it is running for months, we may start to get bored or laziness will come that make as lazy to continue the track.
Frankly speaking, this kind of spreadsheet for tracking our bets requires us to spend more time because we need to update the spreadsheet after we place the bets and after the bets are settled.
Tracking our bets is like a double-edged sword because at one side it can be used to control us but at the other side it may lead us into something bad especially when we know that we are on deep loss and it forces ourselves to chase for the loss.

The laziness can happen to us after we don't see a good outcome from gambling and may decide to stop recording our gambling activity. Only those who really want to control themselves in gambling will still record what they do in gambling even though they know if that is hard to do. But everything will come back to each people whether they want to record their gambling activity or don't want to do that because they think they can still handle themselves with right. That needs more effort to keep recording their gambling activity from time to time so they can see how good the result that they can get from gambling.

I think even though only a few people record their gambling, or track their gambling, many people who gamble only think about how to win at that time, maybe sometimes they hallucinate by becoming a professional gambler but only a few people deepen their gambling to become a pro gambler. I myself have no intention and thoughts of becoming a professional gambler, because I think even if I am a pro at gambling, victory cannot be obtained consistently.
I do not discourage those who want to become professional in gambling, because that is the right of each, keep doing what you want but don't forget about yourself too, we have to worry about ourselves because only we are responsible for the actions we take. With those who like to record their gambling activities, I wonder if victory is more often obtained than defeat or not at all.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 21, 2024, 10:15:57 AM

Exactly, maybe we can do it for the first few days or weeks but once it is running for months, we may start to get bored or laziness will come that make as lazy to continue the track.
Frankly speaking, this kind of spreadsheet for tracking our bets requires us to spend more time because we need to update the spreadsheet after we place the bets and after the bets are settled.
Tracking our bets is like a double-edged sword because at one side it can be used to control us but at the other side it may lead us into something bad especially when we know that we are on deep loss and it forces ourselves to chase for the loss.

The laziness can happen to us after we don't see a good outcome from gambling and may decide to stop recording our gambling activity. Only those who really want to control themselves in gambling will still record what they do in gambling even though they know if that is hard to do. But everything will come back to each people whether they want to record their gambling activity or don't want to do that because they think they can still handle themselves with right. That needs more effort to keep recording their gambling activity from time to time so they can see how good the result that they can get from gambling.

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Spreadsheets are a good way to track anything whether it be for betting or tracking expenses.
The good thing is that casino sites provide this data easily which makes it easier for us to create these spreadsheets.
But we need consistency to keep a track of this data and only then we will be able to use it for our benefit.
If we are not consistent enough then we will lose track of it and all of it will just be a waste of time and effort.

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that's definitely true
by the short time I was doing sports betting I usually tracked everything and studied my wins, big wins, losses and big losses so I could learn with my past mistakes and improve my game

definitely helps

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That's really a low effort spreadsheet, if they bothered to make an article about it they could have made it way better.
First, you would need to separate the bets by sports, then by single parlay bets, at least three sheets, then and only then start tracking bets by type and team as things like bankroll at the start of the day and at the end of the day are quite useless since you can have one match pulling all the weight that will screw the statistics forever.

I'm not saying keeping track of your bets is a bad idea, the amount you bet should always be a priority but if you're going to use those stats to find out where you excel and where you totally suck that's not the way to do it, there are paid and free sites that offer you a far better dashboard to analyze your history, betdiary for example.

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Quote from: Finestream on November 21, 2024, 10:21:15 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on November 21, 2024, 10:15:57 AM

Tracking our bets is like a double-edged sword because at one side it can be used to control us but at the other side it may lead us into something bad especially when we know that we are on deep loss and it forces ourselves to chase for the loss.

I don’t agree with that. This spreadsheet being a guide, if used properly, serves as a roadmap to show you exactly where you stand. It’s definitely more helpful to have this kind of tracking system than just gambling blindly. At least when you see that you’re losing a lot, you can decide to slow down and reassess. On the flip side if you’re winning, you can confidently be more aggressive, knowing your strategy is working.

You should take in consideration too that we have different decision making and behaves towards seeing our losses. Chasing loses was popular occurrences in gambling because people feel the urge to gamble whenever they experience losses or they knew that they are still down from their previous game.

This is the reason why I understand @panjul07 opinion towards being a double edged sword for tracking losses. Yes this is helpful to others that they can control their urges but a curse to those who have weak mind.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 21, 2024, 10:15:57 AM

Tracking our bets is like a double-edged sword because at one side it can be used to control us but at the other side it may lead us into something bad especially when we know that we are on deep loss and it forces ourselves to chase for the loss.

I don’t agree with that. This spreadsheet being a guide, if used properly, serves as a roadmap to show you exactly where you stand. It’s definitely more helpful to have this kind of tracking system than just gambling blindly. At least when you see that you’re losing a lot, you can decide to slow down and reassess. On the flip side if you’re winning, you can confidently be more aggressive, knowing your strategy is working.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 18, 2024, 08:13:49 AM

It takes a lot of practice to perfect it. Honestly, it’s just human nature, we’re naturally lazy and get discouraged easily. If we are going through a losing streak, it’s normal to feel tired or even skip recording them in your spreadsheet because most of us only like seeing wins. But the thing is, if we don’t change that mindset, we’re not going to get anywhere (real talk).... Consistency is key, even when it’s tough, tracking the losses is just as important as tracking the wins... it helps you learn, adjust, and eventually improve.

The laziness will be the point that makes us can not discipline to write or recording them in your spreadsheet. You will not want to do that especially when you lose many times in a several days. You will want to end the spreadsheet and start a new spreadsheet but this time, you will say to yourself that you will discipline to record your gambling activity. We will difficult to change our mindset to reduce our gambling activity because we still think that we have a chance to wins huge money. But in reality, we will not have a big chance instead will have a chance to lose many times. Having a spreadsheet to track your bet is a good idea but you need to know how to control yourself so you will not have to face a big lose which can make you don't want to record your gambling activity.

Exactly, maybe we can do it for the first few days or weeks but once it is running for months, we may start to get bored or laziness will come that make as lazy to continue the track.
Frankly speaking, this kind of spreadsheet for tracking our bets requires us to spend more time because we need to update the spreadsheet after we place the bets and after the bets are settled.
Tracking our bets is like a double-edged sword because at one side it can be used to control us but at the other side it may lead us into something bad especially when we know that we are on deep loss and it forces ourselves to chase for the loss.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 18, 2024, 08:13:49 AM

It takes a lot of practice to perfect it. Honestly, it’s just human nature, we’re naturally lazy and get discouraged easily. If we are going through a losing streak, it’s normal to feel tired or even skip recording them in your spreadsheet because most of us only like seeing wins. But the thing is, if we don’t change that mindset, we’re not going to get anywhere (real talk).... Consistency is key, even when it’s tough, tracking the losses is just as important as tracking the wins... it helps you learn, adjust, and eventually improve.

The laziness will be the point that makes us can not discipline to write or recording them in your spreadsheet. You will not want to do that especially when you lose many times in a several days. You will want to end the spreadsheet and start a new spreadsheet but this time, you will say to yourself that you will discipline to record your gambling activity. We will difficult to change our mindset to reduce our gambling activity because we still think that we have a chance to wins huge money. But in reality, we will not have a big chance instead will have a chance to lose many times. Having a spreadsheet to track your bet is a good idea but you need to know how to control yourself so you will not have to face a big lose which can make you don't want to record your gambling activity.

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Quote from: Gheka on November 18, 2024, 09:33:28 AM

On the one hand the spreadsheets we create are more detailed for our gambling process, instead of the records from the casino. On the other hand, these records continue to reflect ideal conditions, more precisely, this detailed recording is aiming for us to look at the loops, the steps that can become a winner, also can say we are gradually turning it into more professional but that is also where indirectly creates confinement and stereotypes in thinking, these numbers are very random, the more we think about taking advantage of the numbers, the more selfish we are and the more likely we are to fail by playing like that.

We control it because it’s our spreadsheet. If we rely solely on the casino’s records (which aren’t spreadsheets), and our account gets closed, we’ll lose all access to our betting history. That’s like starting from scratch! That’s why I don’t agree with gamblers saying spreadsheets aren’t important anymore for tracking your bets. Keeping your own record is always recommended.

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Quote from: eisen33 on November 17, 2024, 07:14:01 AM

Quote from: Tmoonz on November 17, 2024, 06:33:48 AM

Funny enough even people who has made certain fortune in gambling was not an expert neither a pro, we don't have to be deceived that anyone has made fortune in gambling doesn't mean it is an act of professionalism it is luck that always decides our finals results what we know can only succeed in giving certain level of guide which has no guarantee as to this regards, there is nothing wrong keeping tracks of our gambling activities to enable us monitoring the time, resources and energy as part of staying within with a responsible gambling behaviors.

You can keep statistics using a spreadsheet, but I see that the casino also keeps statistics of your bets, you can see the number of bets, how many were winning, how many were losing, but this will be general statistics and if it is not enough, then of course it is better to think about keeping track of all bets in a spreadsheet. Because you can keep it yourself so that everything is clear to you and perhaps there will be some additional metrics that you need.

But if it is only important for the player to know the initial deposit, the number of winning bets and the final balance, then there is no great need for a spreadsheet.

On the one hand the spreadsheets we create are more detailed for our gambling process, instead of the records from the casino. On the other hand, these records continue to reflect ideal conditions, more precisely, this detailed recording is aiming for us to look at the loops, the steps that can become a winner, also can say we are gradually turning it into more professional but that is also where indirectly creates confinement and stereotypes in thinking, these numbers are very random, the more we think about taking advantage of the numbers, the more selfish we are and the more likely we are to fail by playing like that.

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