Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 472. (Read 3050075 times)

Man is KNC sticking it to the FrankenJupiter Folks big time..they really really don't want to refund that nice *you should get a Neptune Refund* cash and send them
used parts.


I particularly like the statement that a broken resistor should not effect performance...un-frigging believable

(man glad I did not go that route)

anyway here is the link

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/41095-knc-s-response-to-me-pathetic

and below is a copy/paste


Please review our Terms and Conditions that you agreed to prior placing the order: here: https://www.kncminer.com/pages/tandc
We would also like to inform you that we are business to business company and are not business to consumer.
You may request to replace ASIC that has issue with yellow DC/DC. Engineers intentionally installed more resistors that ASIC needed, therefore, if the board missed couple of resistors, it should not influence on performance of the board anyhow.
Also, resending you directions for installation of the ASICs:
The link to the video demonstration on how to mount the ASIC boards in the case can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wq0fl657n3...430_200829.mp4
Please note that this is a provisional video and we will provide a more clear and detailed video as soon as possible.
Below are the steps to take to assemble the miner.
1) The controller board can be placed outside of the case on a non conductive surface. To put the miner together you will need to first apply the thermal paste to the chip, you should put a thin line of the paste on one side of the chip and then spread out the past using a small flat spatula or similar. The thermal paste should be applied evenly on the chip.
2) You can then place the cooler in the case and then connect up the fan cable to the ASIC board and place it on the cooler. Once you have the ASIC board placed and aligned with the cooler, you can then place small white feet on the asic board to hold it in place.
3) The cables for the controller board can only be put in one way, there is a small notch on one of the connectors and this is the side that should be connected to the controller board. The other end connects to the ASIC board with the cable coming out of the case.

Best regards |
Med vänlig hälsning
Anna Jagdhar


Just re-read the above still can't believe how bad they are screwing the Franken Jupiter Folks....

Searing

how is this getting 3.5 when its only 17 boards

I used the foam that came in the cases to line up the boards and add uniform pressure against the shelves. So I basically sandwiched them using the adjustable shelves. All the cards work but the bean head didn't know how to count to 18 when he was counting the data cables so I got shorted 1.

Was not going to wait for anything else before I got these damn things up and running. I actually use the shelf I have to squeeze the sinks to the boards better than the shit cases they sent the boards in.

KnC's recent sucking may have something to do with the timing of this:

--->>>  Swedes to give six-hour workday a go

http://www.thelocal.se/20140408/swedish-workers-to-test-six-hour-work-days

But I mean seriously, KnC -- what the heck is going on.   So you shipped the Super Jupiters to get back at your best customers?

Swedes.

You should have used Elfa shelving L)L

are there any new updates with KNC? 

Edgar, hysteria does not suite you.

The Swedes do seem to value loyalty highly. This story could almost be set in the context of the epic Nordic/Mediterranean personality differences.

It looks like those of you who got emotional about KNC entering the mining business and converted their Neptune orders to FrankenJups before Neptune was late shot themselves in the foot and also got messed with by KNC.

So I went all "datorhall" on my set up. Was able to drop my temps by over 10c.  chugging away at 3.5 TH/s
https://i.imgur.com/tIGX0oz.jpg

Good luck understanding what is obvious when you ignore what is obvious!

did KnC offer 2 for one Neptunes for NO reason??

Are they holding back the 3TH that were paid for MONTHS ago for no reason??

Did they lie about not having enough module ports/control boards/etc etc for no reason??

Are they mining with more than 10% of the ENTIRE network for no reason?? (Not less than 5% of what they have sold)

Did they ship out boxes and boxes of used/damaged hardware for no reason??

Did they then resend out more boxes of used/damaged hardware wrapped in a bit of wire for no reason??

Did they tell investduhs who spent a miminum of 10 THOUSAND USD to 'just push it back in place with a pencil' for no reason??

Did they rivet the cases shut with multiple warnings that opening them will result in the loss of the '90 day warranty' for no reason??

Has Phonie X the helpful scammer turned up out of the blue with a buttload of 'support' for no reason??

Like i said....

Good luck understanding what is obvious when you ignore what is obvious!

OMG. You're not back from the store yet?
Get with the program.
What do you want?....  To wait for them to ship you paste and wire?
The coin you could have made today would have already covered the cost of paste and wire...
and nobody is going to show up at your door to assemble it.
It's up to you how much you want to lose by dilly-dallying around.

From news on 4/08/2014:

only solution - get refunds. These people suck, plain and simple. Stop being dumbass doormats funding these tools and putting up with being treated like dogs.

I didnt get 18 working boards, I got 18 boards and NO PASTE OR WIRE, unable to test without the paste

great knc I can even see the paste smudges on the boards where you have tried to clean the chip

Right, I've followed that chain of events/thoughts pretty well so far, and I am familiar with organofcorti's claims too.

The data hall is full of jupiters, not neptunes, right ?

And it is hash power from this hall which makes it possible for KNC to provide you with a plan B in case Neptune is late, right ?

So basically,  many of you cancelled your Neptune orders for refunds or for FrankenJupiter pain when Neptune wasn't late, and those of you who didn't got rewarded with the promise of a 2 for 1 deal.

And you cancelled because KNC built a data hall out of company profits and started mining bitcoin just like everybody else ?

The only complexity in this story seems to be their promise not to mine with more than 5% of the hashrate they sell …  I guess if organofcorti's analysis is correct, the claim that they broke this promise must be true.

Good luck to all of you miners hoping to have bitcoin mining all to your self.

Early on KnCMiner stated that they would never mine with more than 5% of the hash rate they sell.  It was a form of customer protection, a hand-on-heart to say "we will not compete with our customers".

The statement is still there on the FAQ page:

Miners don't like Datorhall, because it is a mining mammoth, for pictures see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--7216

As a miner, those endless rows of ASICs in that huge ex-helicopter hangar is anathema.  Miners have all kinds of emotional responses: nausea... feeling of hopelessness... awe.

KnCMiner may have 11.5% of the ENTIRE bitcoin hash rate, see http://organofcorti.blogspot.co.nz/2014/04/april-27th-2014-weekly-hashrate.html

They took the first Neptune orders in November 2013, and Datorhall popped up not long after.  Some people believe that the "Death Star" was financed using our pre-order money.  Terrible thought.  Imagine competing against a vast army of ASICs that was funded with your pre-order money?

We're all feeling the pinch of the rising mining difficulty.  To increase our dwindling share of the total pie, we order the latest and greatest miner from (at the time) the ASIC mining company with the best reputation.  But instead of getting more hashrate, we have funded one of the largest bitcoin mining farms in the world, which increases the mining difficulty, hence decreasing our profits - our own money being used against us.

We don't have proof of this.  Maybe most (or all) of the Neptune pre-order money has been sunk into 20nm development, and Datorhall was funded solely from 28nm sales.  Even so, miners don't want to compete with an ASIC manufacturer who can purchase their own miners at cost.  If they had so much profit from 28nm, perhaps they should have done the decent thing and funded 20nm out of that.

ok, just curious … what is all the angst about … the datacenter ?

Correct. They stated shipping as "Q1/Q2".

So its not late yet, right ?

Q1/Q2 of 2014, which translates to June 30th, 2014.