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legendary
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ex uno plures
October 18, 2014, 03:43:27 PM
Well latest post from KNC on their main page

still protecting their butts

link

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-112


like the "300mh on straight forward litecoin scrypt mining" quote ...notice how they did not mention using a pool with this

the entire thing is to cover their butt

what a farce



LOL. Liars liars pants on fire ! KNC is trying hard to spin the Titan debacle into a success. It isn't. It is a humiliating fall from grace for KNC whose failure is compounded by the lame attempts to portray it otherwise.

Hey, its all the pools fault, didn't you know ?

F**K KNC, the Know Nothing Company. Refunds are the only honorable way out for KNC.



legendary
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October 18, 2014, 03:09:27 PM
would this be what I want (have no frigging clue on SD card stuff)

I think 8 GB would be plenty.

I can recommend this one http://www.provantage.com/sandisk-sdsdqxp-008g-a46~7SNDK35X.htm



Maximum Read Speed: 95 MBps


hell I may just use a 32gb anyway....it is not like the Titan is gonna last past 90 days anyway...the way it seems to be built I can then use this card on something else

unless there is some reason NOT to go larger ..ie KNC being stupid and only handling 8gb or some such?

by the way what size SD card are they even sending with the KNC units?.....I probably should just match it as close as possible again....unless....folks are saying 8gb is the way to go

(always best to follow in the footsteps of those before in this knc titan wtf is going on mine field!) Smiley


anyway clue me in ...I'm just gonna get the dang thing and flash it just in case i get the solid white light everyone keeps talking about on here

(frigging knc amateur hour don't ya know...not sure if I would buy a clock radio from these guys....would burn your house down)

I'm using the 32GB version of the Sandisk Extreme Pro just fine. It was the only quality option available locally when the included 4GB Kingston card died, everything else was class 4.

Make sure you flash v1.02 .bz2 file, and nothing else. You'll have to upgrade to v1.04 using the web interface.
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Clueless!
October 18, 2014, 02:28:09 PM
would this be what I want (have no frigging clue on SD card stuff)

I think 8 GB would be plenty.

I can recommend this one http://www.provantage.com/sandisk-sdsdqxp-008g-a46~7SNDK35X.htm



Maximum Read Speed: 95 MBps


hell I may just use a 32gb anyway....it is not like the Titan is gonna last past 90 days anyway...the way it seems to be built I can then use this card on something else

unless there is some reason NOT to go larger ..ie KNC being stupid and only handling 8gb or some such?

by the way what size SD card are they even sending with the KNC units?.....I probably should just match it as close as possible again....unless....folks are saying 8gb is the way to go

(always best to follow in the footsteps of those before in this knc titan wtf is going on mine field!) Smiley


anyway clue me in ...I'm just gonna get the dang thing and flash it just in case i get the solid white light everyone keeps talking about on here

(frigging knc amateur hour don't ya know...not sure if I would buy a clock radio from these guys....would burn your house down)
legendary
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October 18, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
would this be what I want (have no frigging clue on SD card stuff)

I think 8 GB would be plenty.

I can recommend this one http://www.provantage.com/sandisk-sdsdqxp-008g-a46~7SNDK35X.htm



Maximum Read Speed: 95 MBps
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October 18, 2014, 09:31:47 AM
replace the sd card and start over. there are many occasions with corrupted sd cards lately..

There seems to be a great deal of misunderstanding as to what the B2B aspect of a Titan purchase actually means. Just because the B2C consumer laws might not be applicable, in that you can't just cancel your order because you changed your mind about it, it doesn't mean that KnC are allowed to ship a faulty product and roundly declare 'no refunds'.

The whole 'no refunds' aspect is for when a company has held up its end of the transaction but the consumer wants to cancel anyway. Under B2C they would still be able to cancel, whereas for B2B they would not.

But if a company is shipping shoddy, badly performing hardware, due to design or component failure, they can't just keep repeating 'no refunds'. Otherwise we could all set up shop as producers of gadget X which will [insert claim here] to a particular performance standard of [insert performance speed here] and then just buy in some cheap crap which barely functions to ship out to our gullible customers while crowing about how they don't get to complain because, well, "B2B, No Refunds, Bitches!!!!!11".

That's not what 'no refunds' regarding a B2B transaction means.

KnC fail to meet the standards required in this transaction. It is not their place to hide behind 'no refunds' as people are not cancelling on a whim, they are doing so because the product is not performing how they originally claimed it would when they took the orders and the money.
QFMFT.

Business or no business. KNC can't promise to sell you an orange then ship you a banana. Or in this case a lemon. But as they are bunch of greedy arseholes it will probably take legal action to remedy this.


You're completely right! They offered a Titan in a Jupiter case and not 4 single cubes. So I guess they are in big trouble because all batch 1 customers got bananas instead of oranges Smiley

BTW Does anybody know why my Titan doesn't start anymore after a failed reboot?

THX!
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October 18, 2014, 09:05:57 AM
replace the sd card and start over. there are many occasions with corrupted sd cards lately..

There seems to be a great deal of misunderstanding as to what the B2B aspect of a Titan purchase actually means. Just because the B2C consumer laws might not be applicable, in that you can't just cancel your order because you changed your mind about it, it doesn't mean that KnC are allowed to ship a faulty product and roundly declare 'no refunds'.

The whole 'no refunds' aspect is for when a company has held up its end of the transaction but the consumer wants to cancel anyway. Under B2C they would still be able to cancel, whereas for B2B they would not.

But if a company is shipping shoddy, badly performing hardware, due to design or component failure, they can't just keep repeating 'no refunds'. Otherwise we could all set up shop as producers of gadget X which will [insert claim here] to a particular performance standard of [insert performance speed here] and then just buy in some cheap crap which barely functions to ship out to our gullible customers while crowing about how they don't get to complain because, well, "B2B, No Refunds, Bitches!!!!!11".

That's not what 'no refunds' regarding a B2B transaction means.

KnC fail to meet the standards required in this transaction. It is not their place to hide behind 'no refunds' as people are not cancelling on a whim, they are doing so because the product is not performing how they originally claimed it would when they took the orders and the money.
QFMFT.

Business or no business. KNC can't promise to sell you an orange then ship you a banana. Or in this case a lemon. But as they are bunch of greedy arseholes it will probably take legal action to remedy this.


You're completely right! They offered a Titan in a Jupiter case and not 4 single cubes. So I guess they are in big trouble because all batch 1 customers got bananas instead of oranges Smiley

BTW Does anybody know why my Titan doesn't start anymore after a failed reboot?
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buy silver!
October 18, 2014, 08:15:24 AM
KNC engineers dragged away from their 16mm chip development for their data farm to work on Titan.....yes they are confused/upset/and wondering why they
are bothering ..90 day warranty and no refunds so from their point of view why bother? The equip will likely not last 90 days anyway!






yes, YES!  This picture fkn nails it!!!!
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October 18, 2014, 07:28:43 AM

I highly recommend ditching the class 4 micro SD and purchasing a class 10 4GB to get more stability.


Does a 8GB micro SD work as well ?  (That's the smallest I can get at my local store).

And is it just a matter of stopping the Titan, exchanging the SD card, and restarting it again? Or is there more to it?

Wasted space doesn't harm.
What is important is the class of the SD card (read/write speed).
Look for Class 10.

Switching to another SDcard is the same procedure like your SDcard corrupted.

Titan SD flash guide.

1. Turn off the miner and remove the Micro SD card from the Raspberry Pi.
2. Download the V1.02 Titan .img file: https://github.com/KnCMiner/titan/releases

3.
Follow this link if you are using Windows for instructions on how to write the image to the SD Card http://www.raspberrypi.org/documenta...ges/windows.md

Follow this link if you are using MAC for instructions on how to write the image to the SD card: http://www.raspberrypi.org/documenta...-images/mac.md

Follow this link if you are using Linux for instructions on how to write the image to the SD card: http://www.raspberrypi.org/documenta...mages/linux.md

4. Insert the newly imaged SD card back into your Raspberry Pi and turn on the miner.

Prepare your new sdcard, shut down your miner, replace sdcard and restart.


The links don't work anymore.

I'll simply try dd for Linux. I hope the Titan #1 starts after replacing the SD card again.

Code:
sudo dd if=/home/xxx/Downloads/titan-1.02.img of=/dev/sdb


What's your experience so far? Stay at firmware 1.02 or upgrade to 1.04?

Damn! I've rebooted Titan #2 and now I have 2 not starting Titans with just a bright display. Did anyone else experience something like that?
sr. member
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let's have some fun
October 18, 2014, 03:26:06 AM
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Clueless!
October 18, 2014, 12:46:05 AM
KNC engineers dragged away from their 16mm chip development for their data farm to work on Titan.....yes they are confused/upset/and wondering why they
are bothering ..90 day warranty and no refunds so from their point of view why bother? The equip will likely not last 90 days anyway!



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October 17, 2014, 11:13:13 PM
Just cash out from Hashlet, finally first time + ROI, and they promise that they will enhance price twice by next month.

Because I'm expecting my Titan, so I choose to cash out, may be goo may be not, but I'm happy to do this~ Cheers~ Hope KnCminer could do same thing to us, Love you all~
sr. member
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October 17, 2014, 10:43:46 PM

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Well I thought I was ok with 2 PSU with stock AWG16 pci-e cables.

Above pic was from Strider 1200 Gold with stock AWG16 cables. It was running 2 of my 4 KNC Titan cubes.

Did this one plug run 2 cubes?  AWG16 are rated to handle 16A if you have top shelf 90C rated wires.  4 cable pairs at 12V is a pretty simple power calculation:  4 x 12V x 16A = 768W

Each cube takes 350W.  2 of these should be lower than the 768W max of those power lines, but you probably didn't take into consideration the plug is rated at 13A.  This is why the melting started near the plug, not it any wire kink.  Each cube should take a single plug directly from the power supply...with its own plug...this means no sharing.  3 cable pairs x 12V x 13A = 468W.  More than enough to handle the 350W required by the cube.

2 pcie plugs would have been a seriously cheap solution.  I think the real solution is to remove the crappy plug and hardwire 2x 8AWG lines to bus bars.   

Lesson learned: KnC cut corners, but buyer beware.  Do the math and save your ass.



No this one plug did not run 2 cubes. 1 Pcie per cube. 2 cubes per PSU. PSU rated at 1200 watts.
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October 17, 2014, 07:46:55 PM
SEC INVESTIGATION OF “ALEX GREEN,” MOOPAY LTD, AND SEVEN OTHER CRYPTOCURRENCY COMPANIES


https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sec-investigation-of-alex-green-moolah-moopay-ltd-and-seven-other-cryptocurrency-companies-currently-underway/

Wonder what other 7 companies??
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October 17, 2014, 06:29:09 PM
I think it's safe to say, with such large amount of evidence of wrongdoing, WHY wouldn't a lawyer get involved? This would be a big case with very very large settlement.


There are lots of reasons why a lawyer in the US would be reluctant to get involved.

1) The product was brought from a foreign country.  Generally when purchasing items over the internet from foreign countries it is a matter of "buyer beware".  

Local consumer protection laws only apply to products sold within a country or state.  Products imported from foreign companies only have to pass any customs import restrictions.

2) The product is not directly sold in the US.

3) There is no representative of the manufacturer in the US and no US distributor.  It would be almost impossible to have a state or federal court case in the US against a foreign company with no presence in the US.  

4) The product required a level of specialist knowledge to use.  It is not a normal consumer product.   It is also not a complete product as it requires additional components before it is usable.  

No lawyer would offer "no win/no pay" with little prospect of winning.  So someone would first need to put the lawyer on a retainer.

Finally KNC is not a huge company.  It recently raised 14 million dollars in funding but a "very very large settlement" is unlikely.  Bitfury server farms, for example, are many times larger than the KNC farms.  





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October 17, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
http://s29.postimg.org/d6h6z5wjr/melted1.jpg
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Well I thought I was ok with 2 PSU with stock AWG16 pci-e cables.

Above pic was from Strider 1200 Gold with stock AWG16 cables. It was running 2 of my 4 KNC Titan cubes.

Did this one plug run 2 cubes?  AWG16 are rated to handle 16A if you have top shelf 90C rated wires.  4 cable pairs at 12V is a pretty simple power calculation:  4 x 12V x 16A = 768W

Each cube takes 350W.  2 of these should be lower than the 768W max of those power lines, but you probably didn't take into consideration the plug is rated at 13A.  This is why the melting started near the plug, not it any wire kink.  Each cube should take a single plug directly from the power supply...with its own plug...this means no sharing.  3 cable pairs x 12V x 13A = 468W.  More than enough to handle the 350W required by the cube.

2 pcie plugs would have been a seriously cheap solution.  I think the real solution is to remove the crappy plug and hardwire 2x 8AWG lines to bus bars.   

Lesson learned: KnC cut corners, but buyer beware.  Do the math and save your ass.

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Clueless!
October 17, 2014, 04:07:14 PM
Well latest post from KNC on their main page

still protecting their butts

link

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-112


like the "300mh on straight forward litecoin scrypt mining" quote ...notice how they did not mention using a pool with this

the entire thing is to cover their butt

what a farce

sr. member
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October 17, 2014, 03:05:19 PM

photo storage

Well I thought I was ok with 2 PSU with stock AWG16 pci-e cables.

Above pic was from Strider 1200 Gold with stock AWG16 cables. It was running 2 of my 4 KNC Titan cubes.

Oh and if the likely hood of burning down your house is not bad enough...this is what happens when you try to mine a fast coin...most any other coin then LTC...on the Titan

[2014-10-17 20:01:50] KNC 1[2-1] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:50] KNC 1[2-2] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] KNC 1[2-3] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] Rejected 00027cd4 KNC 0coh Diff 401m/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] Rejected 002c729a KNC 1bcd Diff 22m/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] Rejected 00060a13 KNC 1bmb Diff 165m/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:51] Network difficulty changed to 36 (264.8M)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:52] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2014-10-17 20:01:54] KNC 0[1-0] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:55] Network difficulty changed to 36 (261.7M)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:55] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2014-10-17 20:01:55] KNC 0[1-1] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:55] KNC 0[1-2] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:55] KNC 0[1-3] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:55] Network difficulty changed to 36 (259.7M)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:56] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2014-10-17 20:01:56] KNC 1[2-0] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:56] KNC 1[2-1] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:56] KNC 1[2-2] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:57] KNC 1[2-3] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:57] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:01:57] Rejected 0000a026 KNC 0azu Diff 1/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:57] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:01:57] Rejected 0037b977 KNC 1cev Diff 17m/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:57] Network difficulty changed to 36 (257.9M)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:58] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2014-10-17 20:01:59] KNC 0[1-0] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:59] KNC 0[1-1] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:59] Network difficulty changed to 35 (255.4M)
 [2014-10-17 20:01:59] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2014-10-17 20:02:00] KNC 0[1-2] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:00] KNC 0[1-3] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:00] KNC 1[2-0] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:00] KNC 1[2-1] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] KNC 1[2-2] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] KNC 1[2-3] Flushing stale works (New work)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] Rejected 000a2ff7 KNC 0aon Diff 98m/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] Rejected 001743de KNC 0bal Diff 42m/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2014-10-17 20:02:01] Rejected 0017b352 KNC 1bkn Diff 42m/15m (job not found)
 [2014-10-17 20:02:02] KNC 0[1-0] Flushing stale works (New work)
hero member
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October 17, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
KnC are notorious scammers
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Learn to go against your mind
October 17, 2014, 02:16:40 PM
Can you believe this shit?

Quote
Titan Reaching Higher Speeds


A KnCMiner Titan can easily reach 300+ MH/s on straight-forward litecoin scrypt mining, which is a major bump up from the advertised speeds at the time of ordering the product.But we've been working hard to also have the Titan mine at these stratospheric speeds on several of the largest pools on the scrypt networks, including coin-switching multipools.


The pool operators at Clevermining are currently working to implement several enhancements and configurations tailored for the Titan, and will automatically detect the Titan by examining the payload of the stratum protocol. These updates could become available as soon as this weekend, and at several different geographical server locations for lowest possible latency.


We're also working with and have tested our hardware against Coinotron and we are happy with the results so far. We have another few enhancements in development planned for release in the next few days.

In addition we're working with the embedded controller configuration to reduce flushwork to further increase speeds, and we've already made enhancements in the area. Those upgrades will be distributed in a new firmware update shortly, as we're waiting for the implementation of these new configurations at some of these pools.


We'll continue working with pool operators as we continue shipping Titans over the days and weeks coming and we'll update this space with more specific info as it becomes available.


For now, we're happy to conclude that there is no other hardware scrypt miner on the market coming close to the power of the Titan. Currently we have no units left for sale, but we'll update this space if that changes in the future.


Best, The KnC Team, October 17, Stockholm.


OMG! Where is the YouTube video proof of that? We wont to see multipool scrypt mining with 300mgh and killawat measure... and selfish smiles of both KnC
sr. member
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October 17, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
KNC 'customer care' policies contrast sharply with best practices in modern industry.

As an example, I ordered a gaming headset from Amazon a couple of weeks ago. After a few days it quit working. I filed for a refund and they supplied a UPS label. Within 2 hours of the UPS driver picking up my return I had an email from Amazon saying that they had credited my account for the refund. Yes, you read that right. Within 2 hours of the UPS driver picking up my package for delivery.

I'll be sure to purchase from Amazon again.

And I'll be sure to do everything I can to make sure that anyone considering purchasing a KNC product understands that they are very likely to receive a faulty, unreliable and unsafe product and that if they do KNC's notion of 'best practices' in customer care are to ignore difficult questions and avoid refunds at any cost to their reputation.

Most basic is GIVE A REFUND TO UNSHIPPED MERCHANDISE!! This not mentioning they are behind their schedule and anyone that has not been shipped to yet, should be full refund right? NOPE, they are refusing to. BTW, this is illegal for them to do in Sweden too.
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