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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1581. (Read 3050080 times)

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September 26, 2013, 06:32:33 PM

It is chips before they go into a package which goes into some kind of sealed packing which goes into a courier's luggage which goes to Sweden, or something like that. So quite possibly the last chance to get a photo of them before the sealed packing material is unsealed at the factory to be fed into the assembly machines - oh and a few snipped off to test and prototype with while the assembly machines churn away maybe.

-MarkM-


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit_packaging nothing to do with plastic bags or couriers. Daft term Smiley
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September 26, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
I don't want a rushed rig, something that arrives a day late and doesn't last due to some easily avoided fault or lack of testing.
This is definitely a big worry, especially for those taking delivery. You could lose days, a week or more of mining sending it back to Sweden for repairs.

I hope, even if they rush the first batch out the door, they go back to a proper and full testing/burn-in procedure for the later rigs.
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September 26, 2013, 06:26:44 PM
ok, might be as you stated out. so Day1 is then Friday and Day2 Monday, right?

Why do people wait until Sunday to buy their Sunday newspaper instead of picking it up when the printer closes at 5:30 or so friday evening?

Or don't you have Sunday papers where you come from?

Why wait for morning to get your morning paper, instead of picking it up from the printer at 5:30 the evening before when the printer closes?

Sheesh! Capital machinery is like bitcoin mining rigs, you pay 24/7 interest on the capital it took to get the damn things, you think everyone is going to run it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week?

Day 1 is presumably the first day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks and day two the second day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks.

Maybe day 1 starts at midnight tonight... But midnight by where's timezone? Maybe it is already midnight somewhere!

-MarkM-


Newspapers aren't assembled by hand. Rolls of paper go into the press and bundles of papers roll out into the loading bay. I served my apprenticeship in the newspaper press business. They are picked up and delivered late Saturday night in some cases too which is why they are on news progs on telly late Saturday night.. The machinery producing the boards will run 24/7 from the start of production until it's all done with no day1 or day 2 and no stopping except for breakdown and maintenance if needed ...that's just a line in the sand for us that doesn't matter at all at their end as long as the right numbers can be produced to ship what they promised on day1 and day2. If you got a day2 order on day1 which is likely for someone ..you'd care less wouldn't you?

The machines are pouring out parts to assemblers, not into trucks...we've been through all that already. I thought it was all going to be automated too until it was proved otherwise. They will need putting together and the pool details entering and testing and packing securely , and for some the hosting setup sorting. Not an instant process. Not something they have done before either in this volume is it?

I don't want a rushed rig, something that arrives a day late and doesn't last due to some easily avoided fault or lack of testing. Losing a day or two of early mining pales to nothing compared to what you'd lose if it broke...as BFL customers found out in some cases.

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September 26, 2013, 06:23:27 PM

It is chips before they go into a package which goes into some kind of sealed packing which goes into a courier's luggage which goes to Sweden, or something like that. So quite possibly the last chance to get a photo of them before the sealed packing material is unsealed at the factory to be fed into the assembly machines - oh and a few snipped off to test and prototype with while the assembly machines churn away maybe.

-MarkM-
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September 26, 2013, 06:20:45 PM
Thanks for that, I don't read their forums usually. So if that was on the 19th. that's not too bad, the packaging must be well under way.

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September 26, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
I think it's only fair that I disclose this to current investors.
The colored Easter Egg Batch Producers are selling out fast. I'm considering taking pre-orders for our next state of the art Batch Colored Easter Egg Producer.
Those who stood by us will get a special Colored Egg Producer that is a Miniature version of our Larger Batch Producer.
We'll soon update the site with pics of our new model, actually working, or getting ready to work. But we have our in house project Currently producing Colored Easter Eggs as we speak, so there are no gimmicks here. All of us have experience and background in this field. You can count on us.
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September 26, 2013, 06:14:38 PM


KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.

He's talking about cloudhashing and byteminr

Cloudhashing do most likely have the biggest order.. nothing confirmed.
Byteminr is the brother of Sam wasnt it?
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September 26, 2013, 06:11:43 PM


KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.

He's talking about cloudhashing and byteminr
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September 26, 2013, 06:08:49 PM


KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.
Read back the last couple of pages. That's why there is so much noise, because people post without having read anything that's gone before.
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September 26, 2013, 06:07:15 PM


KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.
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September 26, 2013, 06:06:23 PM
You people who only run your rigs 8 hours a day and only on weekdays might want to think about running more shifts, no wonder you don't think you'll make ROI if you have an only eight hours a day, only on weekdays mentality... Tongue Cheesy

-MarkM-
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September 26, 2013, 06:04:29 PM
Posting a load of photos of people assembling racks, then nothing shown for production...not a pixel. Does that make an ounce of sense at this stage if they are in production? So easy to do. Why wouldn't they?

I'm speculating but that makes me think they aren't assembled in Sweden.
EVERYONE is speculating, that's what's making this thread so intolerable.

KNC's two major investor seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday. Sam has said things are going well. Sam has invited prospective employee Bitcoinorama to come to Sweden this weekend for "something". That's the most solid info anyone has. So let's leave it at that.
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September 26, 2013, 06:02:11 PM
Posting a load of photos of people assembling racks, then nothing shown for production...not a pixel. Does that make an ounce of sense at this stage if they are in production? So easy to do. Why wouldn't they?

Exactly.  If they had chips, you would have a picture posted within minutes of getting them.  In fact, as soon as their courier has them in possession, they will take a picture.  They are not even done being packaged therefore no assembly/production is taking place. I mean maybe boards but not miners.
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September 26, 2013, 05:58:49 PM
Posting a load of photos of people assembling racks, then nothing shown for production...not a pixel. Does that make an ounce of sense at this stage if they are in production? So easy to do. Why wouldn't they?

I'm speculating but that makes me think they aren't assembled in Sweden.


Edit: the Avenger Below is Right I'll shut my mouth about speculations from now on.
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September 26, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
wow, 3 ignored users one after another. maybe I should sneak a peek  Roll Eyes

You are not missing anything.
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September 26, 2013, 05:57:00 PM
wow, 3 ignored users one after another. maybe I should sneak a peek  Roll Eyes

You are not missing anything.

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this whole thread sucks...thanks for making it that way guys.
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September 26, 2013, 05:56:57 PM
Posting a load of photos of people assembling racks, then nothing shown for production...not a pixel. Does that make an ounce of sense at this stage if they are in production? So easy to do. Why wouldn't they?
legendary
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September 26, 2013, 05:56:10 PM
ok, might be as you stated out. so Day1 is then Friday and Day2 Monday, right?

Why do people wait until Sunday to buy their Sunday newspaper instead of picking it up when the printer closes at 5:30 or so friday evening?

Or don't you have Sunday papers where you come from?

Why wait for morning to get your morning paper, instead of picking it up from the printer at 5:30 the evening before when the printer closes?

Sheesh! Capital machinery is like bitcoin mining rigs, you pay 24/7 interest on the capital it took to get the damn things, you think everyone is going to run it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week?

Day 1 is presumably the first day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks and day two the second day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks.

Maybe day 1 starts at midnight tonight... But midnight by where's timezone? Maybe it is already midnight somewhere!

-MarkM-
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September 26, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
wow, 3 ignored users one after another. maybe I should sneak a peek  Roll Eyes

You are not missing anything.

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