T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion - page 1587.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 04, 2020, 11:06:23 PM

Speaking of "Cricket getting shorter" English board doing some experiment with "The Hundred - 100 Ball Cricket" I guess they were supposed to launch tournament this year but it got postponed due to Covid-19. In case they successfully launch this "100 ball thingy" and it gets famous then this format seems strong contender for the Olympics as well. ICC can think about it.....

Cricket is the only sport that keep on innovating new formats we have T20 which is entertaining and with 100 balls which means 16.4 overs and how they are going to do that . One ball per bowler in the final 4 balls would be fun Cheesy

and if the format attracts the crowd then it would be great but more of these shorter formats will kill the test format.

Around 18-19 years ago... the ECB experimented with another format of cricket called "Power Cricket". This was probably before the T20 cricket established its hold. It was played for a shorter duration. I don't remember exactly, but I guess each innings composed of 12 overs. The major difference with this format was that on top of 4s and 6s, there were 3 new types of boundaries. Depending on the length of the sixer, 8 and 10 runs were given. 8 runs if the ball landed more than 20 meters beyond the boundary line and 10 runs if it landed 40 m back. 12 runs were awarded, when the ball hit the roof (this format was played in stadiums with retractable roof).

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 05, 2020, 07:03:25 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on May 05, 2020, 05:17:33 AM

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Its interesting experiment and surely very innovative idea. All credit goes to ECB...

Rules:
- 20 balls each bowler
- Bowlers can opt for 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries instead of 6.
- 25 balls of power play with 2 fielder outside of 30 yard circle.

** If this format able to attracts some eyes balls then i would like to see something from the BCCI too, may be some IPL version.

That is fantastic, the captains will have the leverage to have some tactical decisions on how to manage the bowlers and it is really a fresh idea and it will create interest in the fans, usually batsman tend to play out difficult bowlers but in this format they will be sticking in much longer which is incredible and the batsman will be forced to play attacking shots, it will confuse audience in the beginning but looks interesting.

Now every board is looking for more audience so applying new and unique ideas so hopefully this will work and attract more crowd the this can go through for many other boards as well and cricket could be more commercial and attractive like soccer and basketball with very less time.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 05, 2020, 05:17:33 AM

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Its interesting experiment and surely very innovative idea. All credit goes to ECB...

Rules:
- 20 balls each bowler
- Bowlers can opt for 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries instead of 6.
- 25 balls of power play with 2 fielder outside of 30 yard circle.

** If this format able to attracts some eyes balls then i would like to see something from the BCCI too, may be some IPL version.

That is fantastic, the captains will have the leverage to have some tactical decisions on how to manage the bowlers and it is really a fresh idea and it will create interest in the fans, usually batsman tend to play out difficult bowlers but in this format they will be sticking in much longer which is incredible and the batsman will be forced to play attacking shots, it will confuse audience in the beginning but looks interesting.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 05, 2020, 04:10:57 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on May 04, 2020, 11:06:23 PM

Speaking of "Cricket getting shorter" English board doing some experiment with "The Hundred - 100 Ball Cricket" I guess they were supposed to launch tournament this year but it got postponed due to Covid-19. In case they successfully launch this "100 ball thingy" and it gets famous then this format seems strong contender for the Olympics as well. ICC can think about it.....

Cricket is the only sport that keep on innovating new formats we have T20 which is entertaining and with 100 balls which means 16.4 overs and how they are going to do that . One ball per bowler in the final 4 balls would be fun Cheesy

and if the format attracts the crowd then it would be great but more of these shorter formats will kill the test format.

Its interesting experiment and surely very innovative idea. All credit goes to ECB...

Rules:
- 20 balls each bowler
- Bowlers can opt for 5 or 10 consecutive deliveries instead of 6.
- 25 balls of power play with 2 fielder outside of 30 yard circle.

** If this format able to attracts some eyes balls then i would like to see something from the BCCI too, may be some IPL version.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 04, 2020, 11:06:23 PM

Speaking of "Cricket getting shorter" English board doing some experiment with "The Hundred - 100 Ball Cricket" I guess they were supposed to launch tournament this year but it got postponed due to Covid-19. In case they successfully launch this "100 ball thingy" and it gets famous then this format seems strong contender for the Olympics as well. ICC can think about it.....

Cricket is the only sport that keep on innovating new formats we have T20 which is entertaining and with 100 balls which means 16.4 overs and how they are going to do that . One ball per bowler in the final 4 balls would be fun Cheesy

and if the format attracts the crowd then it would be great but more of these shorter formats will kill the test format.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 04, 2020, 06:37:58 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on May 03, 2020, 07:28:17 AM

I checked Abu Dhabi T-10 cricket league's rules and it seems pretty neat, less than 2 hours and match wrapped for good.
- 10 overs for each team, each inning 45 mins.

I heard about the T 10 league but did not watch the match, cricket is getting shorter every year and it might be due to the busy schedule as people are not having time to spend an entire day for a match, like T20 if the Asian teams especially BCCI likes the format then it will have a life on its own like the IPL they might introduce the T10 premium league Cheesy

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T20 or T10 format has a chance to get accepted for the Olympics if the ICC wanted.

Same, didn't watch any professional league but familiar with the format as Gully cricket is all about short version.

Speaking of "Cricket getting shorter" English board doing some experiment with "The Hundred - 100 Ball Cricket" I guess they were supposed to launch tournament this year but it got postponed due to Covid-19. In case they successfully launch this "100 ball thingy" and it gets famous then this format seems strong contender for the Olympics as well. ICC can think about it.....

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The Hundred: Chris Gayle, Steve Smith and David Warner among top-priced players for draft
100 Ball Cricket, I am excited for this one!

Follow up news on The Hundred Draft. check info and other details from their Website. and it starts from 17 July 2020.

Teams are finalized and surprisingly i don't see big name such as Chris Gayle, Malinga and Rabada. anyway here is complete list of players who get picked by 8 teams (price bracket included).

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 03, 2020, 07:28:17 AM

I checked Abu Dhabi T-10 cricket league's rules and it seems pretty neat, less than 2 hours and match wrapped for good.
- 10 overs for each team, each inning 45 mins.

I heard about the T 10 league but did not watch the match, cricket is getting shorter every year and it might be due to the busy schedule as people are not having time to spend an entire day for a match, like T20 if the Asian teams especially BCCI likes the format then it will have a life on its own like the IPL they might introduce the T10 premium league Cheesy

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T20 or T10 format has a chance to get accepted for the Olympics if the ICC wanted.

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@Vishnu.Reang You are talking about Test format in sub-continent?

Not sure what year you are talking about but In recent time Win-loss percentage is much higher than series/match draw.

Climate change is major concern though, even limited over cricket taking a beat for quite some time.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 04, 2020, 09:15:07 AM

Test matches are ending within 5 days, do you think it is because the bowlers are spectacular or the batting standard in Test matches have gone down Wink

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I noticed it's the batting unit. Batsman are more aggressive these days and results are wicket falling down quick and run scoring is quick too. Now run scoring is fine but falling wickets quickly means the batsmen are not that patience to stay in the pitch but go, hit and comeback attitude.

These days bowlers are the one who gets the least benefit from wicket and from everything. I think bowlers are better now.

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^^^^ In the sub-continental surfaces, some of the matches are ending up as draw. Climate change is also playing a major part, in the form of rain interruptions. If we could somehow take care of the rain interruptions, then actually it may be possible to limit the test match duration to 4 days. But as of now, there is no solution available for this.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 04, 2020, 08:14:21 AM

Money is the fuel and money is in short version cricket. Players do not have much patience to play a cricket match for 5 long days unfortunately. Example: We see these days Test matches has results. Very low number of Tests finishes with a draw and lasts five days.

The funny aspect is that ICC and BCCI was not even interested with the T20 concept but when they started seeing huge crowds during regional competition the ICC wanted to experiment with T20 and the World cup was introduced and India even sent a young team for the first World Cup resting the main players and then we know the history as T20 is popular than ODI and Test matches.

Test matches are ending within 5 days, do you think it is because the bowlers are spectacular or the batting standard in Test matches have gone down Wink

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By the way, how are we all doing. I hope everyone is safe and keeping the social distance.

I am safe but the number of patients are increasing in my surrounding which is a cause for concern, hope everyone here is safe and doing well.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 04, 2020, 08:14:21 AM

Example: We see these days Test matches has results. Very low number of Tests finishes with a draw and lasts five days.

More appropriate example is that most players these days take rest from test cricket in their early days of their career. This has been a common issue nowadays and it's being a threat for Test cricket.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 04, 2020, 08:14:21 AM

Well I do not think these days cricketers really focus on being a test player rather than being a T20 hitter. Money is the fuel and money is in short version cricket. Players do not have much patience to play a cricket match for 5 long days unfortunately. Example: We see these days Test matches has results. Very low number of Tests finishes with a draw and lasts five days.

It depends on the player. I have seen some of the players retiring from the test and ODI formats, to concentrate on the shorter version. On the other extreme, we have a few, who have retired from T20/ODI and they are now available only for the tests. It is up to the player to make that decision.

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By the way, how are we all doing. I hope everyone is safe and keeping the social distance.

Many thanks for your concern Royse. I am doing fine, and I hope the others are doing good as well. Here in India, we are through the 7th week of lockdown. Slight relaxations kick in from today onward. But most of the shops and establishments will remain closed for some time.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 04, 2020, 07:28:10 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on May 04, 2020, 12:24:41 AM

Well if our target is skill then we have clear winner "Test Format".

About T-20, i feel that we are repeating same thing again n again

i suggest please check discussion on last page. got nothing new to add.

No doubt there. Test cricket requires the maximum amount of skill. The batsmen needs both attacking and defending capabilities. They need to rotate the strike. The bowlers need to take wickets at crucial intervals and bowling economically won't help much. All that is true. But for the Olympics, we need the most popular format. And right now, the most popular format in cricket is T20.

Well I do not think these days cricketers really focus on being a test player rather than being a T20 hitter. Money is the fuel and money is in short version cricket. Players do not have much patience to play a cricket match for 5 long days unfortunately. Example: We see these days Test matches has results. Very low number of Tests finishes with a draw and lasts five days.

By the way, how are we all doing. I hope everyone is safe and keeping the social distance.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 04, 2020, 12:24:41 AM

Well if our target is skill then we have clear winner "Test Format".

About T-20, i feel that we are repeating same thing again n again

i suggest please check discussion on last page. got nothing new to add.

No doubt there. Test cricket requires the maximum amount of skill. The batsmen needs both attacking and defending capabilities. They need to rotate the strike. The bowlers need to take wickets at crucial intervals and bowling economically won't help much. All that is true. But for the Olympics, we need the most popular format. And right now, the most popular format in cricket is T20.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 03, 2020, 08:13:05 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on May 03, 2020, 07:45:13 AM

1- Its resolved, BCCI already bend the knee for the right reasons and working with the NADA
2- BCCI-ECB-CA-PCB-CSA /ICC all are against it.
3- ICC and cricket boards has 3-4 year window to reschedule any Bilateral or ICC tournament. Olympics only need 12-20 days.

** Last 2 points has some merits.

Thanks for this. My information was not up to date. If BCCI is working with NADA, it is great news. Cricket should be free from performance enhancing drugs, and I hope that we are moving in that direction. Yes.. none of the cricket boards will favor qualifying tournaments. I should have said all the 11 test boards plus ICC, rather than saying BCCI/ICC.

Regarding your last point: If cricket is included in the 2028 Olympic games, then I guess it will be similar to football. Only 2-3 regular players will be allowed and the remainder will be U-23 players. So I am not sure whether the ICC tournaments needs to be rescheduled or not. It may affect only a few players.

Yeah on 6 month trial. i covered this in last page.
Not much excited if it happens with the cricket too (Similar to football), already mentioned in the last page...

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if they include cricket then they can follow the same path as football with qualification tournaments and 16 teams with a group stage of 4 group and then a knockout stage. Even if cricket is accepted i do not think that the top teams will send their best team to represent as it will clash with the regular schedule and at best they will send a second string team.

As far as i know football in the Olympic is not big thing per se because majority of the players are required to be under 23 age. if this happens with cricket then its not real deal IMO. Schedule and dividing groups are open to discussion, they are more than capable of handling this issue so its not a big deal.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 03, 2020, 07:28:17 AM

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If you are including cricket in Olympics, it is best to introduce T20 than any other format, i am not a fan of the T10 format as you are not able to see the skills of the batsman, just slogging will be the key selection criteria which will not help the game in the long run, Test match is a dying breed because majority of the players like the shorter format and if you introduce cricket to the Olympics then it should be T20.

Well if our target is skill then we have clear winner "Test Format".

About T-20, i feel that we are repeating same thing again n again

i suggest please check discussion on last page. got nothing new to add.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 03, 2020, 07:28:17 AM

I checked Abu Dhabi T-10 cricket league's rules and it seems pretty neat, less than 2 hours and match wrapped for good.

- 10 overs for each team, each inning 45 mins.
- Power play for First 4 overs, only 2 players can stay outside 30 yard circle during power play. 1 bowler can bawl only 2 overs
- In case of interruption or rain, minimum 5 overs are required from each team to get the results.

If you are including cricket in Olympics, it is best to introduce T20 than any other format, i am not a fan of the T10 format as you are not able to see the skills of the batsman, just slogging will be the key selection criteria which will not help the game in the long run, Test match is a dying breed because majority of the players like the shorter format and if you introduce cricket to the Olympics then it should be T20.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 03, 2020, 07:45:13 AM

1- Its resolved, BCCI already bend the knee for the right reasons and working with the NADA
2- BCCI-ECB-CA-PCB-CSA /ICC all are against it.
3- ICC and cricket boards has 3-4 year window to reschedule any Bilateral or ICC tournament. Olympics only need 12-20 days.

** Last 2 points has some merits.

Thanks for this. My information was not up to date. If BCCI is working with NADA, it is great news. Cricket should be free from performance enhancing drugs, and I hope that we are moving in that direction. Yes.. none of the cricket boards will favor qualifying tournaments. I should have said all the 11 test boards plus ICC, rather than saying BCCI/ICC.

Regarding your last point: If cricket is included in the 2028 Olympic games, then I guess it will be similar to football. Only 2-3 regular players will be allowed and the remainder will be U-23 players. So I am not sure whether the ICC tournaments needs to be rescheduled or not. It may affect only a few players.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 03, 2020, 07:34:11 AM

Quote from: mersal on May 03, 2020, 03:54:35 AM

BCCI will never add cricket into olympics even other cricket boards wanted to BCCI can influence them to stop them getting added because if cricket become a part of Olympics then BCCI is one of the big profits loser from their major tournaments this is the only reason they don't want to be a part of Olympics.

Loss of profits may be just one of the many concerns. There are other factors in play as well. Some of them are:

1. Olympic athletes are subjected to drug tests. BCCI has not given approval to this.

2. There will be no automatic qualification for all the 11 test nations. BCCI/ICC is against this.

3. A global tournament such as Olympics can have a negative impact on other ICC tournaments.

4. Only citizens of a particular country can represent it in the Olympic games. This means that UAE, USA.etc can't field teams.

5. It may cause complexities to some of the existing teams. For example, England, Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland will be forced to field a single team (which needs to include other teams such as Bermuda, Anguilla.etc as well). Ireland team will only consist of Republic of Ireland. Northern Ireland players can't play for Ireland.

1- Its resolved, BCCI already bend the knee for the right reasons and working with the NADA. (6 months trial)
2- BCCI-ECB-CA-PCB-CSA /ICC all are against it.
3- ICC and cricket boards has 3-4 year window to reschedule any Bilateral or ICC tournament. Olympics only need 12-20 days.

** Last 2 points has some merits.

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Quote from: mersal on May 03, 2020, 03:54:35 AM

BCCI will never add cricket into olympics even other cricket boards wanted to BCCI can influence them to stop them getting added because if cricket become a part of Olympics then BCCI is one of the big profits loser from their major tournaments this is the only reason they don't want to be a part of Olympics.

Loss of profits may be just one of the many concerns. There are other factors in play as well. Some of them are:

1. Olympic athletes are subjected to drug tests. BCCI has not given approval to this.

2. There will be no automatic qualification for all the 11 test nations. BCCI/ICC is against this.

3. A global tournament such as Olympics can have a negative impact on other ICC tournaments.

4. Only citizens of a particular country can represent it in the Olympic games. This means that UAE, USA.etc can't field teams.

5. It may cause complexities to some of the existing teams. For example, England, Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland will be forced to field a single team (which needs to include other teams such as Bermuda, Anguilla.etc as well). Ireland team will only consist of Republic of Ireland. Northern Ireland players can't play for Ireland.

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