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bryant.coleman

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Quote from: miki77miki on October 17, 2015, 07:55:55 PM

Natural selection at work.

I am not so sure about it. Most of the people who commit suicide are young men or women of working age, with sufficient education and skills. Poor illiterate people seldom commit suicide. Death from drug addiction and alcoholism is natural selection. But death from suicide is not so. Suicide mostly affect those people who contribute to the society.

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Suicide is a horrible thing, and we as a community need to step up and help people. If we could help our family, our friends, our neighbours, co-workers, classmates, etc. when they need, and we show love, compassion and sympathy, we can make the world a better place.

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Quote from: miki77miki on October 17, 2015, 07:55:55 PM

Natural selection at work.

It is not just in the genes.
A lot more factors are at work in suicide - stress levels, financial problems, etc.

That said, the OP talks about aged people fasting to death. No natural selection taking place there

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stop kidding me

Natural selection at work.

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Quote from: pitham1 on September 13, 2015, 08:42:27 PM

Quote from: CoinFoxs on September 12, 2015, 12:00:10 PM

KARACHI: “All is fair in love and war” – a popular saying had its practical implication when a teenage schoolboy in Karachi committed suicide after his parents allegedly refused love-marriage.

http://arynews.tv/en/fallen-in-love-karachi-school-boy-shoots-girl-dead-later-kills-himself/

This bloke shot the girl he was in love with and then shot himself.
The murder should be making headlines, not the suicide.

I didn't get your point. Can you elaborate it ?

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I think that it is selfish under certain circumstances; they didn't tell anyone about their problems, and didn't offer anyone a chance to help them. This could make the parents or friends blame themselves for not seeing the problem. This could lead to a cluster suicide. I think that it isn't selfish and just their choice if they have tried everything they could. I don't support suicide at all.

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Ad maiora!

suicide is always a bad move. dont do it. there are always people who care about you even if you cant see. besides, you never know what tomorrow might bring.

they have polled suicide attempts who did not die and almost all of them said they acted in a moment of darkness, but were glad to be alive.

wait it out. you're going to be ok

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Quote from: CoinFoxs on September 12, 2015, 12:00:10 PM

KARACHI: “All is fair in love and war” – a popular saying had its practical implication when a teenage schoolboy in Karachi committed suicide after his parents allegedly refused love-marriage.

http://arynews.tv/en/fallen-in-love-karachi-school-boy-shoots-girl-dead-later-kills-himself/

This bloke shot the girl he was in love with and then shot himself.
The murder should be making headlines, not the suicide.

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" Suicide is just shortcut on the way we all going. " some people want to get there sooner some later. Where is freedom of choice if u can't decide everything about yourself.

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Suicide is the act of intentionally causing one's own death. Suicide is often carried out as a result of despair, the cause of which is frequently attributed to a mental disorder such as depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, alcoholism, or drug abuse, as well as stress factors such as financial difficulties, troubles with interpersonal relationships, and bullying. Suicide prevention efforts include limiting access to method of suicide such as firearms and poisons, treating mental illness and drug misuse, and improving economic circumstances. Although crisis hotlines are common, there is little evidence for their effectiveness.

KARACHI: “All is fair in love and war” – a popular saying had its practical implication when a teenage schoolboy in Karachi committed suicide after his parents allegedly refused love-marriage.

http://arynews.tv/en/fallen-in-love-karachi-school-boy-shoots-girl-dead-later-kills-himself/

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Quote from: pitham1 on September 11, 2015, 12:16:32 PM

Quote from: operrajunk74 on September 11, 2015, 09:47:26 AM

I think that it is selfish under certain circumstances; they didn't tell anyone about their problems, and didn't offer anyone a chance to help them. That could make the parents or friends blame themselves for not seeing the problem. This could lead to a cluster suicide. I think that it isn't selfish and just thier choice if they have tried everything they could. I don't support suicide at all.

It could be termed escapism / selfishness even if they tried everything.
Santhara, however, is way, way different.

Everyone expresses their problems differently. Some keep it to themselves and others are comfortable sharing. The issue with sharing suicidal thoughts is the way you're going to be treated going forward. People will treat you differently, and you will be advised to be medicated with psychoactive substances that will alter the way you think. I can see why people in that situation would want to skip that process.

But in terms of friends and family - it would be best for friends and family if you find a way to close those relationships off before checking out, if there is enough planning that has gone into it and it's not just an impulsive decision.

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Quote from: operrajunk74 on September 11, 2015, 09:47:26 AM

I think that it is selfish under certain circumstances; they didn't tell anyone about their problems, and didn't offer anyone a chance to help them. That could make the parents or friends blame themselves for not seeing the problem. This could lead to a cluster suicide. I think that it isn't selfish and just thier choice if they have tried everything they could. I don't support suicide at all.

It could be termed escapism / selfishness even if they tried everything.
Santhara, however, is way, way different.

operrajunk74

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I think that it is selfish under certain circumstances; they didn't tell anyone about their problems, and didn't offer anyone a chance to help them. That could make the parents or friends blame themselves for not seeing the problem. This could lead to a cluster suicide. I think that it isn't selfish and just thier choice if they have tried everything they could. I don't support suicide at all.

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Quote from: freeyourmind on September 08, 2015, 04:11:51 PM

I wonder what would happen if a homeless man attempted to commit suicide. Normally very few people give a shit about homeless people, and pass by them while their starving looking in the opposite direction. When the dude starves to death, still no one gives a shit. But when someone willingly takes their own life, it's a tragedy.

That is the tragedy of this entire story.
If you starve to death, it is acceptable. If you fast to death, it is a crime.
I believe the government should be able to satisfy the basic needs of its citizens.

Well the government doesn't actually create any value, so the only way to provide basic needs would be to either tax the rest of the citizens or borrow it from future generations. With the way the government currently spends money however, I think it would be pretty easy to do. I've read somewhere that it would cost $30 billion to eliminate world hunger and the US spends $600 billion on their military each year so reallocating 1/30th of that budget would do wonders.

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Quote from: freeyourmind on September 08, 2015, 04:11:51 PM

I wonder what would happen if a homeless man attempted to commit suicide. Normally very few people give a shit about homeless people, and pass by them while their starving looking in the opposite direction. When the dude starves to death, still no one gives a shit. But when someone willingly takes their own life, it's a tragedy.

That is the tragedy of this entire story.
If you starve to death, it is acceptable. If you fast to death, it is a crime.
I believe the government should be able to satisfy the basic needs of its citizens.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 06, 2015, 01:24:09 AM

Quote from: lahm-44 on September 06, 2015, 01:06:06 AM

lol..if a person himself wants to sucide then why the hell government or laws are interfaring in it :p thats so stupid like a person got arrested becase he talk to anyone strainger..I mean its not makes sence its his decisiin he can do whatever he wants

The government and the authorities have the responsibility to help that person by offering the necessary psychiatric counselling or medication. There can be a number of reasons for someone attempting suicide. It can be due to medical issues, bullying or blackmail, harassment, financial troubles, family failure.etc.

I wonder what would happen if a homeless man attempted to commit suicide. Normally very few people give a shit about homeless people, and pass by them while their starving looking in the opposite direction. When the dude starves to death, still no one gives a shit. But when someone willingly takes their own life, it's a tragedy.

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Suicide shouldn't be illegal I think mainly because there's no point. If someone checks out I don't really see what anyone can do about it.

But it's important to consider that a person wanting to commit suicide may be leaving behind certain debts or responsabilities that won't resolve themselves by their death and may affect other people negatively.

Their should minimally be a better framework for providing help to people who are committing suicide for the wrong reasons (i.e. terminal disease, escaping nazi torture chambers, philosophical opposition to being alive, or something like that...)

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 06, 2015, 01:24:09 AM

Quote from: lahm-44 on September 06, 2015, 01:06:06 AM

lol..if a person himself wants to sucide then why the hell government or laws are interfaring in it :p thats so stupid like a person got arrested becase he talk to anyone strainger..I mean its not makes sence its his decisiin he can do whatever he wants

The government and the authorities have the responsibility to help that person by offering the necessary psychiatric counselling or medication. There can be a number of reasons for someone attempting suicide. It can be due to medical issues, bullying or blackmail, harassment, financial troubles, family failure.etc.

Unfortunately, current (Indian) laws make it a crime to attempt suicide, punishable by a jail term of up to one year. The government is working towards removing this, but I guess it will take time.

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Quote from: lahm-44 on September 06, 2015, 01:06:06 AM

lol..if a person himself wants to sucide then why the hell government or laws are interfaring in it :p thats so stupid like a person got arrested becase he talk to anyone strainger..I mean its not makes sence its his decisiin he can do whatever he wants

The government and the authorities have the responsibility to help that person by offering the necessary psychiatric counselling or medication. There can be a number of reasons for someone attempting suicide. It can be due to medical issues, bullying or blackmail, harassment, financial troubles, family failure.etc.

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lol..if a person himself wants to sucide then why the hell government or laws are interfaring in it :p thats so stupid like a person got arrested becase he talk to anyone strainger..I mean its not makes sence its his decisiin he can do whatever he wants

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