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If the T20 world cup will be moved next year how they are going to manage to schedule everything and what about the series that were scheduled, will they move those series or abandon everything and continue with the fixture.

Every match, series or any circus will be moved automatically. let's say cricketing world think that year 2020 never came in the first place.

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On a lighter note.... Read between the lines Grin

I wish we could have a reboot button to start all over again and stop this shit virus from spreading. I am frustrated sitting inside my house for nearly 42 days now.

I have finished most of the Netflix and Prime series. If cricket could have been played I would have enjoyed the lockdown with out any frustration watching the IPL.

People who had welcomed 2020 on 31st Dec with large spending would be now looking back and thinking was it spend to see this day or so. 2020 has really being one of the forgetting years till now as it has made the world to standstill which has not happened till now for long. Also, it has killed millions of people all around the globe and not just due to positive cases but also some may die due to hunger, some may get heart attack if their businesses are being stuck and debt is rising etc. Such cases also account for this death whose numbers are not being accounted for.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 06, 2020, 03:14:56 PM

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 06, 2020, 01:01:14 PM

~snip~
If the T20 world cup will be moved next year how they are going to manage to schedule everything and what about the series that were scheduled, will they move those series or abandon everything and continue with the fixture.

Every match, series or any circus will be moved automatically. let's say cricketing world think that year 2020 never came in the first place.

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On a lighter note.... Read between the lines Grin

I wish we could have a reboot button to start all over again and stop this shit virus from spreading. I am frustrated sitting inside my house for nearly 42 days now.

I have finished most of the Netflix and Prime series. If cricket could have been played I would have enjoyed the lockdown with out any frustration watching the IPL.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 06, 2020, 03:14:56 PM

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 06, 2020, 01:01:14 PM

~snip~
If the T20 world cup will be moved next year how they are going to manage to schedule everything and what about the series that were scheduled, will they move those series or abandon everything and continue with the fixture.

Every match, series or any circus will be moved automatically. let's say cricketing world think that year 2020 never came in the first place.

----------

On a lighter note.... Read between the lines Grin

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 06, 2020, 01:01:14 PM

~snip~
If the T20 world cup will be moved next year how they are going to manage to schedule everything and what about the series that were scheduled, will they move those series or abandon everything and continue with the fixture.

Every match, series or any circus will be moved automatically. let's say cricketing world think that year 2020 never came in the first place.

----------

On a lighter note.... Read between the lines Grin

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on May 06, 2020, 09:37:24 AM

When this new format of tournament will start ? Will it be limited to England or international teams will participate too ?
As all the sports is on hold worldwide, how can this tournament be played when the world is suffering from covid-19 disease?

The tournament was supposed to start this year but due to the pandemic the launch is moved to 2021 as per their website and they have refunded all the tickets that were sold, the new date is not yet fixed and it is impossible to have a date for the tournament until the situation is controlled.

If the T20 world cup will be moved next year how they are going to manage to schedule everything and what about the series that were scheduled, will they move those series or abandon everything and continue with the fixture.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 05, 2020, 07:55:43 AM

Around 18-19 years ago... the ECB experimented with another format of cricket called "Power Cricket". This was probably before the T20 cricket established its hold. It was played for a shorter duration. I don't remember exactly, but I guess each innings composed of 12 overs. The major difference with this format was that on top of 4s and 6s, there were 3 new types of boundaries. Depending on the length of the sixer, 8 and 10 runs were given. 8 runs if the ball landed more than 20 meters beyond the boundary line and 10 runs if it landed 40 m back. 12 runs were awarded, when the ball hit the roof (this format was played in stadiums with retractable roof).

I think you are talking about Cricket Max which is invented by former New Zealand cricketer Martin Crowe and it was not ECB who developed that but it was New Zealand, i still remember getting confused and Sachin playing one match when the ball is hit at a certain area you will get double the runs and hence max cricket Cheesy

and the reason it was not a success is because it was really confusing.

100 ball cricket will be successful if they can make it simple rather than confuse the audience, a new format means new advertisement revenue and that is what they are looking for.

Nope. I was not talking about Cricket Max. Power Cricket is a different format, and it was invented in England and not in New Zealand. They never got any international players to take part in the mini-tournament, which lasted just 3-4 days. They played around 10 matches and that was it. No one ever heard about this format again. To tell the truth, I liked the Power Cricket format. At least I felt that it was better than T10.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on May 05, 2020, 08:03:38 AM

That model of power cricket failed and this new model of "100 Ball Cricket" will fail too because the rules of the games are too much complicated. It may be good for the players or the teams competing with each other, but the spectator does not want to indulge in so many complex rules. The current three format of cricket are enough and we do not need to experiment more.

Agreed. The ECB came up with a new format, just for the sake of it. The duration is not much shorter when compared to the T20 format, and there are additional rules added which may make it too complex. Anyway, let's see how the fans react to this format. There will be a lot of hype and advertisement, and I guess that they'll get a good crowd response. But I don't know whether they'll be able to sustain them.

When this new format of tournament will start ? Will it be limited to England or international teams will participate too ?
As all the sports is on hold worldwide, how can this tournament be played when the world is suffering from covid-19 disease?

This new Format is now going to played next season as this season its already cancelled due to Corona so now we have to wait for one year about this all.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 05, 2020, 03:07:18 PM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on May 05, 2020, 08:03:38 AM

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That model of power cricket failed and this new model of "100 Ball Cricket" will fail too because the rules of the games are too much complicated. It may be good for the players or the teams competing with each other, but the spectator does not want to indulge in so many complex rules. The current three format of cricket are enough and we do not need to experiment more.

Quote from: akhjob on May 05, 2020, 11:11:34 AM

Well the rules seems quite interesting. But imo there is no point in just reducing 20 balls from a T20 game and having some completely different rules like having 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries bowled by a bowler. What are they going to gain by reducing 15+15 mins from the T20 format? I don't see any proper justification in having such a new format.

So what if this new experiment fail. You fail when you try something new, nothing wrong with that but it should be encouraged. We should not forget that we are enjoying ODI and T-20 because some nut-job did the experiment with the cricket at some point.

I also do not mind if the new formats of cricket are developed by these experiments. Also this proof that cricket is such a flexible game that one can make many games out of it.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 05, 2020, 08:32:25 AM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on May 05, 2020, 08:03:38 AM

That model of power cricket failed and this new model of "100 Ball Cricket" will fail too because the rules of the games are too much complicated. It may be good for the players or the teams competing with each other, but the spectator does not want to indulge in so many complex rules. The current three format of cricket are enough and we do not need to experiment more.

Agreed. The ECB came up with a new format, just for the sake of it. The duration is not much shorter when compared to the T20 format, and there are additional rules added which may make it too complex. Anyway, let's see how the fans react to this format. There will be a lot of hype and advertisement, and I guess that they'll get a good crowd response. But I don't know whether they'll be able to sustain them.

When this new format of tournament will start ? Will it be limited to England or international teams will participate too ?
As all the sports is on hold worldwide, how can this tournament be played when the world is suffering from covid-19 disease?

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Kerry pecker is quite interesting personality, he and Lalit modi seems same to me in these context. Kerry made the ODI real deal and Modi revolutionized the T-20 format by creating the IPL.

** "Cricket Max" is news to me.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 05, 2020, 03:07:18 PM

So what if this new experiment fail. You fail when you try something new, nothing wrong with that but it should be encouraged. We should not forget that we are enjoying ODI and T-20 because some nut-job did the experiment with the cricket at some point.

The transition of cricket is interesting, ODI started because three days of a test match was washed out and to entertain the crowd they played 40 overs a side and the number of balls in an over was 8 and when ODI was introduced then it was 60 overs per side and the parallel tournament created by Kerry Packer is what we see now as ODI cricket with color jersey, day night matches and white ball instead of red ball and 50 over cricket.

There is a similarity in T20 version too, a parallel league ICL started T20 league and like the former parallel league the cricket board put restrictions and banned many players and IPL copied everything what ICL did and now it is a cash cow and other nations followed.

Now the 100 ball tournament, lets see how it will progress.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on May 05, 2020, 08:03:38 AM

~snip~

That model of power cricket failed and this new model of "100 Ball Cricket" will fail too because the rules of the games are too much complicated. It may be good for the players or the teams competing with each other, but the spectator does not want to indulge in so many complex rules. The current three format of cricket are enough and we do not need to experiment more.

Quote from: akhjob on May 05, 2020, 11:11:34 AM

Well the rules seems quite interesting. But imo there is no point in just reducing 20 balls from a T20 game and having some completely different rules like having 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries bowled by a bowler. What are they going to gain by reducing 15+15 mins from the T20 format? I don't see any proper justification in having such a new format.

So what if this new experiment fail. You fail when you try something new, nothing wrong with that but it should be encouraged. We should not forget that we are enjoying ODI and T-20 because some nut-job did the experiment with the cricket at some point.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 05, 2020, 02:02:42 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 05, 2020, 07:55:43 AM

Around 18-19 years ago... the ECB experimented with another format of cricket called "Power Cricket". This was probably before the T20 cricket established its hold. It was played for a shorter duration. I don't remember exactly, but I guess each innings composed of 12 overs. The major difference with this format was that on top of 4s and 6s, there were 3 new types of boundaries. Depending on the length of the sixer, 8 and 10 runs were given. 8 runs if the ball landed more than 20 meters beyond the boundary line and 10 runs if it landed 40 m back. 12 runs were awarded, when the ball hit the roof (this format was played in stadiums with retractable roof).

I think you are talking about Cricket Max which is invented by former New Zealand cricketer Martin Crowe and it was not ECB who developed that but it was New Zealand, i still remember getting confused and Sachin playing one match when the ball is hit at a certain area you will get double the runs and hence max cricket Cheesy

and the reason it was not a success is because it was really confusing.

100 ball cricket will be successful if they can make it simple rather than confuse the audience, a new format means new advertisement revenue and that is what they are looking for.

Quote from: ene1980 on May 05, 2020, 01:06:02 PM

Whether a fast bowler is able to bowl 10 balls without fatigue, think about Rashid Khan bowling 10 balls on the trot which will be a nightmare for many Cheesy

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If a captain wants to continue him in the team for the next match he will use him for a 5 ball spell than burning him out. It will have two sides either the batsman getting comfortable with a particular bowler or force to counter attack if it gets tougher.

No one can stop these experiments because this is beauty of nature so hopefully we will have something good from this all because once we have only test then one experiment and we have ODI then second experiment we have twenty/20 and now third experiment may be in future we will have 100 ball cricket or any thing like this.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 05, 2020, 07:55:43 AM

Around 18-19 years ago... the ECB experimented with another format of cricket called "Power Cricket". This was probably before the T20 cricket established its hold. It was played for a shorter duration. I don't remember exactly, but I guess each innings composed of 12 overs. The major difference with this format was that on top of 4s and 6s, there were 3 new types of boundaries. Depending on the length of the sixer, 8 and 10 runs were given. 8 runs if the ball landed more than 20 meters beyond the boundary line and 10 runs if it landed 40 m back. 12 runs were awarded, when the ball hit the roof (this format was played in stadiums with retractable roof).

I think you are talking about Cricket Max which is invented by former New Zealand cricketer Martin Crowe and it was not ECB who developed that but it was New Zealand, i still remember getting confused and Sachin playing one match when the ball is hit at a certain area you will get double the runs and hence max cricket Cheesy

and the reason it was not a success is because it was really confusing.

100 ball cricket will be successful if they can make it simple rather than confuse the audience, a new format means new advertisement revenue and that is what they are looking for.

Quote from: ene1980 on May 05, 2020, 01:06:02 PM

Whether a fast bowler is able to bowl 10 balls without fatigue, think about Rashid Khan bowling 10 balls on the trot which will be a nightmare for many Cheesy

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If a captain wants to continue him in the team for the next match he will use him for a 5 ball spell than burning him out. It will have two sides either the batsman getting comfortable with a particular bowler or force to counter attack if it gets tougher.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on May 05, 2020, 12:35:21 PM

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Your point is valid but few boards still very greedy and want to do some more then this all so they are doing their best for this as ECB already doing its just because of Corona they are late otherwise this was all fixed so hopefully this out come will happen next year.

Who does not like money, if you compare the top boards the rest of the cricket boards are not making that kind of money, but here the experimentation is done by ECB as they usually do that and that is how we are having T20 , England experimented with it and now there is a billion dollar business in T20 cricket alone and the new format looks interesting because

20 balls each bowler
Bowlers can opt for 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries instead of 6

Whether a fast bowler is able to bowl 10 balls without fatigue, think about Rashid Khan bowling 10 balls on the trot which will be a nightmare for many Cheesy

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Quote from: ene1980 on May 05, 2020, 09:09:38 AM

Quote from: BitSat19 on May 05, 2020, 07:53:59 AM

Now every board is looking for more audience so applying new and unique ideas so hopefully this will work and attract more crowd the this can go through for many other boards as well and cricket could be more commercial and attractive like soccer and basketball with very less time.

There is no need to introduce more formats to get more commercial success as they have plenty of sponsors and the media is willing to pay any amount for broadcasting rights.

ICC Events - $1.98 billion
ECB- $1.56 billion
BCCI- $944 million
IPL- $2.55 billion
ACB- $920 million

These are the big players and they get the major share, these are not small amounts to get the broadcasting rights and these amounts are par with soccer broadcasting rights.

Your point is valid but few boards still very greedy and want to do some more then this all so they are doing their best for this as ECB already doing its just because of Corona they are late otherwise this was all fixed so hopefully this out come will happen next year.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 05, 2020, 05:17:33 AM

Its interesting experiment and surely very innovative idea. All credit goes to ECB...

Rules:
- 20 balls each bowler
- Bowlers can opt for 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries instead of 6.
- 25 balls of power play with 2 fielder outside of 30 yard circle.

** If this format able to attracts some eyes balls then i would like to see something from the BCCI too, may be some IPL version.

Well the rules seems quite interesting. But imo there is no point in just reducing 20 balls from a T20 game and having some completely different rules like having 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries bowled by a bowler. What are they going to gain by reducing 15+15 mins from the T20 format? I don't see any proper justification in having such a new format.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on May 05, 2020, 07:53:59 AM

Now every board is looking for more audience so applying new and unique ideas so hopefully this will work and attract more crowd the this can go through for many other boards as well and cricket could be more commercial and attractive like soccer and basketball with very less time.

There is no need to introduce more formats to get more commercial success as they have plenty of sponsors and the media is willing to pay any amount for broadcasting rights.

ICC Events - $1.98 billion
ECB- $1.56 billion
BCCI- $944 million
IPL- $2.55 billion
ACB- $920 million

These are the big players and they get the major share, these are not small amounts to get the broadcasting rights and these amounts are par with soccer broadcasting rights.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on May 05, 2020, 08:03:38 AM

That model of power cricket failed and this new model of "100 Ball Cricket" will fail too because the rules of the games are too much complicated. It may be good for the players or the teams competing with each other, but the spectator does not want to indulge in so many complex rules. The current three format of cricket are enough and we do not need to experiment more.

Agreed. The ECB came up with a new format, just for the sake of it. The duration is not much shorter when compared to the T20 format, and there are additional rules added which may make it too complex. Anyway, let's see how the fans react to this format. There will be a lot of hype and advertisement, and I guess that they'll get a good crowd response. But I don't know whether they'll be able to sustain them.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 04, 2020, 11:06:23 PM

Speaking of "Cricket getting shorter" English board doing some experiment with "The Hundred - 100 Ball Cricket" I guess they were supposed to launch tournament this year but it got postponed due to Covid-19. In case they successfully launch this "100 ball thingy" and it gets famous then this format seems strong contender for the Olympics as well. ICC can think about it.....

Cricket is the only sport that keep on innovating new formats we have T20 which is entertaining and with 100 balls which means 16.4 overs and how they are going to do that . One ball per bowler in the final 4 balls would be fun Cheesy

and if the format attracts the crowd then it would be great but more of these shorter formats will kill the test format.

Around 18-19 years ago... the ECB experimented with another format of cricket called "Power Cricket". This was probably before the T20 cricket established its hold. It was played for a shorter duration. I don't remember exactly, but I guess each innings composed of 12 overs. The major difference with this format was that on top of 4s and 6s, there were 3 new types of boundaries. Depending on the length of the sixer, 8 and 10 runs were given. 8 runs if the ball landed more than 20 meters beyond the boundary line and 10 runs if it landed 40 m back. 12 runs were awarded, when the ball hit the roof (this format was played in stadiums with retractable roof).

That model of power cricket failed and this new model of "100 Ball Cricket" will fail too because the rules of the games are too much complicated. It may be good for the players or the teams competing with each other, but the spectator does not want to indulge in so many complex rules. The current three format of cricket are enough and we do not need to experiment more.

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