Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1795. (Read 3049501 times)

Mate, I'm in no position to confirm anything, other than what Greenbtc has mentioned above is accurate as far as I know. They said the first two days would be Sept, that they can ramp up and scale production as needed.

From their point of view the sooner they get rid of pre-orders the sooner they get to magically say 'units in stock', which will breath a sigh of relief from everyone and an end to the pre-order BS. I totally understand the need for pre-orders, but there's been way too much abuse from scammers and gamblers purposely avoiding accountability.

I do agree. I was waiting for a 2112's post on the PCM since they published news-30

2112, what can you tell us about KNC's latest post/picture of the PCB....your opinion is highly regarded, thanks.

Can you explain why would rise time (or any other dynamic load parameter) matter for a miner power supply?

This isn't a CPU or anything similar that will have to cope with the changes of the load.

The bitminer works 100% load all the time. I wanted to write "full throttle", but it is more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power throttle setting.

Bitcoinorama can you confirm that?

To put it into perspective, I'm getting ~300us (0.3ms) rise times.   The comments weren't sarcastic.  Their choice was poor, its not a supply you'd want to chose for such an application due to efficiency.  If you look at similar supplies on motherboards and GPUs 85% is typically the lowest you'll see.  Usually numbers are in the low 90's.   If you're relying on caps to correct this you're really going to have to watch over current in the h-bridges as this causes over corrections by the switching IC.  This is due to two part, the temporary additional load needs to be provided and the switch attempts to stabilize this.  All inductors have different inductance at different power loads typically presented as a curve of impedance @ amps @ a specific voltage.  Towards the right hand side of each of these curves is a point where the inductance drastically decreases.  This leads to the switching IC performing a series of over corrections.

I mentioned my design to indicate level of effort put into a more appropriate design and associated performance metrics.  Its intended for a 32 chip Bitfury board to go in a 12 board chassis.  The goal is a 4U @1TH/s with < 1kw wall consumption.  I've only got a handful of chips currently and still waiting on lab time to properly characterize them before finalizing design and doing a prototype run.  Not planning on selling it, might not even fully build it after testing the design, just something to do in spare time.

MANY pages ago, he said he bought one unit I believe...

Here is what has been stated in previous time lines, and this is what they say they are still on track with:

Day 1 & Day 2 orders are shipping in September.

Everything else is shipping in October.

what is the expected ship date for the July orders? To the best of your knowledge. Is it September or October.
Thanks for your time,
Brian

No worries. I said before I was looking to purchase one or two units, I wasn't putting all my eggs in one basket. Sensible approach. I will consider more once the device is proven and we know how the network is behaving.

By now I expected all Avalons and bulk chips to be hashing. I'm still shocked and to be fair annoyed for those involved that they aren't. I also expected Bitfury to be onboard and in the wild by mid-August.

I never planned for BFL, neither am I holding my breath there. I'm also not expecting another 28nm entrant till at least December, but I maybe wrong.

I don't feel comfortable 'throwing money' at something with so many unknowns. I feel safe if KnC deliver on time we will be in profit before any real completion surfaces, but then I won't be shocked by any surprises after the past 6 months.

Ultrix, I'm sorry, but I just don't see your point here. What exactly are you trying to say (can it be summed up in a couple sentences?) Because it looks to me as if your not happy with the choice.
Do you have a better one?
Share it, and maybe on gen 2...
otherwise....?   dont get it
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But at the end there You DO like the choice.....ok   I totally missed that, sry
I totally thought you implied a poor choice, and got lost in the data before seeing the last comments
The sarcastic nature makes it hard to follow...
btw...
"1.5ms typical rise in output current from 10% to 90%."
seems spectacular to me...   You have a better example with a comparable module?

I think he's slowly coming round to the fact the company exists and are making a real effort to provide a worthwhile product for all concerned.

Perhaps he means well, but he certainly entered the thread on the wrong foot.

In any case he seems amicable enough once he's on the right path, and anyone who is sincere in their apology is worthy of forgiveness as long as no damage has been done.

Bygones be bygones, life's too short, etc.

I hope I didn't rile you up bitcoinorama....I have actually read every single page in this thread and then some.....and I just don't ever recall you stating that you had purchased a unit, or rather ordered it because purchase would imply delivered/received.

Anyhow, I have ORDERED a Saturn from KNC....although it is not day 1 or day 2, it was ordered very shortly after, so maybe "day 3" for me,
HOW ABOUT YOU?

btw. I've rec'd apologies from Croppo, and he's earned my respect back. Trust profile restored & unignored.

If you'd check the thread from the beginning the entire purpose of me going there was to check they existed for my own purchase. Additionally I wanted to check out an engineering firm in a discipline I'm heavily interested in. At no point ever have I said I wanted a PR type job, although that's generally what people try to position me as. Largely as London has more advertising than engineering roles, and i'm well spoken. The rest is pure speculation from a forum. Though, I studied an engineering discipline from a highly regarded UK Engineering University, it would be interesting to actually use the degrees I entertained the debt for.

That went by quietly (with less comment than the ignore being yellow on members posts), them saying they're going to sell modules for us to upgrade ourselves?
That's exactly what I assumed they meant to happen when I saw the original design but it was never officially mentioned.
That's great news, especially if prices drop and you have room for some ..or even if a gen 2 module can be used if and when they exist.

Has not been answered officially.  There has been no reported delay but no more info on shipping timelines.

Doh you got me.  I knew Lineage power was owned by GE, but I found a datasheet for the same part without any Lineage branding.  Not sure why GE has datasheets for the same thing on multiple sites but they made me look stupid.

Serious question.  It would seem by the description ("0.45Vdc to 2.0Vdc") that they went with the MDT040A0X instead of the MVT04A0X.  Any ideas why?  It doesn't really matter I am just curious.

Sorry if this has been answered a hundred times, this thread is a wall of text.  Are our pre-orders from early June expected to arrive in September or October?

Perhaps but you have to attribute the value of the currency to something familiar until such point it is recognised by it's own merit. Currently you pay for your electricity in some forum of fiat, and the bits of the coin (satoshis) you profit with a day will at somepoint be dictated by the electricity cost to accumulate them and of course the overall price you paid to get there via the mining device of choice.