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newbie
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Still waiting on the return guys. Will let you all know if / when I get it.
hero member
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Posting since relevant.

You'll forgive us if we don't pity you for stressing out over something so inconsequential as a message board account. Your arrogance is not a good trait in this scenario, someone else has lost money because of your incompetence and you want to walk away for free. This is your fault at the end of the day, at the least you did not use a secure password on your account and at the worst you have stolen a loan.

There are two options that I can see: You pay altcoin half of what he lost to have the account returned or have the account returned for free, but receive a tsunami of negative rep making it useless.

Insults aside, the fact that you see a compromised developer account with download links and such being pushed to users of this forum as inconsequential says a lot about you. I don't care about the account this is not why I'm stressed. I'm stressed because I want to be sure the developer account doesn't start passing out infected links in the future.

SwingDev

I can only take you at your word your account was hacked.  If it transpires later on you loaned / sold / gave away / borrowed to another / left your account open at a cyber cafe and walked away / took a dive / or some other thing that wasn't having your account hacked, I won't be very impressed with you.

I wouldn't be very impressed either but I didn't do those things. Somone managed to get my password or recover my account through other means. That's what happened.



Altcoin4Life, I have no power over other people's rep reports. I probably wont be able to get them to remove the rep on either of our accounts.

I will update my rep to positive on your account, I will give you the little BTC I have, and if I manage to get more BTC I will try to send more your way. I would have like to send half immediately upon return but unfortunately I don't have that much BTC atm.

To be frank at this point I'd be just as happy with you helping me link the old thread to a new one and destroying access to the account. My only concern in this matter is the security risk to my holders. If it was "something so inconsequential as a message board account" as fortify over here says I would have given up long ago.

Hi Swing

OK if you do find you can transfer some money that would be good in the future some time.

THERE IS NO SECURITY RISK AT ALL OF ME SENDING MALICIOUS LINKS TO ANY OF YOUR COIN HOLDERS ...0% RISK.... IMPOSSIBLE


DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT I HAVE NOT EVEN LOGGED IN TO MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT  SINCE 14 JANUARY??

MURDEROUSKIRK
Last Active:   14 January 2016, 22:45:01



OK please remove your feedback, i will also remove my negative as well.

Once you have done this let me know.


Let me know

Thanks
Altcoin4life



Done.

Also I just meant that it'd be at risk if you decided to sell it to recover your losses.

I did not mean to imply you would try to infect my community my apologies.

Once you return the account I will be sure to post positive rep from both SwingDev and MurderousKirk.



OK thanks

I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THIS ACCOUNT.

ALSO ONCE YOU GET YOUR ACCOUNT BACK YOU CAN CONTACT THE USERS THAT LEFT MURDEROUSKIRK NEG TRUST TO CONFIRM YOU HAVE GOT YOUR ACCOUNT BACK AND CAN THEY PLEASE REMOVE THEIR NEG TRUST THEY LEFT KIRK.

I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK TO YOU, PLEASE WAIT.

ONCE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE ACCOUNT PLEASE POST HERE AS WELL AS YOUR DEV THREAD CONFIRMING THE ACCOUNT HAS BEEN RETURNED TO YOU SO THAT THE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN YOUR SWINGCOIN WILL KNOW.

Thanks
Altcoin4life
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Posting since relevant.

You'll forgive us if we don't pity you for stressing out over something so inconsequential as a message board account. Your arrogance is not a good trait in this scenario, someone else has lost money because of your incompetence and you want to walk away for free. This is your fault at the end of the day, at the least you did not use a secure password on your account and at the worst you have stolen a loan.

There are two options that I can see: You pay altcoin half of what he lost to have the account returned or have the account returned for free, but receive a tsunami of negative rep making it useless.

Insults aside, the fact that you see a compromised developer account with download links and such being pushed to users of this forum as inconsequential says a lot about you. I don't care about the account this is not why I'm stressed. I'm stressed because I want to be sure the developer account doesn't start passing out infected links in the future.

SwingDev

I can only take you at your word your account was hacked.  If it transpires later on you loaned / sold / gave away / borrowed to another / left your account open at a cyber cafe and walked away / took a dive / or some other thing that wasn't having your account hacked, I won't be very impressed with you.

I wouldn't be very impressed either but I didn't do those things. Somone managed to get my password or recover my account through other means. That's what happened.



Altcoin4Life, I have no power over other people's rep reports. I probably wont be able to get them to remove the rep on either of our accounts.

I will update my rep to positive on your account, I will give you the little BTC I have, and if I manage to get more BTC I will try to send more your way. I would have like to send half immediately upon return but unfortunately I don't have that much BTC atm.

To be frank at this point I'd be just as happy with you helping me link the old thread to a new one and destroying access to the account. My only concern in this matter is the security risk to my holders. If it was "something so inconsequential as a message board account" as fortify over here says I would have given up long ago.

Hi Swing

OK if you do find you can transfer some money that would be good in the future some time.

THERE IS NO SECURITY RISK AT ALL OF ME SENDING MALICIOUS LINKS TO ANY OF YOUR COIN HOLDERS ...0% RISK.... IMPOSSIBLE


DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT I HAVE NOT EVEN LOGGED IN TO MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT  SINCE 14 JANUARY??

MURDEROUSKIRK
Last Active:   14 January 2016, 22:45:01



OK please remove your feedback, i will also remove my negative as well.

Once you have done this let me know.


Let me know

Thanks
Altcoin4life



Done.

Also I just meant that it'd be at risk if you decided to sell it to recover your losses.

I did not mean to imply you would try to infect my community my apologies.

Once you return the account I will be sure to post positive rep from both SwingDev and MurderousKirk.
hero member
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Well, Altcoin4Life flat out refused to return the account without payment.

Looks like I'm not getting it back. I'm going to work on moving this thread to a less toxic forum. If you want to encourage him to return it still you guys are pretty equipped to leave him rep and make posts at this point. Shame his greed is getting in the way this badly.

It should be noted than any positive rep this account gains will negatively impact Altcoin4Life's loan business and pressure him into returning the account.

So.. I might do some REP farming.

I'm going to look for a more secure forum to make our thread in.

Hi Swingdev

OK i have made a decision. I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FAR TOO LONG.

THEYMOS WILL PROBABLY TAKE A LONG TIME AS IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS NOT RESPONDING.


I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS

1) WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO PAY SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO ME = YOU MAKE A POST ON THIS FORUM - STATING HOW MUCH YOU PAID - WITH PROOF TO MY ADDRESS 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop

ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THIS I WILL REPLY CONFIRMING TO EVERYONE I HAVE RECEIVED SOMETHING

2) YOU PM AND REQUEST THE FOLLOWING USERS TO REMOVE THEIR NEUTRAL AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, THEY SHOULD CONFIRM THEY WILL REMOVE THEIR FEEDBACK.

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SwingDev

THEY SHOULD IDEALLY POST ON THIS THREAD CONFIRMING THEY HAVE DELETED FEEDBACK.

ONLY ONCE HAVE THEY DONE THIS I WILL GIVE YOUR ACCOUNT BACK.

I WILL PM YOU AFTER, IF I DO NOT RETURN IT ASAP THEY CAN AGAIN LEAVE ME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR GOING BACK ON MY WORD.


So then Swingdev, let me know if you agree and hopefully this issue will be solved.

Thanks
Altcoin4life
newbie
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Well, Altcoin4Life flat out refused to return the account without payment.

Looks like I'm not getting it back. I'm going to work on moving this thread to a less toxic forum. If you want to encourage him to return it still you guys are pretty equipped to leave him rep and make posts at this point. Shame his greed is getting in the way this badly.

It should be noted than any positive rep this account gains will negatively impact Altcoin4Life's loan business and pressure him into returning the account.

So.. I might do some REP farming.

I'm going to look for a more secure forum to make our thread in.
newbie
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The support from you guys never ceases to amaze me. The swing community really is a breath of fresh air.

While I immensely appreciate the offer to help me buy my account back from this guy, I simply cannot place the burden of this on you guys. Nor can I publicly comply with buying my stolen property back. Doing so would make me an even bigger target for future theft.

If you want to understand my logic behind not buying the account you can go here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13698992

I'm predominately a web marketing guy. I haven't been shy about this fact. Part of my experience in web marketing has taught me to look for the silver lining and act upon it. You can always polish a turd, and a polished turd is more valuable than no turd at all. As far as stolen accounts go we've honestly hit it pretty good.

Let me explain. This is how I see our current situation.

A: While I do not have access to the developer account and my years of effort in it, we know exactly where it is. It's being held by Altcoin4Life who has a pretty clean rep. He has not logged into MurderousKirk since the 14th. We can see if it's active or being held dormant and safe and we know who's behind it. The swing ANN has not been edited since August 28, 2015, and should any changes be made to it without my permission, we know who's responsible.

B: As messed up as it is, small altcoins survive and thrive on drama. The longer Altcoin4Life refuses to return my account, the more attention swing gets. Don't believe me? Just look at the buy support on bittrex that wasn't there till my account got stolen. The larger holders have been doing nothing but stockpiling on the drama.

C: I've proven that my account was stolen and that this account is the real dev. It's there for everyone to see. Should any changes be made to this thread I can just start a new one (possibly on a more secure forum) and move on.

D: If I feel like it I can make a nice video report / instructional video on how to secure your account and be sure you don't suffer the same fate as the Swing developer did. Yay free promotional topics!

E: Theymos still might return my account.

This is genuinely nothing but free advertising at this point guys. While it kinda sucks that I lost my account, I'm happy polishing the turd for a while if it means adding a few sparks to Swing.

Anyway.. I'm just digging for a silver lining here.


If anyone wants to follow the full conversation on this topic, here's my scam accusation thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-swing-developer-hero-account-stolen-sold-to-altcoin4life-in-scam-loan-1343710
legendary
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He's a lot of work put into building his image ..
This is his identity.
I know what it means because I also lost my account for over a month.
hero member
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SwingDev ( MURDEROUSKIRK ), Too bad nerves, please tell me your address BTC, it will send you 0.05BTC.

Pay this guy and finish the case.

Personally, I think it's not fair to require money for the situation.

Paying now results in getting hacked once again in the furture. I personally wouldnt pay anything. With his "we both made errors"... Once a thief, always a thief.

but thats my 50 cents...

the best way for him to make a profit out of it, is to hand over the account, invest in SWING and let the dev works his magic...
legendary
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SwingDev ( MURDEROUSKIRK ), Too bad nerves, please tell me your address BTC, it will send you 0.05BTC.

Pay this guy and finish the case.

Personally, I think it's not fair to require money for the situation.
newbie
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Altcoin4life has decided to try to sell me my stolen account back. I'm going to try my luck with Theymos for a while.

And I do intend to pass some BTC towards Altcoin4life for the recovery should my portfolio ever grow again. His loss prevented my entire community from malicious attacks via impersonation and evil edits. It's also potentially led to the recovery of my account. Currently I have less than 0.1 liquid btc to trade with sadly. For now the best I can do is give him favorable feedback.

Hi Swingdev

THANKS FOR FINALLY SIGNING A MESSAGE PROVING YOU ARE THE REAL OWNER OF THE ACCOUNT!

I asked for this message a long time ago.... we could have saved a lot of time and hassle if you just gave me proof of signed message 1 week ago!

I know you have sent a report to theymos BUT this will probably take time to get your account back.

Now as you know i have lost 0.13 BTC from this defaulted loan that has now turned out to be hacked. This collateral has neg trust and is of no use to me at all. you say it has use to you as the dev account.

WE BOTH MADE ERRORS.

YOU made errors by:

1 - Not securing the murderouskirk account properly with a secure password... or other malware etc

2- Not posting a scam accusation on this forum immediately after you realised.

I MADE ERRORS by:

not getting a staked address from an old post on this forum. Accepting the thief's story and transferring coins.

As we both made errors i believe it is best you make a partial transfer to me for my loss BEFORE I PM YOU THE PASSWORD.

I believe you have a part to blame as you made errors with securing the original account  by being hacked.

ALSO AS YOU SAY THIS IS A DEV ACCOUNT YOU WILL PROBABLY USE MURDEROUSKIRK TO EARN SOMETHING IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH YOUR RELATED ALT COINS YOU DEVELOP.... SO YOU WILL BENEFIT FINANCIALLY ....WHILE I HAVE A LOSS.

Please tell me by pm how much can you pay me as a partial payment that his FAIR FOR BOTH OF US?

Let me know by pm

Thanks
Altcoin4life

newbie
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We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed Smiley

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.

You I was able to send him a signed message for a BTC addy fortunately. Guess I just have to wait and see.
check https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/altcoin4life-hacked-account-collateral-4-murderouskirk-swingdev-advice-1341680
did you real not have staked btc address?

Hey, thanks for the link. He made two posts and the discussion is going on HERE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1341682.new#new

I managed to find a signable address, I didn't bother to look at the start because he seemed willing to help and I didn't feel like digging though 100's of posts. All is explained in my response.

Also, to those out of sync. You will need to re-download the blockchain or switch to linux to avoid the issue. This is the result of some rounding issues in the reward code. I'd like to fix it when I get the chance but am currently very busy. Plus I'm pretty focused on this whole stolen account crap. This coin is in need of more devs for updates to happen faster. Till then re-downloading the chain and using linux is the best solution.
legendary
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Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed Smiley

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.

You I was able to send him a signed message for a BTC addy fortunately. Guess I just have to wait and see.
check https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/altcoin4life-hacked-account-collateral-4-murderouskirk-swingdev-advice-1341680
did you real not have staked btc address?
sr. member
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Checked wallet which has been staking fine this AM to find the dreaded (out of sync) message. I am still connected to the network with 11 peers but wallet is showing out of sync, anyone else seeing this? is the network ok? Using wallet v1.0.0.1-g32a928e

Yeah same here, unfortunately.
legendary
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Syscoin- Changing the way people do business.
Checked wallet which has been staking fine this AM to find the dreaded (out of sync) message. I am still connected to the network with 11 peers but wallet is showing out of sync, anyone else seeing this? is the network ok? Using wallet v1.0.0.1-g32a928e
hero member
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MOBU
HI,

OK...I guess I am stuck with the GE in this wallet. Just under 86k, which isn't much but I could have at least had something to get me going with SWING. YoBits wallet is STILL under maint., which means I can't even sell it. Or course, the market for GE is dead anyway. I suppose I just won't be saving any SWING.

Good Luck,

CapnBDL
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newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed Smiley

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.

You I was able to send him a signed message for a BTC addy fortunately. Guess I just have to wait and see.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1006
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed Smiley

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed Smiley

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.
newbie
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Q: Who is the dev?
What's up! I'm _Crypto. I've got a few handles that I go by. On bitcointalk I'm MurderousKirk. In IRC I'm _Crypto. In slack I'm IAm_Crypto. On twitter I'm @CryptoPumpInfo, where I'm known for occasionally pointing out blatant pump and dumps still in the accumulation stage. I run the cryptocommunity slack group where 545+ users have sighed up and chat / lurk daily. The only coins I have made prior to this are Greed and GE.

Q: What is the max supply?
40 mil. But it will take quite some time to reach that.

Q: How can I get in contact with you?
The fastest way to reach me is with a DM on slack or twitter.

Q: How can I figure out what reward to expect?
So basically, POS rewards = 1% of the last 3 digits of the block count.
POW is the same, only there is a multiplier. It's factored by taking the number in the thousandth place and multiplying it by 10, and the result is the percentage of POS miners get.
I need to come up with a way to explain it better but the chart should help.
So for example, on block 8532:
POS reward = 5.32
POW reward = 80% of 5.32 = 4.256
The only deviation is when the thousandth place is 0. Rather than have miners earn nothing they earn 100%.

Q: What is HiPos?
It's not very well documented, but from what I've gathered the only difference between HiPos and POS is that in HiPos your weight does not stop building after it hits your coin count. So if you have 10 coins and keep them offline for months, when you come back you will have 10 weight in POS coins, and more weight in HiPos that allows you to help get your fair share that you missed. HiPos also allows for some strategic locking and unlocking that was more relevant in Greed and GE than Swing.

Q: How long does it take my coins to mature and start staking?
About five minutes. (Unless you have a really small amount, then it might take longer.)

I'll add more info here as questions are asked.
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