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Topic: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex! - page 8. (Read 119459 times)

hero member
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I can mine. Just need a working pool to mine from.
hero member
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I'd like to help, but it's about timing and how much time I have to get ready. I'm mostly staking with Odroid, which is in a place, where I have limited access. And my pc is on for max few hours per day. Two weeks before fork shoud be sufficient time for me to update my Odroid, but with my pc I can't help.
newbie
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I would be willing to help with the launch.

A hard fork is fine for me.

I can do staking and mining. I run a private mining pool for myself. I created it a several months ago when I couldn't find a Swing pool on the correct block chain. And since the halt last month it seems like I'm the only one mining Swing.

I stake on Windows and run my pool on a Linux VM (Ubuntu). I can usually build the Linux wallet from source no problem but I fail when building for Windows. So if a built Windows version could be provided along with the source that would be awesome.

I could begin staking probably within an hour of getting the new wallet. I only mine 6 hours a day at night (power cost), so depending when the launch is it might be a several hours before I would mine. But I will adjust the schedule if the time gap is large and/or the network is struggling.

hero member
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hashnova.com

I was mining there for about 3 hrs. I requested a payout

txid- 65e193ae538bca94a28b519b7ae52f7feab79fc68646e59ab5d207cb86774487

atm has not shown up in wallet

Was only for 108 swing
hero member
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Another month of CryptoID explorer paid.  Smiley

Thanks Man!!!

Fantastic! I greatly appreciate contributions to the network from the community like this. I'm sure everyone else does too.

zpool is no longer working correctly. Withdrawls not coming into wallet.

And hashgoal is down

altmining.com as well is down

Does anyone have a working mining pool for swing?

Altmining was the only standard pool I had listed as actively mining Swing. I'm not sure if there are any pools still online hosting us. If you find any let us know!
hero member
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This post has been marked as important! (Try not to skip over it  Wink)

Ok I'm locking the poll.

The vote ended 6:3. Swing will do a pure upgrade, and will not swap / re-brand into a new currency.

I will need a bit of help with this. Since we are going to do a hard fork, we will need some stakers and miners to help launch the update when the exchanges update. What we need is for users to begin staking and mining as soon as possible after the update gets launched and goes live on exchanges. (I may have the exchanges pause trading for a few hours after updating, giving the network and services time to sync up to the new fork).

If you would like to be one of the first stakers / miners on the new fork please let me know! I will try to reach out to people on this list with ETA's and upgraded wallets as best I can. (I will of course keep the thread up to date with this information as well.)

If the new fork goes too long without breaking blocks (over an hour), it could cause issues.

If you think we should do a soft fork instead of a hard fork, now is the time to speak up.

Users currently on the launch list:
Miners: 0
Stakers: 0

How the update will look from the user perspective:
  • Users will be alerted in the thread that a mandatory update is about to launch. I will start giving out ETA's once I've finalized and discussed the patch with exchange operators. I will try to give at least 24 hours notice.
  • Users will be given links to wallets / source code and asked to download the new wallet, and re-download the blockchain. (You will only need to re-download any post-update blocks. If you make a blockchain backup today you can save yourself some time.
  • Users that fail to update will slowly lose network connectivity. Any transactions made on the old version after the update has released will not be seen or accepted by users on the new versions.
  • Users on the new version will only connect to peers also on the new version. Transactions and blocks generated will only be seen / accepted by updated peers. Users on the old version will be ignored by the network.
  • Users on the new version will start breaking blocks with the new reward schema within a few blocks after launch (if not on the first block).

Still trying to get my head around the staking changes, its early here so I probably just need more coffee.
Either way, I will remain in Swing. Its such an underrated

Rewards will slowly increase or decrease over every 10,000 block cycle. POS rewards will increase from 0.00 to 9.99, and Miner rewards will decrease from 9.99 to 0.00.

To figure out expected reward:
Example block: 123,456
Start with the last 4 numbers of the block count. (3456)
Remove the last digit. (345)
345 is your base reward number.
POS workers will receive base reward formatted. (3.45)
POW workers will receive 1000-base formatted. (1000-345=655 (6.55))
Blocks 123,450 - 123,459 will all generate the same reward, as the base reward digits have not changed.

Upgrading to rewards like this will help secure the network from forks caused by rounding disagreement. It will also give us simpler and longer reward cycles.
hero member
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zpool is no longer working correctly. Withdrawls not coming into wallet.

And hashgoal is down

altmining.com as well is down

Does anyone have a working mining pool for swing?
hero member
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hero member
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newbie
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Still trying to get my head around the staking changes, its early here so I probably just need more coffee.

Either way, I will remain in Swing. Its such an underrated
hero member
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Just sayin,

I really like Swing the way it is. Its one of my favorite coins and has been for a long time.

I hope that its not changed too much but will support any decision made moving forward. Thanks to the dev for all of his work.

Thanks for the input Smiley

Here's the proposed changes btw. Happy to hear opinions.

To re-cap, in Swing we are currently working on a core upgrade to improve stability, along with implementing a new rewards schema.

We are turning this:



Into this:




These changes are expected to improve stability by reducing the chance of forking problems, but also changes rewards a bit.
member
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Just sayin,

I really like Swing the way it is. Its one of my favorite coins and has been for a long time.

I hope that its not changed too much but will support any decision made moving forward. Thanks to the dev for all of his work.
hero member
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Nice volume on Bittrex! 24hr is over 4 BTC.

It looks like the vote is currently leaning towards a clean update with no swap. I'll be pretty busy this weekend so I think we should close the vote on Monday.

I'm also going to start pulling together the update in case we do end up going with a swapless update.

Side node, I do like the ideas this is generating (coin locking etc..) and I'm happy to see swing holders creating accounts to voice themselves.

Keep in mind we can always continue to upgrade in the future. Even if we don't implement every idea in the coming patch, we might in the future. And if we get a good enough set of ideas that would work for a swap, we might re-consider doing so even if the vote lands on a swapless upgrade.

The vote could still easily flip to a coin-swap, so if you haven't voiced yourself yet be sure to vote.
(Even if your account is too new to vote, I'll take your vote into consideration manually via comments if you seem like a holder.)


Keep the opinions and ideas flowing! Smiley
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thinking about time deposits like HOdl has... voting been quite conservative so far though  Smiley

Nice swinging on Bittrex btw Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco4z98nIQY

Hey guys,

Hope you all had a good 4th.

Since I haven't gotten much feedback I've started a poll in regards to swapping.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541185.new#new

Let me know how you think Swing should proceed!

hero member
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Hey guys,

Hope you all had a good 4th.

Since I haven't gotten much feedback I've started a poll in regards to swapping.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541185.new#new

Let me know how you think Swing should proceed!
hero member
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Anybody here with interesting reason why not to swap? Wink


Only reasons I can think of is mostly that we will have to get the new coin listed on an exchange again, also I told the Bittrex exchange operators we were planning on upgrading Swing, so they might get grumpy if we decide to go with a swap instead. Also it would take some time to build everything and prepare for the swap.

However, if we think a swap is the way to go I'm fine with that choice.

(I suppose we also have the option to upgrade Swing, and coin-swap to something new as well. Give holders the choice to stay or swap.)
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I would go with swap for SWING EVOLVED  Smiley
Bittrex is great, Polo would be super great, much bigger volume there, we can try for that.

murderouskirk is also kinda fan of swap as I read it  Smiley

Anybody here with interesting reason why not to swap? Wink

So the removal notice is gone. Looks like we may have made it off the chopping block Smiley.

How do you guys want to proceed?

Thanks for update, dev.

Thinking about swap...
 - with new reward scheme we will kinda have new coin anyway (we can call it SWING EVOLVED [SWEVO] Grin
 - people like new coins, both miners and stakers: they can get nice market share quite cheeply, also new start is always exciting
 - some people swap, some don't, some swap only part: it can drive price of "old" Swing up as well (swaped coins are burned = lower supply)
    (technically "old" swing would be kept with that rounding problem, so maybe most would swap, but some coins wouldn't be swaped anyway (lost wallets etc.)
 - with new coin (and swap) we don't have to deal with soft/hard fork
 - new coin = new people = bigger trading => Bittrex might also like that :-)

What you guys think?

I actually think there are a lot of pros to starting a new coin as well. New coins are significantly easier to work with than old coins, as well as more popular. Plus it gives us more flexibility on how we want to approach the market. I actually have a few market stimulus / distribution ideas that would require starting fresh, so we could consider taking advantage of that (along with other ideas from holders).

However, I think if we do make a new coin we should shoot for Polo instead of Bittrex this time. They have significantly more volume anyway (1,634.47 BTC vs. 14,674.76 BTC 24hr volume). I actually have some ideas of Polo specific implementations that might help us get listed.

It would take some work and time to swap into a new coin, but I think we could definately pull it off (especially if we can find people willing to form a team with me and pitch in on the workload).


hero member
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So the removal notice is gone. Looks like we may have made it off the chopping block Smiley.

How do you guys want to proceed?
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
Thanks for update, dev.

Thinking about swap...
 - with new reward scheme we will kinda have new coin anyway (we can call it SWING EVOLVED [SWEVO] Grin
 - people like new coins, both miners and stakers: they can get nice market share quite cheeply, also new start is always exciting
 - some people swap, some don't, some swap only part: it can drive price of "old" Swing up as well (swaped coins are burned = lower supply)
    (technically "old" swing would be kept with that rounding problem, so maybe most would swap, but some coins wouldn't be swaped anyway (lost wallets etc.)
 - with new coin (and swap) we don't have to deal with soft/hard fork
 - new coin = new people = bigger trading => Bittrex might also like that :-)

What you guys think?

I actually think there are a lot of pros to starting a new coin as well. New coins are significantly easier to work with than old coins, as well as more popular. Plus it gives us more flexibility on how we want to approach the market. I actually have a few market stimulus / distribution ideas that would require starting fresh, so we could consider taking advantage of that (along with other ideas from holders).

However, I think if we do make a new coin we should shoot for Polo instead of Bittrex this time. They have significantly more volume anyway (1,634.47 BTC vs. 14,674.76 BTC 24hr volume). I actually have some ideas of Polo specific implementations that might help us get listed.

It would take some work and time to swap into a new coin, but I think we could definately pull it off (especially if we can find people willing to form a team with me and pitch in on the workload).

I invite you all to trade our coin.
I did a little shopping Wink

Nice buys!! I'm honestly jealous haha. You got all the cheap coins  Grin
legendary
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I invite you all to trade our coin.
I did a little shopping Wink
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