I'm guessing all orders up to the end of July are due for September delivery?
I have an 26XX order paid for in June and have been assured multiple times that I won't ship until October. I really wish KnC would stop being so catty about this. Shipping in mid to late October will likely kill my investment in their company. We're five days from September and we're still getting the elusive shipping begins sometime "in Spetember" message. They owe those who have invested soooo much in them some transparency at this point -- it's starting to feel disrespectful.
The transparency has always been there, you just refuse to see it because of greed and want.
No, not greed ..our decision to order a rig was based on estimates of many and various things, one of which was how trustworthy and competent KnC were...almost everything else has turned out to be bad for our situation even if KnC deliver as they said, difficulty particularly. When money and/or business is concerned the bottom line is never to stick to an investment that you needn't and lose money. These machines do one thing, make money. If they lose money then regardless of how KnC perform we aren't greedy to see a loss and walk away. It's common sense.
Some may not, some people may look upon the whole thing differently and stick with it.
KnC said from the get go that they weren't going for a massive customer base, more for quality and ROI for a smaller group that they could support. That part of their promise is a massive fail / lie even now...you don't need a referal system to keep something the way they implied they wanted, they are going balls out for sales until and after such sales will benefit any customers, and as has been already said here...people who find their rig cost them thousands more than the guy who came late to the party by a week...that's going to hurt. Instant devaluation of something you bought within a week..that's nasty. Unless you can think of another brand new in the box item that isn't worth the price you paid a week later because the manufacturer sells them for so much less than you paid?
I think they have a solid company and are maybe going to prove themselves the best supplier...but still they have no chance in this market and nor do we. Greed IS involved...the whole ASIC revolution was greed, and it's the goose that sat on the golden egg and destroyed it for most miners.
“Margins upon margins upon margins is what we do,” said Sam Cole, co-founder of KnCMiner, explaining his design philosophy. “There is wriggle room for lots of things.”
The board has been overspecced by 30-40% for extra heat and power consumption, according to Cole. This could enable the chip to be overclocked, he adds.
The company is still on track to receive its chips in September. “It won’t be at the beginning of September, I’ll tell you that,” Cole said. “Everything is still on track for me to have Jupiters in customers’ hands in September.” He expects to fill most of his customers’ orders in early October, and says that he should have cleared the current queue of orders by mid October.
Timmers, when I met the, KnC were well aware competition would be hot on their heels and they would have to be ready for that. They had the foresight to hit 28nm, play the safely, safely approach to promises to a burnt audience and predict that 400gh/s+ would be required for Jupiter.
You will bet more than 400gh/s out of Jupiter, they will be on time.
What they didn't predict was that neither BFL or Avalon would be. Actually scrap that they thought BFL would deliver more than they have by September, but no one foresaw Bitsyncom royally screwing over the entire community.
This is not a company lying about specs or proposed delivery time to gamble your funds. They have offered you a full refund the entire way. No one else does that. They have a design firm that owns the largest opensource IC community on the net, and over ten years of FPGA and ASIC design. No one else has that.
I'm not fussed until the end of Sept, then I'll start chewing my nails, but not because I won't see my cash again, either way this goes, I'm cool, no other company gives you the chance to relax this much, so enjoy the ride.
