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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 10, 2021, 07:44:27 AM

Dhoni may be a better captain when compared to Kohli, but I don't think that he is among the best. During the last year's IPL, he insisted on including players such as Kedar Jadhav in the squad, which resulted in many losses for the CSK, in matches which they could have otherwise won easily. He was one of the best 5 years back, but not now.

MSD not among the best? Lol. This guy smartly transformed the Cricket structure in India through his tactical brilliance. He was already proclaimed as a legend in the Cricketing world long back when India won the World Cup.

No captain is perfect. He is human. Their performance last year was abysmal indeed, but look how they bounced back this year. The CSK management could have replaced like him like what SRH did to Warner, but they chose to trust him and look what happened.

Check my post again. I was saying that he was one of the best five years back. But nowadays, his tactics are not that good. If he was that good, then why CSK was in such pathetic position during last year's IPL? And let's not forget the fact that Dhoni was directly responsible for some of CSK's losses last year. In many of the matches where CSK was chasing the targets, the combination of Dhoni and Kedar Jadhav slowed down the chase and made sure that CSK loses the match.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 10, 2021, 07:44:27 AM

Dhoni may be a better captain when compared to Kohli, but I don't think that he is among the best. During the last year's IPL, he insisted on including players such as Kedar Jadhav in the squad, which resulted in many losses for the CSK, in matches which they could have otherwise won easily. He was one of the best 5 years back, but not now.

MSD not among the best? Lol. This guy smartly transformed the Cricket structure in India through his tactical brilliance. He was already proclaimed as a legend in the Cricketing world long back when India won the World Cup.

No captain is perfect. He is human. Their performance last year was abysmal indeed, but look how they bounced back this year. The CSK management could have replaced like him like what SRH did to Warner, but they chose to trust him and look what happened.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 11, 2021, 05:56:07 AM

So basically BCCI has unofficially divided Indian team into two parts. One a Test side, which will be playing the test world cup in August and the other team which will be playing the Srilanka series in July. This means IPL might happen in June but where??

From what I heard, the BCCI is planning to conduct the remainder of the IPL sometime in September, just before the T20 World Cup. The BCCI bosses (at least some of them) believe that it may still be possible to stage the remaining 31 matches in India (although Ganguly is against this idea). Can the situation change a lot in 2-3 months? I don't think so. And they are also trying their best to conduct the T20 World Cup in India, which is a stupid idea.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 10, 2021, 01:39:10 PM

Here you go... BCCI again scheduling another bilateral series with Sri Lanka.

Interesting thing to notice is they are sending only White ball specialist players as Virat and his test team would be in England hence 2 different team set up (good for work load management as well). Rahul Dravid is also traveling with them.

India to tour Sri Lanka in July for six white-ball games

So basically BCCI has unofficially divided Indian team into two parts. One a Test side, which will be playing the test world cup in August and the other team which will be playing the Srilanka series in July. This means IPL might happen in June but where??

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Quote from: ene1980 on May 10, 2021, 05:57:32 PM

So will they be named as India or India A that is touring Sri Lanka. We are aware that they have more than enough talents and are they scheduling T20 and ODI which i think is unnecessary, if they are planning to give more exposure to the young players before the T20 world cup then they need to schedule only T20.
The bowling department might be depleted as all the best bowlers will be in England but who knows they might be introducing new talents. Grin

They can't name the team as India A, because this tour was due as per the Future Tours Programme (FTP). Also, if you remember an Indian tour of Sri Lanka was scheduled for June 2020, but was cancelled due to the pandemic. This tour will most probably serve as the replacement. The test squad comprises of 20 players, plus another 4 reserves. So these 24 players will be unavailable for Sri Lanka. BTW, still there is no confirmation on the future of the T20 World Cup. The BCCI seems to be quite adamant that they want to host it in India.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on May 10, 2021, 01:46:53 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 10, 2021, 07:44:27 AM

Dhoni may be a better captain when compared to Kohli, but I don't think that he is among the best.

Anyone who understands and watches cricket for multiple decades will tell you that MS Dhoni is one of the best captains in the history of cricket. I would rank Clive Lloyd and Steve Waugh above anyone else because the way in which they dominated world cricket under their captaincy and under them they refuse to loose and that was their dominance. Under MS Dhoni India learned to win series abroad and dominate oppositions with tactical moves which even surprises the opposition and i would rank him along with Ricky Ponting and Hansie Cronje.

If you think that he is not the best in the history of world cricket, i would like to hear about your list whom you think are better than him.

I won't compare MSD with any other captains to be honest because the conditions were not same when we are talking about captaining at different time periods but I would say MSD is one among the top 5 of all the great/best captains in cricket history. And he did managed to win all the 3 trophies of ICC who never did before but the main thing about MSD is the players were not the world's best players when he did that which is the reason why we call MSD is a tactician.

Virat is having great records too as captain for team India but he is completely different from MSD and he is kind of aggressive while MSD wants to win the matches at the last ball. Cheesy

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 10, 2021, 01:39:10 PM

Here you go... BCCI again scheduling another bilateral series with Sri Lanka.

Interesting thing to notice is they are sending only White ball specialist players as Virat and his test team would be in England hence 2 different team set up (good for work load management as well). Rahul Dravid is also traveling with them.

So will they be named as India or India A that is touring Sri Lanka. We are aware that they have more than enough talents and are they scheduling T20 and ODI which i think is unnecessary, if they are planning to give more exposure to the young players before the T20 world cup then they need to schedule only T20.
The bowling department might be depleted as all the best bowlers will be in England but who knows they might be introducing new talents. Grin

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 10, 2021, 01:39:10 PM

Here you go... BCCI again scheduling another bilateral series with Sri Lanka.

Interesting thing to notice is they are sending only White ball specialist players as Virat and his test team would be in England hence 2 different team set up (good for work load management as well). Rahul Dravid is also traveling with them.

India to tour Sri Lanka in July for six white-ball games

Who doesnt like to train their team and make money at the same time? BCCI definitely does. Its a great way to give some young up and coming players a chance and some International cricket exposure.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 10, 2021, 07:44:27 AM

Dhoni may be a better captain when compared to Kohli, but I don't think that he is among the best.

Anyone who understands and watches cricket for multiple decades will tell you that MS Dhoni is one of the best captains in the history of cricket. I would rank Clive Lloyd and Steve Waugh above anyone else because the way in which they dominated world cricket under their captaincy and under them they refuse to loose and that was their dominance. Under MS Dhoni India learned to win series abroad and dominate oppositions with tactical moves which even surprises the opposition and i would rank him along with Ricky Ponting and Hansie Cronje.

If you think that he is not the best in the history of world cricket, i would like to hear about your list whom you think are better than him.

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Here you go... BCCI again scheduling another bilateral series with Sri Lanka.

Interesting thing to notice is they are sending only White ball specialist players as Virat and his test team would be in England hence 2 different team set up (good for work load management as well). Rahul Dravid is also traveling with them.

India to tour Sri Lanka in July for six white-ball games

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 10, 2021, 12:13:11 PM

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Dhoni was part of the CSK team which selected the players during auctions. Despite widespread criticism that the team is full of 35 plus players, he took no additional step to include fresh blood. There were no replacement for players who became unavailable. When Suresh Raina pulled out (due to some issues with the CSK management), the replacement for him was not available. Even this time, CSK went for players such as Robin Uthappa, who belongs to the 35 plus category.

Not sure whether Dhoni has any say in the auction process when selecting the players, the team management who spends the money and the coaching members will take care of the team selection as far as i know. This time around they rectified all their issues and they were having one of the best seasons with new additions in the team and i was expecting them to dominate this years IPL.

Quote from: romero121 on May 10, 2021, 12:30:05 PM

Dhoni is the coolest in all situation. Along with this he have a winning luck with him. This is the reason why we can see more power performance from Chennai and at unexpected situations changing the entire match. Last year this was missing, but the team was criticised for its 35+ player list. In one of the season he played for Pune, by that time he took the team into playoff. So, more than performance he is a lucky player.

I will not call it luck if he is able to take Pune to the play off, from what i have seen he has a much deeper understanding of the game and his intuitions usually works in crucial situations and you can call it luck but i call it his skill set.

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If you remember the Chennai team last year there was no one available for selection other than including Kedar Jadhav, the team did not give any replacement players either and Shane Watson was struggling throughout the tournament and the only option was to include an overseas player and there are limits for that as well and either they had to include Murali Vijay which is not another replacement in the T20 format.

Dhoni can only perform according to the team you get to lead and if you are getting a worse team you cannot perform well above his teams capabilities.

Dhoni was part of the CSK team which selected the players during auctions. Despite widespread criticism that the team is full of 35 plus players, he took no additional step to include fresh blood. There were no replacement for players who became unavailable. When Suresh Raina pulled out (due to some issues with the CSK management), the replacement for him was not available. Even this time, CSK went for players such as Robin Uthappa, who belongs to the 35 plus category.

Dhoni is the coolest in all situation. Along with this he have a winning luck with him. This is the reason why we can see more power performance from Chennai and at unexpected situations changing the entire match. Last year this was missing, but the team was criticised for its 35+ player list. In one of the season he played for Pune, by that time he took the team into playoff. So, more than performance he is a lucky player.

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If you remember the Chennai team last year there was no one available for selection other than including Kedar Jadhav, the team did not give any replacement players either and Shane Watson was struggling throughout the tournament and the only option was to include an overseas player and there are limits for that as well and either they had to include Murali Vijay which is not another replacement in the T20 format.

Dhoni can only perform according to the team you get to lead and if you are getting a worse team you cannot perform well above his teams capabilities.

Dhoni was part of the CSK team which selected the players during auctions. Despite widespread criticism that the team is full of 35 plus players, he took no additional step to include fresh blood. There were no replacement for players who became unavailable. When Suresh Raina pulled out (due to some issues with the CSK management), the replacement for him was not available. Even this time, CSK went for players such as Robin Uthappa, who belongs to the 35 plus category.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 10, 2021, 07:44:27 AM

Dhoni may be a better captain when compared to Kohli, but I don't think that he is among the best. During the last year's IPL, he insisted on including players such as Kedar Jadhav in the squad, which resulted in many losses for the CSK, in matches which they could have otherwise won easily.

If you remember the Chennai team last year there was no one available for selection other than including Kedar Jadhav, the team did not give any replacement players either and Shane Watson was struggling throughout the tournament and the only option was to include an overseas player and there are limits for that as well and either they had to include Murali Vijay which is not another replacement in the T20 format.

Dhoni can only perform according to the team you get to lead and if you are getting a worse team you cannot perform well above his teams capabilities.

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I will choose Dhoni as a captain in any situation because he always finds a way to win matches and in the last season they had the worst team and yet the team was able to lift themselves in the later part of the tournament after the knockout stage defeating top teams and Mumbai is always a much better team and anyone can become the best captain with a good win percentage with a team like Mumbai who has dominating bowlers and a blend of local talents who could take on any bowler.

Dhoni may be a better captain when compared to Kohli, but I don't think that he is among the best. During the last year's IPL, he insisted on including players such as Kedar Jadhav in the squad, which resulted in many losses for the CSK, in matches which they could have otherwise won easily. He was one of the best 5 years back, but not now. But then again, I have to say that he is miles ahead of Kohli. Nowadays Kohli seems to be blind and unable of rational thinking due to arrogance.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 10, 2021, 06:22:57 AM

Virat Kohli is a very good player, but not a good captain. I would rather agree with Cricinfo's choice of Kieron Pollard. His win percentage in matches which he captained Mumbai Indians is quite high. MS Dhoni hasn't performed very well as a player in IPL 2021, but I would still rate him as one of the best captains. Steve Smith may be another option, but right now I can't consider too many other players for that role. As far as I am concerned, it has to be either Pollard or Dhoni.

I will choose Dhoni as a captain in any situation because he always finds a way to win matches and in the last season they had the worst team and yet the team was able to lift themselves in the later part of the tournament after the knockout stage defeating top teams and Mumbai is always a much better team and anyone can become the best captain with a good win percentage with a team like Mumbai who has dominating bowlers and a blend of local talents who could take on any bowler.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 10, 2021, 06:08:38 AM

Considering Sanju's consistency i won't keep him even in the 2nd team lol and if some one say that Virat should be captain of IPL team or when playing in the ICC tournament, well just stop talking to that person for good. Grin

Virat Kohli is a very good player, but not a good captain. I would rather agree with Cricinfo's choice of Kieron Pollard. His win percentage in matches which he captained Mumbai Indians is quite high. MS Dhoni hasn't performed very well as a player in IPL 2021, but I would still rate him as one of the best captains. Steve Smith may be another option, but right now I can't consider too many other players for that role. As far as I am concerned, it has to be either Pollard or Dhoni.

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I would have picked KL Rahul in the place of Shikar Dawan or Prithvi Shaw. Also, Kohli is for skipper.
What are your choices?

Shikar Dawan played really well this season and scored some match winning innings and so does Prithvi Shaw as he was in great touch in the IPL as he is continuing his great form from the Vijay Hazare Trophy. If you want to include Virat Kohli as the captain which i never had an opinion that he is the best captain as he never perform as a captain when things are not going in his way i would replace Sanju Samson as the wicket keeper because ABD can be the wicket keeper and hence replace him with Virat Kohli .

Considering Sanju's consistency i won't keep him even in the 2nd team lol and if some one say that Virat should be captain of IPL team or when playing in the ICC tournament, well just stop talking to that person for good. Grin

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on May 10, 2021, 05:01:47 AM

Samson is a very good player, but the problem is that he can't maintain the continuity of his performance. If he performs brilliantly in one match, he will be out for very few runs in the next few matches. I think KL Rahul and Rishab pant is a more stable player than Samson.

At this point there is no person more suitable to the role of wicketkeeper batsman than Rishabh Pant. He has performed exceptionally in international cricket, and again in the IPL. KL Rahul should have been the second choice and I don't know how Samson managed to get selected.

BTW, there is confirmation from Sourav Ganguly that the remainder of the IPL can't be staged in India. But at this point, he is refusing to give his opinion on the future of the T20 World Cup, and about which country would possibly host both the T20 World Cup and the remainder of the IPL.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 09, 2021, 11:15:24 PM

^^^^ I will not prefer Samson as the keeper. He is a good player, but consistency is not there. Also, his team coordination is very poor, so when most of the time he scores a 50 or a 100, his team loses. For me, Rishabh Pant is the first choice without any doubt. Also, I would rather prefer KL Rahul, Quinton de Kock or AB de Villiers ahead of Samson. Jonny Bairstow is another good option. The selection of Samson doesn't make any sense.

Samson is a very good player, but the problem is that he can't maintain the continuity of his performance. If he performs brilliantly in one match, he will be out for very few runs in the next few matches. I think KL Rahul and Rishab pant is a more stable player than Samson.

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