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Quote from: glowing10 on June 26, 2020, 12:13:47 PM

For Pakistan team and fan, it may be the good news that PCB may reconsider their policy for people who is found Covid positive to test only once now and if it comes as negative then they could be part of team. Previous it was like test would be done twice and only if both results show as negative then only, they will be part of team.

PCB is completely confused and does not have a clue what it needed to do. It is good to know that they are now clear about what they will be doing in the future. If done correctly then one test is sufficient to determine a person is Covid19 positive or negative.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 25, 2020, 03:28:55 PM

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^ Full capacity crowds? Shocked

That would be a stupid idea. One thing we should learn from the recent incident with the Pakistan cricketers is that even if you take necessary precautions to not get infected, it just needs 1 unknown carrier to spread the virus to others. So just think about the impact on a huge cheering crowd Lips sealed

It is evident that teh Pakistan cricket board whatever it may be did not take the necessary precautions and if they really did those then they would not have suffered like that, Soccer clubs and the UFC showed how to resume the sports by testing each and every person that is participating in the event and then give them a window to isolate themselves before the test results are out and if you are not doing that then it is bound to see disasters like these.

As you have mentioned, maybe PCB didn't take any precautions but having full crowds for the games is just a stupid decision. I believe both PL and UFC are resumed without spectators so you just have to properly check your players and supporting staffs and you don't necessarily have to worry about thousands of spectators.

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For Pakistan team and fan, it may be the good news that PCB may reconsider their policy for people who is found Covid positive to test only once now and if it comes as negative then they could be part of team. Previous it was like test would be done twice and only if both results show as negative then only, they will be part of team.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 26, 2020, 11:46:33 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 25, 2020, 09:51:30 PM

^^ Well majority of the international cricket stadiums are situated in south Australia, so don't know if Western Australia can afford/able to host complete tournament alone, how many international cricket stadium they have except WACA and perth?

The advantage with Australia is that they have a good number of stadiums, where first-class matches have been staged. These stadiums can be used to host the international matches, as a last resort. Also, there are many dual purpose stadiums in Australia. During the cricket season, they are used for Sheffield Shield and BBL matches, and during the football season, they are used for the Australian rules football. A few such stadiums that come to my mind are - Subiaco Oval, Claremont Oval and the Bassendean Oval.

That said, the main venues are going to be the two international stadiums - WACA Ground and the Optus Stadium.

There might be fair amount of cricket stadium in Western part but no stadium got any opportunity to host even single international cricket match, not sure why? Only grounds gets games there are Waca and Optus (perth) Stadium.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 25, 2020, 09:51:30 PM

^^ Well majority of the international cricket stadiums are situated in south Australia, so don't know if Western Australia can afford/able to host complete tournament alone, how many international cricket stadium they have except WACA and perth?

The advantage with Australia is that they have a good number of stadiums, where first-class matches have been staged. These stadiums can be used to host the international matches, as a last resort. Also, there are many dual purpose stadiums in Australia. During the cricket season, they are used for Sheffield Shield and BBL matches, and during the football season, they are used for the Australian rules football. A few such stadiums that come to my mind are - Subiaco Oval, Claremont Oval and the Bassendean Oval.

That said, the main venues are going to be the two international stadiums - WACA Ground and the Optus Stadium.

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^^ Well majority of the international cricket stadiums are situated in south Australia, so don't know if Western Australia can afford/able to host complete tournament alone, how many international cricket stadium they have except WACA and perth?

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 11:07:11 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:40:15 PM

There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

Today? I was under impression that meeting is schedule to next month, they did met recently around 10ish june.

Cancellation announcement seems only formality to me, every interested parties already seems to favoring cancellation for so long.

I thought that same and I do think that the T20 world cup will be postponed as the situation here in Australia is now getting out of control. The cases in Victoria where the final was to be played is really spiking so I can't see the world cup going ahead unless they move it to another state like Western Australia where the cases are low and under control. State borders are still closed in Australia and the Western Australian government is pushing to have the AFL grand final played in Western Australia and also the boxing day test match so I wouldn't be surprised if they put forward a case to also host the T20 world cup final and most of the matches. Time will tell on what the ICC decide but its looking unlikely to me that it will go ahead as planned.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 25, 2020, 03:28:55 PM

Quote from: akhjob on June 25, 2020, 10:47:00 AM

^ Full capacity crowds? Shocked

That would be a stupid idea. One thing we should learn from the recent incident with the Pakistan cricketers is that even if you take necessary precautions to not get infected, it just needs 1 unknown carrier to spread the virus to others. So just think about the impact on a huge cheering crowd Lips sealed

It is evident that teh Pakistan cricket board whatever it may be did not take the necessary precautions and if they really did those then they would not have suffered like that, Soccer clubs and the UFC showed how to resume the sports by testing each and every person that is participating in the event and then give them a window to isolate themselves before the test results are out and if you are not doing that then it is bound to see disasters like these.

As I already said we have some more drama about these positive reports hopefully this all will be solved and PCB now take care about this all because now many other players also not feeling good with this all but PCB is now ready to do some better things for any worst happen.

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Quote from: akhjob on June 25, 2020, 10:47:00 AM

^ Full capacity crowds? Shocked

That would be a stupid idea. One thing we should learn from the recent incident with the Pakistan cricketers is that even if you take necessary precautions to not get infected, it just needs 1 unknown carrier to spread the virus to others. So just think about the impact on a huge cheering crowd Lips sealed

It is evident that teh Pakistan cricket board whatever it may be did not take the necessary precautions and if they really did those then they would not have suffered like that, Soccer clubs and the UFC showed how to resume the sports by testing each and every person that is participating in the event and then give them a window to isolate themselves before the test results are out and if you are not doing that then it is bound to see disasters like these.

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^ Full capacity crowds? Shocked

That would be a stupid idea. One thing we should learn from the recent incident with the Pakistan cricketers is that even if you take necessary precautions to not get infected, it just needs 1 unknown carrier to spread the virus to others. So just think about the impact on a huge cheering crowd Lips sealed

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:40:15 PM

There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

@Vishnu.Reang I feel that ICC is not in favour of postponing the World Cup, and the news that the World Cup will be postponed has been spread by the IPL organisers who want to pressurise ICC into postponing the World Cup. Further I’m aware that the CA chairman too has casted doubts about the World Cup, but now Australia’s PM has decided to allow crowds back in the stadium which means that T20 World Cup will definitely go ahead if ICC pushes for it.

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This piece of news will bring in some smiles to the faces of International Cricket Council (ICC), Cricket Australia (CA) and those cricket fans who are eagerly waiting for the ICC T20 World Cup down under in October-Nov this year. With COVID-19 relatively under control in Western Australia (WA), the state government has announced plans to allow full-capacity crowds from July 18, meaning up to 60,000 fans could attend games at Perth’s Optus Stadium while other part of the country also gradually opening up.

But at the same time, this news will disappoint the Indian Premier League (IPL 2020) fans who are hoping for the T20 World Cup window to be utilized by IPL 2020 this year.

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https://www.insidesport.co/big-positive-for-icc-t20-world-cup-perths-optus-stadium-to-allow-full-house-crowd/

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:40:15 PM

There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

Today? I was under impression that meeting is schedule to next month, they did met recently around 10ish june.

Cancellation announcement seems only formality to me, every interested parties already seems to favoring cancellation for so long.

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There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

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Quote from: Indymoney on June 24, 2020, 05:58:22 PM

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Right now we have many jokes around but one thing is serious that many peoples already died and thousands on vantilators but really weired situation for me as stick locl down and lives still not safe hospitals full and Doctors also losing lives in this all need some very good mind for understanding this all.

That is the nature of the virus, the WHO is funded heavily and they get around $5 billion annual and if they are not able to conduct valid test and research and get to the bottom of the situation and if they would have started the preparation when the virus started spreading in China we would not have seen these kind of catastrophes and when they change important statements every week then what is the real use of the World Health Organization that does not deliver anything and helps in combating the virus.

Just think, the WHO could have prevented this pandemic if they had taken actions when the virus started spreading in China.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on June 24, 2020, 05:37:12 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 08:52:34 AM

i think let's wait for 1 week at least, we might have some clear picture because today Mohammad Hafiz claimed that he's took second test and result came negative.

I hope the rest of the fighters will not be affected because if you are not taking the testing serious you are bound to see a disaster as it is evident from the recent Tennis tournament conducted by Djokovic and many of the players who participated in the event are corona positive including Djokovic which is really unfortunate and it is a lesson for every sporting event that are planning to resume.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 11:34:47 AM

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

WHO is a joke.

Right now we have many jokes around but one thing is serious that many peoples already died and thousands on vantilators but really weired situation for me as stick locl down and lives still not safe hospitals full and Doctors also losing lives in this all need some very good mind for understanding this all.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 08:52:34 AM

i think let's wait for 1 week at least, we might have some clear picture because today Mohammad Hafiz claimed that he's took second test and result came negative.

I hope the rest of the fighters will not be affected because if you are not taking the testing serious you are bound to see a disaster as it is evident from the recent Tennis tournament conducted by Djokovic and many of the players who participated in the event are corona positive including Djokovic which is really unfortunate and it is a lesson for every sporting event that are planning to resume.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 11:34:47 AM

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

WHO is a joke.

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May be the real reason is that they cannot afford missing the series because of financial reason, three months of no cricket and the board is already suffering because there is not much cricket played in Pakistan and with the lock down and the virus they might be in financial crisis and it makes sense that they want to continue even thought 10 of their players are infected, asymptomatic does not mean they are not carriers of the virus and they need to check what is going on with the players to get everyone infected.

Well, that seems a main reason, i suppose and i don't blame them for that. Pandemic is quite hard on every cricket board and more so on when some board are already facing some financial challenges.

In reply to @Vishnu.Reang and you on contagious topic, i think let's wait for 1 week at least, we might have some clear picture because today Mohammad Hafiz claimed that he's took second test and result came negative.

Hafeez claims negative Covid-19 result a day after testing positive

Look like we are going to watch some more drama about this Covid-19 in next few days as many local peoples already complaining about this and they are now feeling its really serious issue many labortries and Doctors taking good benefit of this all wrongly government is also feeling heat and they will take some action about this all.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 24, 2020, 01:07:46 PM

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Since the beginning of the coronavirus, “WHO” has been giving wrong and misleading information. Their Attitude are such that they do not understand anything, they eventually make a comment and within a few days they are withdraw that. such an unprofessional things, we cannot expect this kind of Irresponsible work from “WHO”. I don't think “WHO” can be trusted anymore with the coronavirus issue.

It is true that WHO especially Tedros Adhanom who is having contradictory statement one after another from the beginning, initially they said the Corona virus will not spread from human to human and then they changed that, it was a lack of competence from their part to identify the situation and rather than banning all the flights from China they assured that everything is alright. It is a new virus and naturally the scientific world will not have much information about the virus but to have contradicting statement one after the other will not help in containing the virus.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 11:34:47 AM

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This is rather worrying, considering World Health Organisation let out a statement recently, saying that COVID-19 transmission rate from asymptomatic patients is "rare". However, soon after, they retracted the statement, adding that the statement was misinterpreted and much data remains unknown and there, actually was a 40% chance of patients transmitting the illness onto others without being symptomatic. The debate created a big furore and sparked controversy in the community.

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

Since the beginning of the coronavirus, “WHO” has been giving wrong and misleading information. Their Attitude are such that they do not understand anything, they eventually make a comment and within a few days they are withdraw that. such an unprofessional things, we cannot expect this kind of Irresponsible work from “WHO”. I don't think “WHO” can be trusted anymore with the coronavirus issue.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 08:23:11 AM

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Hmm.. so they are trying to make use of this one month buffer. I have to point out one thing. The players may be asymptomatic right now. But that doesn't mean that all of them will remain as such. If the infection sets in, then at least some of them may experience symptoms such as coughing, fever or even pneumonia. And that would make them contagious.

If you are infected then you are contagious even if you are asymptomatic, the majority of the spread is because people who are asymptotic is spreading the disease and so is the reason it is difficult to contain the spread and difficult to identify the source of infection and we do not have a concrete data on that yet but i am pretty sure no one in the right sense would stay in an area if someone is coughing or showing some symptoms and if you think logically the asymptomatic contagious situation is the most damaging aspect of Corona virus.

To have more clarity of the issue:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/coronavirus-who-retracts-statement-within-a-day-that-said-asymptomatic-covid-19-carriers-cannot-spread-infection-here-is-an-explainer/photostory/76299600.cms

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This is rather worrying, considering World Health Organisation let out a statement recently, saying that COVID-19 transmission rate from asymptomatic patients is "rare". However, soon after, they retracted the statement, adding that the statement was misinterpreted and much data remains unknown and there, actually was a 40% chance of patients transmitting the illness onto others without being symptomatic. The debate created a big furore and sparked controversy in the community.

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

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