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NZ cricket board and their government will not allow mid night slot games, which is very reasonable.
From what i understand the New Zealand government usually change their stance if there is big money involved and if the BCCI is conducting their tournament then it is a big money match up and i hope they will be willing to accept them. The reason i say this is because you could get a citizenship if you are willing to shell out a million dollars and it is not a big deal for these time slots if the BCCI is willing to pay them.

In that case, the BCCI may prefer Sri Lanka ( I would assume that staging the tournament in UAE is not feasible, as they have 500 to 1,000 new infections everyday despite the small population). During the last 7 days, there were 33 new cases in Sri Lanka. Out of this 33, 32 were imported cases (mostly from the Gulf nations) and one case was reported among the navy personal.
Is it not the virus is entirely imported from China, there is a meme which is going around where the theme is that, they usually export duplicate and cheap stuff but when it comes to the virus they exported the real legit one  Tongue. It all depends upon the government whether they want to take the opportunity or a hurdle to accept the invitation as it is not an easy job to give clearance during a pandemic as any wrong move by the government could affect their reputation during the next elections.
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NZ cricket board and their government will not allow mid night slot games, which is very reasonable.

Not everyone in India works in the IT industry  Wink and they don't have privilege of "Working from home" so bit tough to fill the vacuum.

In that case, the BCCI may prefer Sri Lanka ( I would assume that staging the tournament in UAE is not feasible, as they have 500 to 1,000 new infections everyday despite the small population). During the last 7 days, there were 33 new cases in Sri Lanka. Out of this 33, 32 were imported cases (mostly from the Gulf nations) and one case was reported among the navy personal.

This is as good as it can get for the BCCI. If they don't want the tournament in NZ, then Sri Lanka is the only option. In Sri Lanka, almost half of the total cases (~ 2,000 since March) are imported, while most of the remainder was found among the navy personnel. So any risk for the players if the tournament is staged in Sri Lanka is negligible.

BTW, did anyone noticed the CPL 2020 draft that was completed yesterday? Nepal player Sandeep Lamichhane got a deal worth $130,000. Mohammad Nabi and Ben Dunk also received deals worth similar amounts. The highest price was fetched by Chris Lynn and Rashid Khan ($160,000 each).

Why are we still discussing IPL being conducted outside India? Is there any proof that supports this topic or it is just a speculation as I have not seen any information regarding it.

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NZ cricket board and their government will not allow mid night slot games, which is very reasonable.

Not everyone in India works in the IT industry  Wink and they don't have privilege of "Working from home" so bit tough to fill the vacuum.

In that case, the BCCI may prefer Sri Lanka ( I would assume that staging the tournament in UAE is not feasible, as they have 500 to 1,000 new infections everyday despite the small population). During the last 7 days, there were 33 new cases in Sri Lanka. Out of this 33, 32 were imported cases (mostly from the Gulf nations) and one case was reported among the navy personal.

This is as good as it can get for the BCCI. If they don't want the tournament in NZ, then Sri Lanka is the only option. In Sri Lanka, almost half of the total cases (~ 2,000 since March) are imported, while most of the remainder was found among the navy personnel. So any risk for the players if the tournament is staged in Sri Lanka is negligible.

BTW, did anyone noticed the CPL 2020 draft that was completed yesterday? Nepal player Sandeep Lamichhane got a deal worth $130,000. Mohammad Nabi and Ben Dunk also received deals worth similar amounts. The highest price was fetched by Chris Lynn and Rashid Khan ($160,000 each).
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Take away:  To facilitate 7 pm (IST) audience, which is kinda prime time. BCCI need to start games at around 01:30 AM in NZ (NZST), is this sounds logical? Not really IMO.

ROFLMAO. It was never tried before, but never under-estimate the greed of BCCI. They can start the games around that time, and finish them by the sunrise.  Grin

But more probably, they would be targeting the morning and after-noon timings in India. Most of the people are working from home, and therefore 7pm-11pm slot may not hold much importance now. They can start the matches at around 10 am Indian time and then finish them by 2 pm. That would translate to 4:30 pm - 8:30 pm in New Zealand. The second set of matches can start at around 9pm NZ time.

NZ cricket board and their government will not allow mid night slot games, which is very reasonable.

Not everyone in India works in the IT industry  Wink and they don't have privilege of "Working from home" so bit tough to fill the vacuum.
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Take away:  To facilitate 7 pm (IST) audience, which is kinda prime time. BCCI need to start games at around 01:30 AM in NZ (NZST), is this sounds logical? Not really IMO.

ROFLMAO. It was never tried before, but never under-estimate the greed of BCCI. They can start the games around that time, and finish them by the sunrise.  Grin

But more probably, they would be targeting the morning and after-noon timings in India. Most of the people are working from home, and therefore 7pm-11pm slot may not hold much importance now. They can start the matches at around 10 am Indian time and then finish them by 2 pm. That would translate to 4:30 pm - 8:30 pm in New Zealand. The second set of matches can start at around 9pm NZ time.
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Take away:  To facilitate 7 pm (IST) audience, which is kinda prime time. BCCI need to start games at around 01:30 AM in NZ (NZST), is this sounds logical? Not really IMO.
Not logical at all and not possible to start on such a time. I do not think it will be good idea to host IPL on NZ due to the time difference. As you mentioned above, all the commercials are targeted to India. It will be a big loss for commercial if it held in NZ. Srilanka is a good choice in my opinion.
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Some news for you guys..

- NZ joins the rank and offered to host this year IPL in New Zealand after UAE and Srilanka, UAE is first choice, SL is cost effective and NZ is almost Covid free (but time-zone difference)
- Sri Lankan WK batsman Kusal Mendis has been arrested for running over 64 yo man (Dead)

So finally... we have a practical suggestion. New Zealand is the only country which can host a major cricket tournament right now, as they have remained largely free of COVID 19. They have a number of stadiums with floodlights, so I don't think that the time zone difference is going to matter much. The BCCI should seriously take this suggestion in to consideration.
Time difference factor is big as mentioned by @Indymoney as well.

- NZ is ahead of India around 6-7 hours.
- Normally IPL games takes place around 1 PM (Few) or 7 PM (Majority) - Indian Standard Time
- IPL's revenue model based on Indian market/audience.

Take away:  To facilitate 7 pm (IST) audience, which is kinda prime time. BCCI need to start games at around 01:30 AM in NZ (NZST), is this sounds logical? Not really IMO.
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Fair argument..
1. Empty stands is not alien scenario in the cricket or any sports. @7788bitcoin already pointed out one counter argument.
2. For starters BCCI aiming to conduct IPL season in UAE or Srl Lanka not India bc both countries are much safer destination in comparison of India.
3. When any series/tournaments takes place in tough condition, the first thing everyone discuss is safety so i think we should leave this to interesting parties.

Coming back to @vishnu statement, his position on audience's fatigue or overdose of IPL is true and might backfire on BCCI but we shouldn't forget that after 3-4 months halt due to pandemic audience are hungry for some sort of entertainment in the cricket and then we have revenue angle too.

Sri Lanka may be safer when compared to India, but I would disagree with you regarding UAE. The GCC nations have been severely affected by this pandemic, and the UAE is not an exception. If you want to talk about the numbers, then UAE is having 5,142 cases per 1 million population, while in India the same figure is 489 per million (almost 10 times lower). On top of that, there are rumors that the GCC nations are under-counting both the cases and casualties from COVID 19.

Forget about other countries if BCCI cannot organize the IPL tournament in India due to COVID19. It will get canceled. Indian Government will not allow the matches to happen anywhere outside India. National sentiments are too high in India at the moment and this government is known for encouraging it.

So, an interesting news is that BCCI is starting to plan the IPL 2020 now irrespective of the ICC decision which is not yet taken about the T20 world cup which was supposed to happen later this year. So now this is something where BCCI is standing as boss and without any confirmation from the ICC about the world cup they are ready to prepare for the IPL. It is better to stay coordinated and then plan the tournaments.



I also think that with the current situation unfolding in Australia will also give more power to the BCCI as its very unlikely that the T20 world cup will be played this year unless the situation in Victoria changes quickly which doesn't look like happening as they just had the biggest spike in cases since the virus started in Australia. To be honest I think its all about money which is why the BCCI are pushing for the IPL season to be played.
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So, an interesting news is that BCCI is starting to plan the IPL 2020 now irrespective of the ICC decision which is not yet taken about the T20 world cup which was supposed to happen later this year. So now this is something where BCCI is standing as boss and without any confirmation from the ICC about the world cup they are ready to prepare for the IPL. It is better to stay coordinated and then plan the tournaments.
The ICC was extending the tournament nor taking any decision about carrying on with the tournament and it looks like a planned game now as the BCCI wants to carry on with the IPL and there will be countries opening up their borders to conduct the tournament.

- Sri Lankan WK batsman Kusal Mendis has been arrested for running over 64 yo man (Dead)
Really sad to hear, was he drunk and driving.
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Some news for you guys..

- NZ joins the rank and offered to host this year IPL in New Zealand after UAE and Srilanka, UAE is first choice, SL is cost effective and NZ is almost Covid free (but time-zone difference)
- Sri Lankan WK batsman Kusal Mendis has been arrested for running over 64 yo man (Dead)

So finally... we have a practical suggestion. New Zealand is the only country which can host a major cricket tournament right now, as they have remained largely free of COVID 19. They have a number of stadiums with floodlights, so I don't think that the time zone difference is going to matter much. The BCCI should seriously take this suggestion in to consideration.
I don't think they are going serious about this suggestion because still few issues with travel and time zone is also very serious issue even many stadiums are with floodlights but now good thing for them they have new suggestion and can think about this but I am still feeling its not suitable for them.
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Some news for you guys..

- NZ joins the rank and offered to host this year IPL in New Zealand after UAE and Srilanka, UAE is first choice, SL is cost effective and NZ is almost Covid free (but time-zone difference)
- Sri Lankan WK batsman Kusal Mendis has been arrested for running over 64 yo man (Dead)

So finally... we have a practical suggestion. New Zealand is the only country which can host a major cricket tournament right now, as they have remained largely free of COVID 19. They have a number of stadiums with floodlights, so I don't think that the time zone difference is going to matter much. The BCCI should seriously take this suggestion in to consideration.
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Some news for you guys..

- NZ joins the rank and offered to host this year IPL in New Zealand after UAE and Srilanka, UAE is first choice, SL is cost effective and NZ is almost Covid free (but time-zone difference)
- Sri Lankan WK batsman Kusal Mendis has been arrested for running over 64 yo man (Dead)
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Forget about other countries if BCCI cannot organize the IPL tournament in India due to COVID19. It will get canceled. Indian Government will not allow the matches to happen anywhere outside India. National sentiments are too high in India at the moment and this government is known for encouraging it.

It has nothing to do with nationalist sentiments, and IPL has been staged outside India earlier. The second edition of the IPL in 2009 was staged in South Africa, as the scheduling in India was affected due to the general elections. The organization of the tournament in South Africa was regarded as a grand success, and there were talks of hosting IPL editions outside India on a regular basis. But then, financial considerations came to play and the BCCI chose to limit the tournament to India.
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Fair argument..
1. Empty stands is not alien scenario in the cricket or any sports. @7788bitcoin already pointed out one counter argument.
2. For starters BCCI aiming to conduct IPL season in UAE or Srl Lanka not India bc both countries are much safer destination in comparison of India.
3. When any series/tournaments takes place in tough condition, the first thing everyone discuss is safety so i think we should leave this to interesting parties.

Coming back to @vishnu statement, his position on audience's fatigue or overdose of IPL is true and might backfire on BCCI but we shouldn't forget that after 3-4 months halt due to pandemic audience are hungry for some sort of entertainment in the cricket and then we have revenue angle too.

Sri Lanka may be safer when compared to India, but I would disagree with you regarding UAE. The GCC nations have been severely affected by this pandemic, and the UAE is not an exception. If you want to talk about the numbers, then UAE is having 5,142 cases per 1 million population, while in India the same figure is 489 per million (almost 10 times lower). On top of that, there are rumors that the GCC nations are under-counting both the cases and casualties from COVID 19.

Forget about other countries if BCCI cannot organize the IPL tournament in India due to COVID19. It will get canceled. Indian Government will not allow the matches to happen anywhere outside India. National sentiments are too high in India at the moment and this government is known for encouraging it.
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Coming back to @vishnu statement, his position on audience's fatigue or overdose of IPL is true and might backfire on BCCI but we shouldn't forget that after 3-4 months halt due to pandemic audience are hungry for some sort of entertainment in the cricket and then we have revenue angle too.
Why is there a talk about audience fatigue when there is no possibility that the ICC will allow the BCCI to conduct their tournament consecutively when the international schedule is halted in the name of pandemic and it will not help anyone as other cricket boards will come up with their franchise cricket and ICC will be forced to take a neutral stand.

Because once ICC officially announce the complete cancellation of T-20 WC, then no one could stop BCCI (except covid-19) as slots are technically free to use for anyone and BCCI just got lucky. One could argue what about FTP (Bilateral series)? but BCCI is already covered as there was no bilateral commitment during that period except  World Cup and Australia's tour (Schedule in Nov-Dec-Jan). There is one more factor "Asia Cup" but schedule is not fixed yet and decision is pending for quite some time, let's see what happens.

About other boards.
PSL - Already finished (3 games left only)
BBL - They might go with the league as India already touring Australia at the same time, it happens every year. (Dec-Nov-Feb)

After all this comes fatigue argument...



@Vishnu.Reang May be.. As of now everything is speculation so let's see. Having said that BCCI really want to organize IPL due to revenue, which is very understandable argument, nothing wrong with that and no one should really blame them for it, money is important too IMO. Players can't sit out whole year without playing any cricket.  

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Fair argument..
1. Empty stands is not alien scenario in the cricket or any sports. @7788bitcoin already pointed out one counter argument.
2. For starters BCCI aiming to conduct IPL season in UAE or Srl Lanka not India bc both countries are much safer destination in comparison of India.
3. When any series/tournaments takes place in tough condition, the first thing everyone discuss is safety so i think we should leave this to interesting parties.

Coming back to @vishnu statement, his position on audience's fatigue or overdose of IPL is true and might backfire on BCCI but we shouldn't forget that after 3-4 months halt due to pandemic audience are hungry for some sort of entertainment in the cricket and then we have revenue angle too.

Sri Lanka may be safer when compared to India, but I would disagree with you regarding UAE. The GCC nations have been severely affected by this pandemic, and the UAE is not an exception. If you want to talk about the numbers, then UAE is having 5,142 cases per 1 million population, while in India the same figure is 489 per million (almost 10 times lower). On top of that, there are rumors that the GCC nations are under-counting both the cases and casualties from COVID 19.
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I think that if back-to-back IPL tournament will be held, there will haven't any problem. IMO, it is good for BCCI. because they can get much profit from sponsor. on the other hand, it is good news for those people, who do like sports gambling. we all know that "IPL" is a big platform for gambling. so, if IPL will be held, I won't be mined anything. it will be good for me too.  I am just waiting for this tournament,
I am not sure if they can consider this back to back IPL. Because if it does not happen in India which is most likely for this year due to the pandemic so the country would lose the revenue opportunity related to the hosting of IPL. So they may just consider it for this year if it happens and then might be next year could get postponed to latter half of the year rather than usual April month.

yahh you got my point. if the IPL is postponed this year, then BCCI will lose a large amount of money. I don't think BCCI want this type of financial damage.  they will try their best to organize the IPL in this year.  and I think, they may postpone the date of IPL next year. but if really, they want to held IPL in this year, they have to ensure players safety first. if any player will be affected by covid-19 during the IPL, all of his responsibility has to be taken by the IPL committee.

They will postpone the tournament, if they wanted to cancel it then they would have done that in the month of May or June. They still can conduct it by the end of this year, How and Where is still unknown? I am sure most of the executive members of the BCCI do not have a clue as to how will the organise it in such a situation wherein India is ranking as the top 5 countries worst affected by the pandemic.

One of the reasons what BCCI would be thinking at this point of time and may be it is getting delayed is that just while playing IPL if some players get Covid positive and due to which later on few other players also get positive in such instance it can backfire them because the people and the other governments may say that was playing during this time necessary or cannot it be postponed to later date or next year. This may be a worrying factor to them.

Yes, this disease can happen to anyone if proper precaution are not taken and if one player gets infected he can become a super spreader which will easily jeopardize the reputation of IPL and BCCI. The government of India has still placed a ban on huge gathering at the moment. You need to take permission from local authorities in order to organize an event. BCCI is also waiting for it to be removed
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I think that if back-to-back IPL tournament will be held, there will haven't any problem. IMO, it is good for BCCI. because they can get much profit from sponsor. on the other hand, it is good news for those people, who do like sports gambling. we all know that "IPL" is a big platform for gambling. so, if IPL will be held, I won't be mined anything. it will be good for me too.  I am just waiting for this tournament,
I am not sure if they can consider this back to back IPL. Because if it does not happen in India which is most likely for this year due to the pandemic so the country would lose the revenue opportunity related to the hosting of IPL. So they may just consider it for this year if it happens and then might be next year could get postponed to latter half of the year rather than usual April month.

yahh you got my point. if the IPL is postponed this year, then BCCI will lose a large amount of money. I don't think BCCI want this type of financial damage.  they will try their best to organize the IPL in this year.  and I think, they may postpone the date of IPL next year. but if really, they want to held IPL in this year, they have to ensure players safety first. if any player will be affected by covid-19 during the IPL, all of his responsibility has to be taken by the IPL committee.

They will postpone the tournament, if they wanted to cancel it then they would have done that in the month of May or June. They still can conduct it by the end of this year, How and Where is still unknown? I am sure most of the executive members of the BCCI do not have a clue as to how will they organize it in such a situation wherein India is ranking as the top 5 countries worst affected by the pandemic.
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Coming back to @vishnu statement, his position on audience's fatigue or overdose of IPL is true and might backfire on BCCI but we shouldn't forget that after 3-4 months halt due to pandemic audience are hungry for some sort of entertainment in the cricket and then we have revenue angle too.
Why is there a talk about audience fatigue when there is no possibility that the ICC will allow the BCCI to conduct their tournament consecutively when the international schedule is halted in the name of pandemic and it will not help anyone as other cricket boards will come up with their franchise cricket and ICC will be forced to take a neutral stand.

Nothing new they have done this in the past and it was all political. This was supposed to happen before even they started it they canceled it and after few years again they will come and do the same. The Srilankan Sports Minister was high on something when he spoke about this issue to the media.
Is the accusation came from the present sports minister, i thought some former minister came out with the accusation to have some media exposure. I still think this is a media circus as some have mentioned that the investigation is called off.
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I think its the end for the T20 world cup this year as the virus cases continue to grow in Victoria where the final was meant to be played. Its a shame as Australia have been doing a good job at containing the virus but a cluster started when overseas travellers arrived in Melbourne and the staff and security at the hotels contracted the virus and now its out of control so the T20 world cup most likely won't go ahead now.

More here:  https://www.insidesport.co/all-is-over-for-t20-world-cup-as-cases-increase-in-victoria-ipl-2020-set-to-get-lifeline/
Cricket enthusiasts will really bad for now because T20 world cup is something more attracted to new generation people but this year we are going to miss that entertainment and also they missed IPL as well.Its time for to save human kind from deadly virus so safe distance from everyone to save you as well as others.

@vella85 this is sad news for fans like me who were eagerly waiting for the T20 World Cup, and I can’t believe that few days ago situation was completely under control, and there were even talks of fans being allowed back in the stadium, and hence it’s difficult for me to understand why did Australia suddenly let it’s guard down?. Further IPL will definitely be scheduled if the World Cup is off, but with no fans in the stadium and limited over seas player’s, I'm not sure if it’ll be as entertaining as it usually is?.

Sources:

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/ipl-2020-to-be-held-behind-closed-doors-want-foreign-players-say-franchises-1654822-2020-03-12

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/national-cabinet-coronavirus-restrictions-prime-minister-protes/12348718

Yes it is sad because even I was looking forward to the T20 world cup being held in my country but it just isn't going to happen with the cases rising here in Victoria with over 100 cases being recorded yesterday. The problem has come from overseas travellers going into hotel quarantine which is where the outbreak started and hasn't stopped. Now some suburbs are in lockdown once again but it doesn't seem to be helping. Other states are doing well so I was thinking that if there is any chance for the T20 world cup being played maybe the other states can host the final as the football teams from Victoria are now relocating to the other states to keep the season alive so it could also be done for the T20 world cup if they want to. That's of course that the situation in these other states remains under control.   
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