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What a game, and we still don't have winner lol. is there super over or something?

Oh well, yeah we have.. damn that was a close one, full points to Shami
Lol really and the way RoHITMAN sharma played is absolutely great. It's not that easy to hit two sixes on last two balls in a super over. I think India would have been at great risk if it would have been any other player.
I really wished for NZ to win this match. They had every chance to win this match. Their feilding was excellent, batting was good especially Williamson. They needed only 2 runs from 4 balls. Even posted a good 18 run target in super-over. But all their hopes were shattered by Shami and Rohit  Undecided I feel miserable for them.
The problem of New Zealand to fail close games continues, they left the world cup so close and then other tournaments which they should have won in the past and today's game which i thought New Zealand bowled really well to restrict India but then all the hope ended in the last 4 balls and then the usual disappointing super over as New Zealand always fail to win most of the time Undecided.
I think they are the new chokers we have on international platforms. They have a good team with a great captain. But most of the time you would see them choking at big platforms. I hope that they become a better team.
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I agree. Southee is not known for his change of pace or accuracy. But I wouldn't blame the decision to give him the opportunity to bowl, because he was the most experienced bowler out there. 
Today Ish Sodhi bowled really well and with the way the Indian players handled they would have taken the risk and given the over to him rather than Tim Southee as he lacks many variation and if someone is planning to go after him he always go for runs.

Most of the teams outside the big 3 are facing issues due to limited player pool, and in case of New Zealand this has reached a stage of high severity. Despite additions from countries such as South Africa (Neil Wagner, Colin de Grandhomme.etc), they are still unable to reduce the over-dependence on some of their bowlers.
Earlier India too had the issue with world class fast bowlers but now things changed for good and Pakistan who used to produce world class fast bowlers are struggling now and that is the case rest of the teams.
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Unlike India, New Zealand doesn't have any world class spinners in their playing XI. Mitchell Santner have been taking wickets regularly, but he is very inconsistent and he concedes a lot of runs in crucial situations. Also, the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spinners (especially against those who don't turn the ball much, such as Santner). James Neesham would have been a good choice.... But I haven't seen in action for many months now.
Yeah i understand they do not have a world class spinner but if someone who could mix the pace and the length quite often then it is not that easy to score when you are forced to hit the ball against a slow bowler in my opinion, if he is bowling at a full length without any variation then it will be easier for the batsman but if you can mix them well then you will miss hit a couple of times and the game is done.

I agree. Southee is not known for his change of pace or accuracy. But I wouldn't blame the decision to give him the opportunity to bowl, because he was the most experienced bowler out there. Most of the teams outside the big 3 are facing issues due to limited player pool, and in case of New Zealand this has reached a stage of high severity. Despite additions from countries such as South Africa (Neil Wagner, Colin de Grandhomme.etc), they are still unable to reduce the over-dependence on some of their bowlers.
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Unlike India, New Zealand doesn't have any world class spinners in their playing XI. Mitchell Santner have been taking wickets regularly, but he is very inconsistent and he concedes a lot of runs in crucial situations. Also, the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spinners (especially against those who don't turn the ball much, such as Santner). James Neesham would have been a good choice.... But I haven't seen in action for many months now.
Yeah i understand they do not have a world class spinner but if someone who could mix the pace and the length quite often then it is not that easy to score when you are forced to hit the ball against a slow bowler in my opinion, if he is bowling at a full length without any variation then it will be easier for the batsman but if you can mix them well then you will miss hit a couple of times and the game is done.
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Tim Southee should have never bowled those half volleys, because Rohit Sharma never misses such deliveries. This is where I feel that New Zealand is missing their strike bowler (Trent Boult). If Boult was on their side, then they could have easily won this match. Can you imagine a side losing the super over, after scoring a massive 17 runs batting first?
These are hypothetical situation as Trent Boult is injured and Tim Southee is their strike bowler, i think they will have a hard time if spinners will ball the super over who is able to mix the deliveries because Tim Southee is known to give away too many looking at his economy in T20, India won the series and hopefully they will give the bench players some opportunities to perform.

Unlike India, New Zealand doesn't have any world class spinners in their playing XI. Mitchell Santner have been taking wickets regularly, but he is very inconsistent and he concedes a lot of runs in crucial situations. Also, the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spinners (especially against those who don't turn the ball much, such as Santner). James Neesham would have been a good choice.... But I haven't seen in action for many months now.
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Tim Southee should have never bowled those half volleys, because Rohit Sharma never misses such deliveries. This is where I feel that New Zealand is missing their strike bowler (Trent Boult). If Boult was on their side, then they could have easily won this match. Can you imagine a side losing the super over, after scoring a massive 17 runs batting first?
These are hypothetical situation as Trent Boult is injured and Tim Southee is their strike bowler, i think they will have a hard time if spinners will ball the super over who is able to mix the deliveries because Tim Southee is known to give away too many looking at his economy in T20, India won the series and hopefully they will give the bench players some opportunities to perform.
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Well..well.. I would consider New Zealand as the real winners of the world cup. England won as a result of the wrong decisions by the umpire (Kumar Dharmasena). So you can't really say that they lost the close match then. But losing a super over, that too after scoring 17 runs is a bit difficult to digest. They were without their best bowlers. But all they had to do was to restrict India to less than 10 runs from 2 balls.
It is unfortunate about the wrong decision but we had seen many bogus decisions in the past that affected the match but in that match everything was scrutinized because it was a costly miss by the umpire even with all the advantage with the current umpires with the help of technology and the captain could have questioned and challenged the decision during the event even though he could have been fined but that did not happen, these are bad timings and they are really unlucky in these close contest and that is the truth.
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I really wished for NZ to win this match. They had every chance to win this match. Their feilding was excellent, batting was good especially Williamson. They needed only 2 runs from 4 balls. Even posted a good 18 run target in super-over. But all their hopes were shattered by Shami and Rohit  Undecided I feel miserable for them.
The problem of New Zealand to fail close games continues, they left the world cup so close and then other tournaments which they should have won in the past and today's game which i thought New Zealand bowled really well to restrict India but then all the hope ended in the last 4 balls and then the usual disappointing super over as New Zealand always fail to win most of the time Undecided.

Well..well.. I would consider New Zealand as the real winners of the world cup. England won as a result of the wrong decisions by the umpire (Kumar Dharmasena). So you can't really say that they lost the close match then. But losing a super over, that too after scoring 17 runs is a bit difficult to digest. They were without their best bowlers. But all they had to do was to restrict India to less than 10 runs from 2 balls.
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I really wished for NZ to win this match. They had every chance to win this match. Their feilding was excellent, batting was good especially Williamson. They needed only 2 runs from 4 balls. Even posted a good 18 run target in super-over. But all their hopes were shattered by Shami and Rohit  Undecided I feel miserable for them.
The problem of New Zealand to fail close games continues, they left the world cup so close and then other tournaments which they should have won in the past and today's game which i thought New Zealand bowled really well to restrict India but then all the hope ended in the last 4 balls and then the usual disappointing super over as New Zealand always fail to win most of the time Undecided.
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Southee is their best bowler but still Rohit's sixes were too much to handle.
Southee gave everything but Rohit was too good on those last two balls.

Tim Southee should have never bowled those half volleys, because Rohit Sharma never misses such deliveries. This is where I feel that New Zealand is missing their strike bowler (Trent Boult). If Boult was on their side, then they could have easily won this match. Can you imagine a side losing the super over, after scoring a massive 17 runs batting first?
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Southee is their best bowler but still Rohit's sixes were too much to handle.
Southee gave everything but Rohit was too good on those last two balls.

I managed to watch the match from the 7th or 8th over of New Zealand's innings. It was in New Zealand's side all the time untill Kane got caught in the 4th last ball of the last over. Still there were three balls to get only 2 runs to win but Shami really bowled some good balls or I would say New Zealand was too unlucky at the last ball?

Taylor had inside edge and ball broke the stump. It could be a ball to the keeper or a hit in the meaty section of the bat or even the ball could go in any direction and no one could stop them to score only one run!

Man! 2 runs from last 4 balls and New Zealand failed !!! Unbelievable.

In the super over the match was under control of kewis but again these last two balls only made the damage. How many more times New Zealand will lose a match in super over?

But it was a match too watch. Congratulations to both teams.
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I really wished for NZ to win this match. They had every chance to win this match. Their feilding was excellent, batting was good especially Williamson. They needed only 2 runs from 4 balls. Even posted a good 18 run target in super-over. But all their hopes were shattered by Shami and Rohit  Undecided I feel miserable for them.

Super overs have never worked for them since last year Tongue

Did a mistake by underestimating them because of their first 2 failures but today they proved to be strong due to one man Williamson and they did pose a big target even in the super over. Southee is their best bowler but still Rohit's sixes were too much to handle.
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I really wished for NZ to win this match. They had every chance to win this match. Their feilding was excellent, batting was good especially Williamson. They needed only 2 runs from 4 balls. Even posted a good 18 run target in super-over. But all their hopes were shattered by Shami and Rohit  Undecided I feel miserable for them.
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So proud of Shami. NZ needed 9 and got a six at the start. who would think they would lose the match only needing 2 runs from the last 4 balls. Those 2 wickets just changed a winning match into a tie and then Rohit's 2 sixes off the last 2 balls. It was a miracle win!
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Close win by India. Impressive batting by Rohit Sharma hitting 2 boundaries on last 2 balls.
This was a nerve wreching match to watch. Every T20s that goes to superover are super exciting. Fast Pace and Unpredictability is the beauty of T20 and superover just fits in the format.

Really very close match. Experience always comes handy in such situation. Rohit did a splendid job. Good comeback by Rohit. Well played team India.
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Close win by India. Impressive batting by Rohit Sharma hitting 2 boundaries on last 2 balls.
This was a nerve wreching match to watch. Every T20s that goes to superover are super exciting. Fast Pace and Unpredictability is the beauty of T20 and superover just fits in the format.
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Holy Cow...

What a game, and we still don't have winner lol. is there super over or something?

Oh well, yeah we have.. damn that was a close one, full points to Shami

Yes,a super over lol

And if the super over is tied, there will be another one Tongue

NZ must be terrified from their previous experience already. Never expected a tie but Williamson's wicket proved useful.

India won....Yay  Cool  Grin
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What a game, and we still don't have winner lol. is there super over or something?

Oh well, yeah we have.. damn that was a close one, full points to Shami
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Gone, the match is just over. Only 22 runs left and Williamson is still playing. I must say that he alone managed to get those crucial runs and get the first win for his team. No hope that India will bring back the match.

Dube is bad in bowling too and even Bumrah is going for runs.
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So happy to see Rohit back but Dube again proved to be a disappointment. Being new, he should be more careful and now have no expectations too from him. I feel they were 10-15 runs short as the ground is good for batting.

NZ are already at 88 and if they don't lose more wickets and play well, they can even get the required runs. That dropped catch of Jadeja costed 1 run so far. Williamson is the danger man left now.

NZ requires another 29 runs in 18 balls. Williamson is batting on 85 runs in 42 balls. If India could take his wicket now then they have got a chance to comeback in the game else NZ will win the match and Williamson will be the man of the match. Also most likely if he stays on the pitch he will also complete his century and make NZ win the match.
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