Topic: Suicide - page 4. (Read 7156 times)

It can be done in the UK. I have not a clue as to how, but...

Since they connect you to the all caps name, they must have a reason for connecting. Do you have something like a birth certificate over there? This is where it all starts. From then on, all your "agreements" with government are through the "PERSON" created by your birth certificate. In some cases additional PERSONs are conjured up that are subservient to your original one.

As long as you don't know about it, you can't do anything about it except by accident. If you do it by accident, chance are you won't know what has been done.

They have to base the strawman on a real person. Otherwise they could simply go and create as many "people" as they wanted and rule the world. Since the all caps PERSON is based on a human being, the human is the one who has interest in it beyond all others. If the human doesn't pick up and use his interest, it is up to government to use and control the interest.

In the US, the UCC is a shortcut to laws that have been recognized over decades of use, in such a way that the UCC has actually become law. If every UCC book dropped off the face of the planet, we could still operate by going back to the original laws that the UCC is founded on. It would simply be a more laborious process.

Does the UK have a counterpart of the UCC? If it does, you can use it similarly. If it doesn't, simply find the laws in the UCC, and find their counterparts in UK law.

The most important thing to remember and study is common law and Queens Bench. At Queens Bench you go to court as a man and can require to have a man face you. The British government is not a man. They cannot face you. Their attorneys aren't going to speak in common language. They lose.

Consider Karl Lentz - http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/. Karl isn't big on UCC stuff. But he is big on common law and the interest you have in something that is your property over the interest any other man or government has in it.

I am not sure this can be done in the UK let me know if otherwise, thanks.

Aslo I would love for once, not to see any mail dropping through my letter box with name in all CAPS= they own you.

Very good article on the subject

I believe Japan in very tolerant with suicides, It is reported that there are over 30,000 suicides every year in Japan with middle aged Japanese men are more likely to be at risk. This is a very sad reality created by modern Japan and there are a couple of issues that need to be fixed in order to reduce the number of suicidal people

Suicide is murder, even if it is only self-murder. "And you know that no murder has eternal life abiding in himself."

"Greater love has no man than to give up his life for his friends."

So, you see? Suicide with a valiant, honorable purpose may be right. But suicide for selfish, cowardly, and probably even illness reasons is wrong.

This life is short when compared with the way we can think. Eternal life is life with no end - the hereafter. Make your suicide choice wisely. You really don't want to spend eternity in Hell.

In my opinion, under some circumstances, the sucide isn´t the worst choice a person can make. I don´t understand all those negative actions regarding it. I believe everyone should have right to do what he wants with his life as long as he doesn´t hurt the others.
The way of dying as presented in the first post is terryfing. That´s a terrible death to die of dehydration.   

You make great points. But i do think dying of fright is classified as suicide. I still think it's trauma and bad genetics.  People/Animals get scared all the time but almost all survive the situation with the exception of a few. Animals understand that a predator wishes to do them harm that's why they run....I think your statement would stick if the Animal just sat there as the predator ate it. Then i would Classify it as suicide.

The examples are just limited by your imagination. Animals often stand on roads. Why do people always assume that the animals are stupid or naive? If they're in a herd and getting chased by a predator, why assume that it's lack of fitness or bad genes if one of them runs more slowly? Maybe they're less motivated?

We invent these narratives that sick animals isolate themselves from the herd because they're just evolutionary zombies that have been programmed to protect the herd against diseases. But they could also be suffering, and deliberately exposing themselves to predators. While I think evolutionary theories and modern biology have contributed a lot to science, I also think they've been manipulated by Christian dogma.

To calling dying of fright a "chain reaction" is to rely on various beliefs about how things work.

And Nature defies your opinion.
Many species, including humans, have built-in mechanisms for the body to shut down and die in response to extreme pain or fear thereof. I see no evolutionary advantage for any living being to just "give up and die" when that so-called survival instinct could still save it. If anyone has an explanation for how dying of fright could be an evolutionary advantage, I'd like to hear it.

If death occurs prior to any actual blunt trauma or irreversible damage, this suggests some aspects of advanced intelligence, even in small animals with primitive reptilian brains, which flies in the face of idealist beliefs such as "humans are special" or "animals lack our intelligence".

If a small bird gets captured from the wild and it dies of fright, this indicates several things:
-it has the mental capacity to forecast future events, and make an estimate that it's about to get eaten or somehow brutally hurt.
-it has the capacity to extrapolate pain levels that it has never experienced.
-in order to have basic concepts like "getting eaten", the primitive bird brain must therefore have language structures to understand those things.
-it probably has an ego and a subconscious mind that protects it from unmanageable suffering by controlling the physiology of the body. The ego could even participate in deciding how long to fight for survival, and when to bail.

This raises further questions:
Why the heck should a subconscious mind (or just biological programming) inside an intelligent being give a shit about protecting/nurturing some immaterial ego when the entire system is about to crash?
The evidence in nature hints that certain beliefs about reincarnation or rebirth, or some other post-death growth, could be correct. A counter-argument could be that suicide is a completely different thing from survival in the animal kingdom, but I disagree. It's always associated with unmanageable suffering, some forecast that it will continue or get worse, and it's all about protecting the ego. "Taking action" to manage your own death is completely natural, given that we naturally evolved these large brains that decide to do weird things.

Ha ha. That is an interesting point of view.
If only they allowed you to pay a "fine" and commit suicide, people would really start thinking before attempting such a step.

File a UCC1 Form on your strawman, and take back your property from government.

That is so true, government takes out a policy on the day of your birth registration.

If you know of any one who is feeling suicidal, help them by any means to choose life instead.

Well, actually they can. But only this one last time. With the living, they do it over, and over, and over, ...

This is FACT!  They don't wan't you to die because they can't steal any money from a dead person.

But if you really want to be lawful about it, all you have to do is get away with it.

 

HAHAHA!!! That's classic!

Suicide, everyone is a human being that can run his life in a way he or she wants. If you don't want to live anymore that do it that is your choice. In the Christianity, a suicide is a very bad thing, a priest won't come if you have committed suicide so you will burn in hell

Someone might to suicide mostly cause by an environment factor like even his/her family won't help his problem , he/she is atheist,etc

Also suicice cause by religion like terorist, they are ready to explode their self to accomplish their goal

So you think that because it's against the law, someone considering suicide will come to the conclusion that it's illegal and that will be the reason to not commit suicide?  Similar to the heroin addict that is going to go cold turkey because he found out using heroin is against the law...

If what you're saying actually works, then the countries that were the "toughest on crime" would have the lowest crime rates, and you can see that that is simply not the case.  If you don't address the root cause of why it's happening, then the problem isn't going to be solved, and you can't just stick a law in there to get the job done.


lol 

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

You are trolling me and I thought you would be above that .
You asked me to clarify and I did. Then you take a statement and twist it to get off on.
Anyone can see I stated " I have no idea what would appease all groups"! You took this to mean all groups need to be appeased. Its stating it would be near impossible to do. Sad I had to exlain that.

Will bow out of this discussion.