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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 17, 2021, 05:44:00 PM

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Complete schedule of T-20 WC

@Royse777 Heads up!! We do have exact 2 months so plenty of time for WC pool. Next month seems right time to create the pool, you're not active in cricketing thread nowadays so let us know if you're managing new pool for this.

I will be taking care of everything one time :-D
Thanks for the heads-up.

Yeah, lately not going much with cricket in my life. Kinda busy with others stuffs like campaign management and my regular profession.

Its alright, take your time we have enough time for both tournament IPL -T-20 WC.

Btw you missed the fair amount of wonderful matches. Gabba drama (don't remember if you are here then), English tour of India. Then Kiwis kicked Indians down at the WTC finals and recently exciting display of Test cricket in the Lord's. Hope you were at least checking the scorecard.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on August 17, 2021, 11:27:09 AM

Namibia is at 19th position in men's T20I ream rankings. I don't have any idea about Namibian cricket players as they aren't popular and haven't played matches with top ranking teams. David Wiese is an experienced player in this format. But I think that he won't be able to bring much changes in their overall team performance.

I don't know why their ranking is so low, but I consider them as one of the strongest associate nations. They haven't played a lot of matches lately, and that may be the reason why their ranking is low. I still remember the match between Namibia and England in 2003 world cup. At one point, Namibia was ahead in the D/L par score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7QFoFvb7ac

Their performance declined after the ICC imposed funding cuts, but recovered after Shashank Manohar became the ICC chairman and undid the changes made by Srinivasan/Pawar. David Wiese is a big name in T20 cricket and he will bring a lot of experience to the current Namibian squad.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 17, 2021, 09:22:04 AM

Complete schedule of T-20 WC

@Royse777 Heads up!! We do have exact 2 months so plenty of time for WC pool. Next month seems right time to create the pool, you're not active in cricketing thread nowadays so let us know if you're managing new pool for this.

I will be taking care of everything one time :-D
Thanks for the heads-up.

Yeah, lately not going much with cricket in my life. Kinda busy with others stuffs like campaign management and my regular profession.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 17, 2021, 12:54:48 AM

There is an interesting piece of news related to the T20 World Cup. Former South African international David Wiese will be representing the Namibian national side, as his father was born there. ~~
Normally I don't support non-citizens representing a country. But in this case it is OK, since his father is Namibian, and the remaining members of the team are citizens. One of the teams that is taking part in the tournament is entirely comprised of non-citizens (Oman).

Namibia is at 19th position in men's T20I ream rankings. I don't have any idea about Namibian cricket players as they aren't popular and haven't played matches with top ranking teams. David Wiese is an experienced player in this format. But I think that he won't be able to bring much changes in their overall team performance.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on August 17, 2021, 08:46:12 AM

The Big final for KPL 2021 is about to start in less than 30 minutes. These are the two best teams of the tournament and meeting in the final. They have previously meet in the pool matches and in the Qualifier 1 and both matches were a thriller. ~
Who will win this Final , SHAHID AFRIDI or MUHAMMAD HAFEEZ ?

Maybe Muzaffarabad Tigers (Mohammad Hafeez team) will win this match. Rawalakot Hawks has given a target of 170 runs. And Muzaffarabad Tigers has started their innings perfectly. BTW, KPL started a few days ago and it's ending very quickly! It is one of the shortest T20 league I have ever seen.

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Complete schedule of T-20 WC

@Royse777 Heads up!! We do have exact 2 months so plenty of time for WC pool. Next month seems right time to create the pool, you're not active in cricketing thread nowadays so let us know if you're managing new pool for this.

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The ICC has released the schedule for T20 World Cup, after a lot of delay. The preliminary phase will start on 17th October, when hosts Oman will face Papua New Guinea at the Oman Cricket Academy Ground. For India, the first match is against Pakistan on 24th October. They will face New Zealand on 31st October and Afghanistan on 3rd November. The participation of Afghanistan is in doubt BTW, due to the civil unrest in that country. I guess if they are unable to participate, then the UAE may replace them.

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The Big final for KPL 2021 is about to start in less than 30 minutes. These are the two best teams of the tournament and meeting in the final. They have previously meet in the pool matches and in the Qualifier 1 and both matches were a thriller.

Who will win this Final , SHAHID AFRIDI or MUHAMMAD HAFEEZ ?

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There is an interesting piece of news related to the T20 World Cup. Former South African international David Wiese will be representing the Namibian national side, as his father was born there.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/former-south-africa-allrounder-david-wiese-to-debut-for-namibia-at-2021-t20-world-cup-1273573

Normally I don't support non-citizens representing a country. But in this case it is OK, since his father is Namibian, and the remaining members of the team are citizens. One of the teams that is taking part in the tournament is entirely comprised of non-citizens (Oman).

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 13, 2021, 08:17:14 PM

It does not matter in the initial stages. Such tournaments are created to engage young children's first and then the youth. More such tournaments need to be organized in order to create awareness of the game. ICC needs to a lot more than organise such tournaments they need to penetrate at the school level and invest more money.

Native children won't play a sport, if they notice that only foreigners are taking part. And now coming to the ICC, changing the eligibility criteria was their quick fix solution to whitewash the decline of cricket in the European countries. As long as the natives are not playing cricket, the governments will not gve any recognition to the sport and will not allocate any funds for its development. If cricket was an Olympic sport, then it would not matter. But here in this case cricket is not even an Olympic sport (thanks to sabotage by the ICC a decade ago).

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 13, 2021, 05:33:05 AM

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I agree with you. European countries may be hiring players or players from other countries are forming their teams with giving the citizenship of their own country, but still, they continue to play cricket. Gradually they will be able to develop experienced players in their own country when cricket becomes popular in their country. This requires time.

No one is giving citizenship to anyone. Cricket is the only sport that allows a national team without any citizens. For example, we have teams like UAE and Singapore, where none of the players are citizens of these countries. Same is the case with European countries. Anyone who arrives in France or Germany on a tourist visa can play matches for them. And this is happening right now. All of their players are citizens of India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka. And that means that cricket will always be considered as a foreign sports by natives of these countries.

It does not matter in the initial stages. Such tournaments are created to engage young children's first and then the youth. More such tournaments need to be organized in order to create awareness of the game. ICC needs to a lot more than organise such tournaments they need to penetrate at the school level and invest more money.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 11, 2021, 09:20:31 PM

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First of all, cricket is not an Olympic sport (at least until now). So that means that there will be no government support. On top of that, for almost two decades, the ICC actively hampered the development of cricket outside the pig-3 nations. When Jagmohan Dalmiya was the ICC president, he had initiated a very successful globalization program, which resulted in the spread of cricket to every nook and corner of the world. But Dalmiya was kicked out in 2000, and the power was seized by the Pawar/Srinivasan gang. After that cricket died out in these smaller nations. The situation changed only in 2015, when Srinivasan was kicked out by the newly elected NDA government in India.

I am not fully aware of these power struggles and all i know about these is from the cricket threads as i am least bothered to know about these underlining issues from other sources and do a detailed research Cheesy

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Suppose the ICC is supporting cricket and wants to popularize the game in countries that are not prominent, the problem is you will not find many interested in a new sport and it will take a long time even for anyone to take cricket as a career when they have other lucrative sporting events to choose.

With franchise cricket in full flow and paying well, this is the best time to promote the sport as the money is good and you can attract new players into the game.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 13, 2021, 05:33:05 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 13, 2021, 12:41:20 AM

I agree with you. European countries may be hiring players or players from other countries are forming their teams with giving the citizenship of their own country, but still, they continue to play cricket. Gradually they will be able to develop experienced players in their own country when cricket becomes popular in their country. This requires time.

No one is giving citizenship to anyone. Cricket is the only sport that allows a national team without any citizens. For example, we have teams like UAE and Singapore, where none of the players are citizens of these countries. Same is the case with European countries. Anyone who arrives in France or Germany on a tourist visa can play matches for them. And this is happening right now. All of their players are citizens of India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka. And that means that cricket will always be considered as a foreign sports by natives of these countries.

If that happens then it is definitely not good for cricket. I thought those players might have been given new citizenship of the country, then they would have been added to the national team. The ICC should make rules that a person cannot be included in the national team unless he is a citizen of the country. If they need, give the players of other countries the opportunity to play in the national team by giving them the citizenship of their own country.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 13, 2021, 12:41:20 AM

I agree with you. European countries may be hiring players or players from other countries are forming their teams with giving the citizenship of their own country, but still, they continue to play cricket. Gradually they will be able to develop experienced players in their own country when cricket becomes popular in their country. This requires time.

No one is giving citizenship to anyone. Cricket is the only sport that allows a national team without any citizens. For example, we have teams like UAE and Singapore, where none of the players are citizens of these countries. Same is the case with European countries. Anyone who arrives in France or Germany on a tourist visa can play matches for them. And this is happening right now. All of their players are citizens of India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka. And that means that cricket will always be considered as a foreign sports by natives of these countries.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 12, 2021, 06:59:49 PM

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 11, 2021, 04:41:39 PM

Even i was wonder on seeing the scoreboard that European countries are able to play cricket and only a few will be really interested in playing the game as many look to play Football, Baseball, Basketball, Tennis to build a career in sports and cricket is not that popular and hence not a high paying sporting event and since you clarified that the teams are formed with the help of Asian players, that says a lot about their preparation Grin

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First of all, cricket is not an Olympic sport (at least until now). So that means that there will be no government support. On top of that, for almost two decades, the ICC actively hampered the development of cricket outside the pig-3 nations. When Jagmohan Dalmiya was the ICC president, he had initiated a very successful globalization program, which resulted in the spread of cricket to every nook and corner of the world. But Dalmiya was kicked out in 2000, and the power was seized by the Pawar/Srinivasan gang. After that cricket died out in these smaller nations. The situation changed only in 2015, when Srinivasan was kicked out by the newly elected NDA government in India.

I am happy that some European countries are trying to play cricket and you never know when this initiative might get a response. You cannot expect them to play this game without the help of some Asian players. More of such tournaments should be organised in these countries and slowly it will start to trend in the due course of time.

I agree with you. European countries may be hiring players or players from other countries are forming their teams with giving the citizenship of their own country, but still, they continue to play cricket. Gradually they will be able to develop experienced players in their own country when cricket becomes popular in their country. This requires time.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 12, 2021, 06:59:49 PM

I am happy that some European countries are trying to play cricket and you never know when this initiative might get a response. You cannot expect them to play this game without the help of some Asian players. More of such tournaments should be organised in these countries and slowly it will start to trend in the due course of time.

I don't have an issue if they include a few naturalized citizens in their squad. But what they are doing is creating teams which doesn't even have a single citizen (either naturalized ones or those of non-immigrant background) in the playing XI. Obviously when they do this, the natives of that particular country will not show any interest in the sport. And these countries had teams with majority native players until 2010 or so, when the ICC changed the eligibility criteria. The native players just vanished as soon as the criteria was changed. You can include foreigners in franchise T20 teams. But how can you include 11 foreigners in the playing XI for national teams?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 11, 2021, 09:20:31 PM

Quote from: ene1980 on August 11, 2021, 04:41:39 PM

Even i was wonder on seeing the scoreboard that European countries are able to play cricket and only a few will be really interested in playing the game as many look to play Football, Baseball, Basketball, Tennis to build a career in sports and cricket is not that popular and hence not a high paying sporting event and since you clarified that the teams are formed with the help of Asian players, that says a lot about their preparation Grin

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First of all, cricket is not an Olympic sport (at least until now). So that means that there will be no government support. On top of that, for almost two decades, the ICC actively hampered the development of cricket outside the pig-3 nations. When Jagmohan Dalmiya was the ICC president, he had initiated a very successful globalization program, which resulted in the spread of cricket to every nook and corner of the world. But Dalmiya was kicked out in 2000, and the power was seized by the Pawar/Srinivasan gang. After that cricket died out in these smaller nations. The situation changed only in 2015, when Srinivasan was kicked out by the newly elected NDA government in India.

I am happy that some European countries are trying to play cricket and you never know when this initiative might get a response. You cannot expect them to play this game without the help of some Asian players. More of such tournaments should be organised in these countries and slowly it will start to trend in the due course of time.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 11, 2021, 04:41:39 PM

Even i was wonder on seeing the scoreboard that European countries are able to play cricket and only a few will be really interested in playing the game as many look to play Football, Baseball, Basketball, Tennis to build a career in sports and cricket is not that popular and hence not a high paying sporting event and since you clarified that the teams are formed with the help of Asian players, that says a lot about their preparation Grin

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First of all, cricket is not an Olympic sport (at least until now). So that means that there will be no government support. On top of that, for almost two decades, the ICC actively hampered the development of cricket outside the pig-3 nations. When Jagmohan Dalmiya was the ICC president, he had initiated a very successful globalization program, which resulted in the spread of cricket to every nook and corner of the world. But Dalmiya was kicked out in 2000, and the power was seized by the Pawar/Srinivasan gang. After that cricket died out in these smaller nations. The situation changed only in 2015, when Srinivasan was kicked out by the newly elected NDA government in India.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 11, 2021, 12:18:28 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on August 11, 2021, 12:11:42 PM

I agree. Honestly, I am not the biggest fan of Ravi myself, but he did deliver on most occasions which is why I don't really get the crazy hate towards him by a section of the Cricket community.

The BCCI might be corrupt, but they aren't dumb. They allowed Ravi and Kohli to retain their positions since they almost always delivered great results excluding the big tournaments(World Cup etc).

India won the matches, because the players performed well. I don't know what role was played by Shastri here. Most of the aspects, such as training and team selection was decided by Kohli. Anyway, let's discuss about the future. What are the chances that Rahul Dravid will be appointed as the coach of the national team? Or the BCCI can go for a foreign coach. But historically the team members (at least the senior members) haven't reacted positively to foreign coaches, especially of they are strict with the training regimen.

In my opinion, until Ravi Shastri retires from coaching, Rahul Dravid will not become the coach of the India A team, the same goes for Kohli. Both are fit and have not given any sign of stepping down from their position. After the T20 Worldcup if Ravi Shastri decides to step down then obviously BCCI will appoint Dravid. Why would BCCI need an International coach? when they already have one.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 11, 2021, 02:46:20 AM

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Oh please.. I watched 5 minutes or so from this series and it was a complete sham. Fancode just want a few "international" matches for their subscribers. So they dressed up a few Indians and Pakistanis in German and Norwegian jerseys. None of these players had any connection with Germany/Norway and not a single player had the citizenship of these countries and I couldn't find anyone among the spectators. This sort of joke doesn't exist with football or any of the other sports, because they don't allow foreigners to represent national teams.

Even i was wonder on seeing the scoreboard that European countries are able to play cricket and only a few will be really interested in playing the game as many look to play Football, Baseball, Basketball, Tennis to build a career in sports and cricket is not that popular and hence not a high paying sporting event and since you clarified that the teams are formed with the help of Asian players, that says a lot about their preparation Grin

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 11, 2021, 12:11:42 PM

I agree. Honestly, I am not the biggest fan of Ravi myself, but he did deliver on most occasions which is why I don't really get the crazy hate towards him by a section of the Cricket community.

The BCCI might be corrupt, but they aren't dumb. They allowed Ravi and Kohli to retain their positions since they almost always delivered great results excluding the big tournaments(World Cup etc).

India won the matches, because the players performed well. I don't know what role was played by Shastri here. Most of the aspects, such as training and team selection was decided by Kohli. Anyway, let's discuss about the future. What are the chances that Rahul Dravid will be appointed as the coach of the national team? Or the BCCI can go for a foreign coach. But historically the team members (at least the senior members) haven't reacted positively to foreign coaches, especially of they are strict with the training regimen.

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