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Quote from: JSRAW on June 20, 2020, 10:42:03 AM

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Do you think boycotting Chinese products is possible in this globalisation era? Almost all of the electronics even if its a US or European brand, the make is in China. So I don't think this is not possible in this era. Once the current border conflict subsides, the cry for boycotting Chinese products will stop and the people will be back to using the Chinese products. So, once the border conflict subsides, there will be no problem with VIVO sponsoring IPL Tongue

Exactly!
To add more here, First get your own house in order, for that to happen India surely need shitload amount of reforms, manufacturing muscles and infrastructure. After that try this all boycott drama. Its very much possible in a long run but again we need to get our shit together.

Even in the long run, you can't boycott the Chinese products directly. Only thing we can do is improve the manufacturing industry by a major reform and be competitive with the Chinese manufacturers.
@FIFA worldcup, Boycott is one thing and closing the borders because of the fear of pandemic is another both are completely different.

See this is what the BCCI spokesperson told regarding the review of VIVO sponsorship, so I'm sure that once the border dispute subsides by the end of June. This would not be an issue.

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"When we are allowing Chinese companies to sell their products in India, whatever money they are taking from Indian consumer, they are paying part of it to the BCCI (as brand promotion) and the board is paying 42 per cent tax on that money to the Indian government. So, that is supporting India's cause and not China's,"

^ Lol but this made me laugh

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Quote from: akhjob on June 20, 2020, 10:33:18 AM

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Its open to speculate as far as "deals in jeopardy" boycott rhetoric is concern and can shift both ways as VIVO deal is not that big (approx 500ish crore). I think status quo is not a bad option till BCCI gets new sponsor.

There is a huge cry about boycotting the Chinese products and it is a 2,199 crore which is about 440 crore per year which is a huge sum of money and there are news coming out that BCCI will be reviewing all their sponsors and the decision will be taken next week regarding all these and that includes all the companies that have Chinese minority investment.

Do you think boycotting Chinese products is possible in this globalisation era? Almost all of the electronics even if its a US or European brand, the make is in China. So I don't think this is not possible in this era. Once the current border conflict subsides, the cry for boycotting Chinese products will stop and the people will be back to using the Chinese products. So, once the border conflict subsides, there will be no problem with VIVO sponsoring IPL Tongue

Well, two month before when china was locked down and Chinese were the first ones effected from corona virus, so people around the world decided to boycott Chinese products because of fear of covid-19, but later once the whole world is effected and Chinese to come out of this strongly, people are willing to buy the product of china because they are cheap as well as durable.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 19, 2020, 02:57:43 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2020, 11:22:50 AM

^^ Don't underestimate the greed of the BCCI. I am not ruling them out from the IPL event race, they are just looking for one positive news regarding pandemic after that they can do anything.

As far as T-20 is concern, ICC and CA doesn't seems interested at all.

I guess the T20 World Cup is out of the equation, after statements from the Cricket Australia chairman (Earl Eddings) and Ehsan Mani (ICC Board member). This may give an opportunity for the BCCI, but the situation in India is progressively getting worse. Yesterday we had close to 14K new infections and today we are all set to reach 15K mark. It is just disastrous.

Also, if IPL just in case may happen or not that in coming time it would be decided but also now new row that has come up is that sponsor of IPL is a Chinese company. In India with IPL continues to use this as a sponsor people may object and may not allow it to happen as sentiments of people out there has hurt them. So even they will now have the meeting on this and try to see what solution they can come up with on this now.

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Quote from: akhjob on June 20, 2020, 10:33:18 AM

~snip~
Do you think boycotting Chinese products is possible in this globalisation era? Almost all of the electronics even if its a US or European brand, the make is in China. So I don't think this is not possible in this era. Once the current border conflict subsides, the cry for boycotting Chinese products will stop and the people will be back to using the Chinese products. So, once the border conflict subsides, there will be no problem with VIVO sponsoring IPL Tongue

Exactly!
To add more here, First get your own house in order, for that to happen India surely need shitload amount of reforms, manufacturing muscles and infrastructure. After that try this all boycott drama. Its very much possible in a long run but again we need to get our shit together.

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Its open to speculate as far as "deals in jeopardy" boycott rhetoric is concern and can shift both ways as VIVO deal is not that big (approx 500ish crore). I think status quo is not a bad option till BCCI gets new sponsor.

There is a huge cry about boycotting the Chinese products and it is a 2,199 crore which is about 440 crore per year which is a huge sum of money and there are news coming out that BCCI will be reviewing all their sponsors and the decision will be taken next week regarding all these and that includes all the companies that have Chinese minority investment.

Do you think boycotting Chinese products is possible in this globalisation era? Almost all of the electronics even if its a US or European brand, the make is in China. So I don't think this is not possible in this era. Once the current border conflict subsides, the cry for boycotting Chinese products will stop and the people will be back to using the Chinese products. So, once the border conflict subsides, there will be no problem with VIVO sponsoring IPL Tongue

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 20, 2020, 07:32:03 AM

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Its open to speculate as far as "deals in jeopardy" boycott rhetoric is concern and can shift both ways as VIVO deal is not that big (approx 500ish crore). I think status quo is not a bad option till BCCI gets new sponsor.

There is a huge cry about boycotting the Chinese products and it is a 2,199 crore which is about 440 crore per year which is a huge sum of money and there are news coming out that BCCI will be reviewing all their sponsors and the decision will be taken next week regarding all these and that includes all the companies that have Chinese minority investment.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2020, 11:22:50 AM

^^ Don't underestimate the greed of the BCCI. I am not ruling them out from the IPL event race, they are just looking for one positive news regarding pandemic after that they can do anything.

This is probably the final nail in the coffin guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.ndtv.com/ipl-2020/ipl-governing-council-to-review-sponsorship-deals-after-ladakh-face-off-2249196%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off

The border tensions don't look they will calm down anytime soon even though meetings are underway. With sponsorship deals in jeopardy, I don't see any chance for the IPL to resume this year. This year is horribly unlucky especially for the IPL.

Its open to speculate as far as "deals in jeopardy" boycott rhetoric is concern and can shift both ways as VIVO deal is not that big (approx 500ish crore). I think status quo is not a bad option till BCCI gets new sponsor.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 19, 2020, 02:57:43 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2020, 11:22:50 AM

^^ Don't underestimate the greed of the BCCI. I am not ruling them out from the IPL event race, they are just looking for one positive news regarding pandemic after that they can do anything.

As far as T-20 is concern, ICC and CA doesn't seems interested at all.

I guess the T20 World Cup is out of the equation, after statements from the Cricket Australia chairman (Earl Eddings) and Ehsan Mani (ICC Board member). This may give an opportunity for the BCCI, but the situation in India is progressively getting worse. Yesterday we had close to 14K new infections and today we are all set to reach 15K mark. It is just disastrous.

BCCI never backed down so the question of opportunity in conducting IPL is not applicable here. They have never said that they have canceled IPL 2020, they are only delaying it for a few months and when the time is right they will go for it.

I do not think it will be possible for them to conduct IPL now, considering the current virus situation in India. If the spread slows down by the fourth quarter then there is a chance.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2020, 11:22:50 AM

^^ Don't underestimate the greed of the BCCI. I am not ruling them out from the IPL event race, they are just looking for one positive news regarding pandemic after that they can do anything.

As far as T-20 is concern, ICC and CA doesn't seems interested at all.

I guess the T20 World Cup is out of the equation, after statements from the Cricket Australia chairman (Earl Eddings) and Ehsan Mani (ICC Board member). This may give an opportunity for the BCCI, but the situation in India is progressively getting worse. Yesterday we had close to 14K new infections and today we are all set to reach 15K mark. It is just disastrous.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2020, 11:22:50 AM

^^ Don't underestimate the greed of the BCCI. I am not ruling them out from the IPL event race, they are just looking for one positive news regarding pandemic after that they can do anything.

This is probably the final nail in the coffin guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.ndtv.com/ipl-2020/ipl-governing-council-to-review-sponsorship-deals-after-ladakh-face-off-2249196%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off

The border tensions don't look they will calm down anytime soon even though meetings are underway. With sponsorship deals in jeopardy, I don't see any chance for the IPL to resume this year. This year is horribly unlucky especially for the IPL.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2020, 11:22:50 AM

^^ Don't underestimate the greed of the BCCI. I am not ruling them out from the IPL event race, they are just looking for one positive news regarding pandemic after that they can do anything.

That's BCCI, you know. Nevertheless, there's no chance left for IPL to be held this year in India (I don't think it will take place on outside India as well). The current pandemic situation isn't looking in favor at all.

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^^ Don't underestimate the greed of the BCCI. I am not ruling them out from the IPL event race, they are just looking for one positive news regarding pandemic after that they can do anything.

As far as T-20 is concern, ICC and CA doesn't seems interested at all.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 18, 2020, 06:59:27 PM

If you look at the situation in both the countries, then the T20 World Cup could go ahead as the situation is far better than in India, if the BCCI is willing to push forward for the IPL even in a situation that is much worse than Australia and it all depends upon what the government decides. The ICC are yet to postponed the tournament as they are waiting for the things to be clear and with football and other sports coming back why no cricket without any audience and even the Australian minister was willing to allow audience in the stadium according to some reports i saw.

Check these out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29317301/t20-world-cup-unrealistic-unlikely-year-cricket-australia-chairman%3fplatform=amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/t20-world-cup-unlikely-to-take-place-this-year-ehsan-mani/amp_articleshow/76436651.cms

These are top board members. Majority of the fans including me are pretty confident that there is no hope left for IPL or the T-20 World Cup this year. This is the best case scenario currently.

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Quote from: onrise on June 19, 2020, 12:28:47 AM

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Looks like the BCCI is pushing ahead with hosting the IPL later this year in September - November which will put the T20 world cup in doubt. Not only that there are still several countries that have strict travel restictions in place which would make it hard for the world cup to go ahead. I thought it would as Australia has done well at containing the virus but like I said its winter here and now we are seeing an increase in cases daily, the worst since March.

BCCI cannot do this without approval of Government and situation is not good for them even most of experts peak of corona is still coming so I have doubt they will be able to have IPL this year because this could be very risky and can bring some serious damage to them even without crowd many players will not able to came here and join this all.

IPL in India does not look feasible for this year considering the current situation and other things which is going in the country. So only thing of it has to happen would be out of India and SL is an option . But only thing when and what will happen to T20 World Cup then . Will both happen or any 1 will happen or both will not happen this year are still questions on everyone mind.

Tentative date is September, I am not sure whether the situation will change by tha time . Starting September most Indian festivals will also start. People will come out to buy new things and the virus situation might get worst by that time.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on June 18, 2020, 06:07:45 PM

Quote from: vella85 on June 18, 2020, 06:03:26 PM

Looks like the BCCI is pushing ahead with hosting the IPL later this year in September - November which will put the T20 world cup in doubt. Not only that there are still several countries that have strict travel restictions in place which would make it hard for the world cup to go ahead. I thought it would as Australia has done well at containing the virus but like I said its winter here and now we are seeing an increase in cases daily, the worst since March.

BCCI cannot do this without approval of Government and situation is not good for them even most of experts peak of corona is still coming so I have doubt they will be able to have IPL this year because this could be very risky and can bring some serious damage to them even without crowd many players will not able to came here and join this all.

IPL in India does not look feasible for this year considering the current situation and other things which is going in the country. So only thing of it has to happen would be out of India and SL is an option . But only thing when and what will happen to T20 World Cup then . Will both happen or any 1 will happen or both will not happen this year are still questions on everyone mind.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on June 18, 2020, 10:36:02 PM

Not much into football, so I have not much idea but I know PL is big and return of PL means football is getting its life back. About this new format - I think once we will see one or two matches then things will start to be clear but for me, I still do not find it exciting but just a complex combination :-D

This..... Only one game as of now.

Quote from: JSRAW on June 17, 2020, 07:32:08 PM

Oh c'mon bro, don't be a party pooper Tongue

and don't tell me that you never fancy the idea of one batsman batting alone in any international cricket, just like gully cricket hahaha.

Its one-off exhibition event anyway and all the raised money going to charity.

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I hope England vs WI hope is still alive?

Yeah, Test series is ready to pop-up next month. Windies already arrived in the England and Both teams are busy in team practice etc.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 18, 2020, 08:10:26 AM

@Royse777 my head started to spin after reading so many rules hence I guess this league is not for me, but it’ll be interesting to see how the general public views it, and further it seems that they already have found a fan/viewer in @JSRAW. Lastly I’m excited for the Premier League to begin as I can’t wait for Manchester United vs Tottenham match because then I’ll finally get to see Pogba and Fernandes link together, and hopefully win my bet too that I have placed on Manchester United.

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Not much into football, so I have not much idea but I know PL is big and return of PL means football is getting its life back. About this new format - I think once we will see one or two matches then things will start to be clear but for me, I still do not find it exciting but just a complex combination :-D

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 18, 2020, 07:28:25 AM

And there is more bad news. Check this:

https://emergingcricket.com/news/cricket-scotland-matchup-with-australia-cancelled-due-to-covid-19/

It is confirmed that the T20I between Australia and Scotland is cancelled.

I hope England vs WI hope is still alive?

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Quote from: vella85 on June 18, 2020, 06:18:02 PM

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Yes I agree and that's what I think is the problem for all international sports right now, the travel between countries and states/cities. Even here in Australia there are restrictions on travel between states so even if the T20 world cup was to go ahead it would make it hard. I just think that we have to give both tournaments a miss this year and try for next year which hopefully the virus is under control by then.

If you look at the situation in both the countries, then the T20 World Cup could go ahead as the situation is far better than in India, if the BCCI is willing to push forward for the IPL even in a situation that is much worse than Australia and it all depends upon what the government decides. The ICC are yet to postponed the tournament as they are waiting for the things to be clear and with football and other sports coming back why no cricket without any audience and even the Australian minister was willing to allow audience in the stadium according to some reports i saw.

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Quote from: vella85 on June 18, 2020, 06:03:26 PM

Looks like the BCCI is pushing ahead with hosting the IPL later this year in September - November which will put the T20 world cup in doubt. Not only that there are still several countries that have strict travel restictions in place which would make it hard for the world cup to go ahead. I thought it would as Australia has done well at containing the virus but like I said its winter here and now we are seeing an increase in cases daily, the worst since March.

BCCI cannot do this without approval of Government and situation is not good for them even most of experts peak of corona is still coming so I have doubt they will be able to have IPL this year because this could be very risky and can bring some serious damage to them even without crowd many players will not able to came here and join this all.

Yes I agree and that's what I think is the problem for all international sports right now, the travel between countries and states/cities. Even here in Australia there are restrictions on travel between states so even if the T20 world cup was to go ahead it would make it hard. I just think that we have to give both tournaments a miss this year and try for next year which hopefully the virus is under control by then.

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Quote from: vella85 on June 18, 2020, 06:03:26 PM

Looks like the BCCI is pushing ahead with hosting the IPL later this year in September - November which will put the T20 world cup in doubt. Not only that there are still several countries that have strict travel restictions in place which would make it hard for the world cup to go ahead. I thought it would as Australia has done well at containing the virus but like I said its winter here and now we are seeing an increase in cases daily, the worst since March.

BCCI cannot do this without approval of Government and situation is not good for them even most of experts peak of corona is still coming so I have doubt they will be able to have IPL this year because this could be very risky and can bring some serious damage to them even without crowd many players will not able to came here and join this all.

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