Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1621.

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Quote from: tarmi on September 23, 2013, 08:24:26 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 22, 2013, 03:15:42 AM

Cool, but can you please upload a video for the rest of us wit respect to it's performance? This is meant to be a community here and we'd all love to see some real user evidence.

It takes moments to do, mining isn't really something that keeps you too busy to not share evidence in a community burnt so many times before.

Again I've never had a bad word to say about Bitfury, all the evidence seems to suggest he has been exemplary, there is just a lot of praise and very little I dependant visual proof.

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:15:39 AM

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!! Tongue

wow, demanding pics and videos of working Bitfury units for the sake of the "community that burnt so many times before" and praising KnC for posting some vague pictures of their data center 5 days before deadline...

that is a winner!

Man you are annyoing! they posted those pictures on their own forum, for their community and on topic for people who paid good (and a lot of) money for a professional datacenter.
Home> KnCMiner customer support forum> KnCMiner Hosting> KnCMiner Pool
So these people have every right to praise those pics any way they want!
As for the comparison to the working Bitfury units - There was much talk about people having them and hashing and power consumption but no pictures. Do you see any-fucking-one here pretending to have a Unit or knowing the exact power specs? No? One wonders why the fuck you are here when all you do is point out that your "calculations" tell you that everyone here except day one is a "sucker", bitcoinorama (who spent a lot of time and money to verify the veracity of the company for the community) is a "winner" and complain about KNC posting pictures of their datacenter being made ready for the miners 5 days before the "deadline".

I took the freedom to search for a definition for you:
deadline: the time by which something must be finished or submitted; the latest time for finishing something

So you said it yourself, they still have 5 days. It's fucking Monday 4PM in Sweden. Give them some time and just stfu if you have nothing productive or non-insulting to say.

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Quote from: DeaDTerra on September 23, 2013, 06:24:27 AM

I plan to go to the bitcoin conference in Amsterdam between the 25-29th what is the chance that KNCMINER will ship while I am gone? Tongue

//DeaDTerra

Wonder if KnC will be represented at the Bitcoin conference in Atlanta Oct. 5th.

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Quote from: tarmi on September 23, 2013, 08:40:10 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:33:59 AM

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Josh_BFL/Yifu are relaxed and happy in photos too. They are not hiding at all.

I dont blame them> if I were Yifu, I would be very relaxed and happy too.

Sorry, where is Yifu exactly? He's been AWOL since July, his recent flyby's to announce he is not dead, do not count and don't install confidence, nor give any remote explanation as to WTF Bitsyncom have been playing at. Certainly giving refunds for monies used to bankroll his ventures don't cut it either.

Quote from: tarmi on September 23, 2013, 08:40:10 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:33:59 AM

If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned.

You mean if they dont ship by next monday? sorry, but hashing video is not good enough.

Tarmi, are you a KnC customer? I want my units, but if they are on the significant side of generosity with respect 400gh/s and a week late, I may just forgive, seeing as they are at the bequest of the packaging co, and couriers, esp. as the 30th falls directly next to a weekend.

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Quote from: tolip_wen on September 22, 2013, 10:52:26 PM

Quote from: soy on September 22, 2013, 02:33:04 PM

Will we need a stratum-mining-proxy to avoid getwork penalties on Slush with KnC machines? Would restarting the mining proxy hourly give a similar return improvement with KnC machines? I don't think this would be hijacking the thread but for those who think it might, sorry.

cgminer (the software that KnC has said they are using) is fluent in Stratum.

no proxy needed

Quote from: ImI on September 22, 2013, 07:58:18 PM

Will a PSU Tester like this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-20-24-Pin-PSU-ATX-SATA-HD-Power-Supply-Tester-/320615128503

do the trick and power on the miner?

That should work.
All they do is measure the voltages.

The testers that are _NOT_ apropriate for long term use are testers that test under load.
They make your power supply work hard to see if there are under load problems

They will get as hot as anything else that is consuming 500-1500 watts.

They typically cost LOTS more than the voltage measuring testers that people have posted.

EDIT: there are inexpensive 'load' testers that are to be AVOIDED for this application.
an example is here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899200003&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-PC+tools%2f+Testers-_-N82E16899200003&gclid=CP-kk8_d4LkCFeIRMwod4RcAOA

And here are a couple good power supply load tester pron links (for those interested in such things)
http://www.corsair.com/us/blog/load-testing-the-ax1200i-digital-atx-psu/
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article148-page1.html

YMMV

Soon!

Late last night in the wee hours of the morning I realized KnC is using cgminer which has stratum+tcp://

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:33:59 AM

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Josh_BFL/Yifu are relaxed and happy in photos too. They are not hiding at all.

I dont blame them> if I were Yifu, I would be very relaxed and happy too.

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:33:59 AM

If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned.

You mean if they dont ship by next monday? sorry, but hashing video is not good enough.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:33:59 AM

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Are you going to begrudge them enjoying themselves? You can see Marcus looks focused on the job at hand and that is blatantly a lot of hard work performed right there. If it wasn't a completed hosting facility i'd be concerned.

They say they are on time. They promised to give daily updates *if* they are late. I have no beef with them this side of September. If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned. So in the mean time, i'm all smiles and glad they enjoy their work. For those wanting Sam at his desk at nights, and weekends? Why?! He's waiting for the same things you are. Why drive yourself mad?

That was what I noticed too. These don't look like people who are behind schedule and bracing for lots of angry customers and refunds.

The tone of those pictures probably says more about their ability to deliver than pictures of chips would.

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Quote from: tarmi on September 23, 2013, 08:24:26 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 22, 2013, 03:15:42 AM

Cool, but can you please upload a video for the rest of us wit respect to it's performance? This is meant to be a community here and we'd all love to see some real user evidence.

It takes moments to do, mining isn't really something that keeps you too busy to not share evidence in a community burnt so many times before.

Again I've never had a bad word to say about Bitfury, all the evidence seems to suggest he has been exemplary, there is just a lot of praise and very little I dependant visual proof.

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:15:39 AM

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!! Tongue

wow, demanding pics and videos of working Bitfury units for the sake of the "community that burnt so many times before" and praising KnC for posting some vague pictures of their data center 5 days before october is a winner!

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Are you going to begrudge them enjoying themselves? You can see Marcus looks focused on the job at hand and that is blatantly a lot of hard work performed right there. If it wasn't a completed hosting facility i'd be concerned.

They say they are on time. They promised to give daily updates *if* they are late. I have no beef with them this side of September. If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned. So in the mean time, i'm all smiles and glad they enjoy their work. For those wanting Sam at his desk at nights, and weekends? Why?! He's waiting for the same things you are. Why drive yourself mad?

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 22, 2013, 03:15:42 AM

Cool, but can you please upload a video for the rest of us wit respect to it's performance? This is meant to be a community here and we'd all love to see some real user evidence.

It takes moments to do, mining isn't really something that keeps you too busy to not share evidence in a community burnt so many times before.

Again I've never had a bad word to say about Bitfury, all the evidence seems to suggest he has been exemplary, there is just a lot of praise and very little I dependant visual proof.

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 08:15:39 AM

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!! Tongue

wow, demanding pics and videos of working Bitfury units for the sake of the "community that burnt so many times before" and praising KnC for posting some vague pictures of their data center 5 days before deadline...

that is a winner!

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Quote from: Meizirkki on September 23, 2013, 08:13:58 AM

Quote from: -Redacted- on September 23, 2013, 08:01:43 AM

On the contrary - this looks more like a couple professionals building a data center. People scream for pictures. People get pictures. People scream "how unprofessional".

pics where they actually do something are neutral to positive, but a bleeding hand? Really? Wink

Fwiw, I'd be totally satisfied with zero pics published to date.

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!! Tongue

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Quote from: -Redacted- on September 23, 2013, 08:01:43 AM

On the contrary - this looks more like a couple professionals building a data center. People scream for pictures. People get pictures. People scream "how unprofessional". And you wonder why they don't release chip pictures? All the armchair EEs would be trolling in a second. Too big. Too small. Too many pins. Should have done it differently.

Jesus, save us all from idiots, please...

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Quote from: -Redacted- on September 23, 2013, 08:01:43 AM

On the contrary - this looks more like a couple professionals building a data center. People scream for pictures. People get pictures. People scream "how unprofessional".

pics where they actually do something are neutral to positive, but a bleeding hand? Really? Wink

Fwiw, I'd be totally satisfied with zero pics published to date.

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Quote from: Meizirkki on September 23, 2013, 07:57:58 AM

Are those pics from KnC? Why would they break their well established image of professionalism with this "two amateurs building a datacenter" picture collection?

Sam and Andreas are IT architects, they've created datacentres for huge financial institutions for over a decade each. This is their specialty. I'd give them a little more credit than 'two amateurs'. The CS reps acting as builders are amateurs, but they look like they got their sh*t together and nailed it, or err...at least 'drilled it', and that out of focus corner in the background looks pretty damn spiteful to be fair.

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Quote from: joae1975 on September 22, 2013, 08:41:12 AM

I know we've been over this before. There's basically 3 groups of people, imho. ~~Day 1 production, day 2, and everyone else.~~

ASIC manufacturers - the ones that will make a ton of money

day 1 production - the ones that will see ROI

day 2 and everyone else - suckers

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LOL... Castaway... Interesting movie...

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Quote from: CYPER on September 23, 2013, 08:01:49 AM

Quote from: Meizirkki on September 23, 2013, 07:57:58 AM

Are those pics from KnC? Why would they break their well established image of professionalism with this "two amateurs building a datacenter" picture collection?

No, its my hand. I cut it on purpose, so I can post this picture.

Wilson!

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Quote from: Meizirkki on September 23, 2013, 07:57:58 AM

Are those pics from KnC? Why would they break their well established image of professionalism with this "two amateurs building a datacenter" picture collection?

No, its my hand. I cut it on purpose, so I can post this picture.

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On the contrary - this looks more like a couple professionals building a data center. People scream for pictures. People get pictures. People scream "how unprofessional". And you wonder why they don't release chip pictures? All the armchair EEs would be trolling in a second. Too big. Too small. Too many pins. Should have done it differently.

Jesus, save us all from idiots, please...

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Are those pics from KnC? Why would they break their well established image of professionalism with this "two amateurs building a datacenter" picture collection?

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Can you say your ASIC vendor has shed blood to get you your miner as quick as possible Grin

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At least its a nice update for the guys who booked the hosting package Cool

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