Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 507. (Read 3050076 times)

You answered your own question, everyone wanted them, Including KnC. They ran out of space adding modules to peoples hosted miners to run on the side for themselves and then kept all the control boards for themselves and set up a large data center, probably using November boards, which will be dismantled and sent out to the original hosting customers before KNC deploy their 20nm product in the data center, which the probably own a large % of due to refunds, but it's okay because the mining facility paid for that.

I still can't grasp my head around KnC's latest sales decisions. Why would you sell now a controller board when just a few months ago everyone would have given everything for them? Same for the upgrade boards. Unless they plan to unload their whole datacenter jupiters to replace them with neptunes. I can't think of any other reason right now.

Controller boards now on sale.

https://www.kncminer.com/products/controller-board

f you are still waiting on a refund from a neptune i advice you call KnC i just spoke with Anna and a request has been put in for my refund to be made in bitcoin. Don 't be scared to yell at the poor wee Scandinavian girl, she works for the devil, oh and don't let her talk over you as that is what she will try and do.

This has already been discussed numerous times: only Bitfury used the proper design flow for the mining chip: BSIM (or equivalent analog/mixed-signal) simulation, but this was his first ASIC project. Everyone else used the low-power digital design tools that are emphatically, obviously bad at designing/simulating high-power chips and attempted to saved time by skipping the analog-level design verification.

Because they made all this shit from PRE-ORDER MONEY.

WE funded them with peorders. They were the nice guys with under promise over deliver, netwotk protection statement... and so and so.....

Now they fu.. our ass....

I couldn't say a word for example Bitmain do this, or Bitfury made his own mine... They never used customer funds to show something.

You wrote you ordered Neptunes, I think you got here at this stage. Check the beginning of this whole shit and you'll understand what is going on here.

Ps: And they on their way to make the largest mine on the world..... (maybe)

f you are still waiting on a refund from a neptune i advice you call KnC i just spoke with Anna and a request has been put in for my refund to be made in bitcoin. Don 't be scared to yell at the poor wee Scandinavian girl, she works for the devil, oh and don't let her talk over you as that is what she will try and do.

Ok, maybe I´m just dump, but please be patient.
I´m reading this topic for a while and was wondering why some people are getting so angry.

I really don´t like the tone of some of you here, just because you are shitting bricks, you can talk normal.
Why are you guys getting so emotional?
You know you shouldn´t play with money you can not afford to lose.
Ok, it maybe sounds like a teacher. Just wanna let you know, I also ordered 3 Neptunes in November with a loan from my Bank.
Nobody forced me, it was my decision. So I can just blame my self.
I understand that KnC is behaving not very nice and customer friendly in some points. We all waiting for infos.
Clearly I would also be angry if I had to wait for weeks until I get my refund, or even an answer.
But until now, this didn´t happen to me with KnC.
Every time I wrote an email, I got an answer and had to wait at latest 2 days for it.
Maybe I´m just lucky?
I´d like to understand, why anybody changed his order to FrankenJup?
Ok, you´ll probably mining next week, but you´ll have 28nm and just 3 month warranty. Never ever would have done that.
Also wouldn´t change my order to Titans. It´s just scrypt, not scrypt-n and I think, we all are pretty sure, that it´ll come to late.

So either stay with Neptunes or refund.
So after all the speculations here, lets stay with the facts. And please correct me, if I´m wrong!

Until the Jupiters, KnC delivered as the one and only european company who builds asics as promised and way better.
Why would they saw off the branch they're sitting on?
They have a good name, they´ll surely try to keep it. They earned money, and yes of course, they want more.
Fine for me, as long as I get, what I paid for and I get it in time.

Who can prove, that this won´t happen? Q1 is over, I know, but they never promised it. Although we all wanted to believe it so desperately.

And please don´t compare AMD or NVIDIA 20nm problems with asics. It´s completely different.

I am also waiting for a refund from KNC, I paid in fiat and i gave them all the info, no replies. it's been more than 2 weeks now...

I would so love to see him do a 28nm shrink.

This has already been discussed numerous times: only Bitfury used the proper design flow for the mining chip: BSIM (or equivalent analog/mixed-signal) simulation, but this was his first ASIC project.

One SHA engine is simple, deceptively so, cram so many together on a chip and you get horrendous power and leakage issues that are more like multipipe GPUs than CPUs or SOCs or anything.

If it was sofa king straightforward, every SHA ASIC ever thought of so far would have come in below, even at power target, on time, or even at all. (AM had a fail, BFL had a fail. and don't forget they were working with reputable design and layout houses. And there might have been a couple of private venture flops we've never heard of)

You've got one guy who designed all Samsung top shit failing to get his projected 2Gh out of the cointerras for example. Hashfast approached the SHA ASIC game as "this is going to be a piece of piss" and got their fingers burned off to the shoulder.

Anyway, when you've gone out and made a SHA ASIC that came in on time, with power and frequency within even 30% of the theoretical capabilities of the process, then I'll let you tell me how simple SHA ASICs are to make.

Sneak preview of Frankenjup straight out of the shipping box:



 

Ok, maybe I´m just dump, but please be patient.
I´m reading this topic for a while and was wondering why some people are getting so angry.

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My greatest fear! So far I've had no delivery problems other than fans that had popped off (KNC) and some loose boards (BitMain) but all of my equipment has worked as promised. I suppose it's my turn to suffer.