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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 12:14:02 AM

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PCB is not in mood of any cancellation, they clarified this during their briefing. My guess are...

- May be because they have 1 month as buffer.
- Players are asymptomatic.
- Considering replacement players, this one looks shady tho..

May be the real reason is that they cannot afford missing the series because of financial reason, three months of no cricket and the board is already suffering because there is not much cricket played in Pakistan and with the lock down and the virus they might be in financial crisis and it makes sense that they want to continue even thought 10 of their players are infected, asymptomatic does not mean they are not carriers of the virus and they need to check what is going on with the players to get everyone infected.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 23, 2020, 11:06:28 AM

^^^^ Perhaps it may be better to call off the tour. So many players have tested positive, and these players have interacted with the other players who have tested negative for now. The other players should be in quarantine, as it is not sure whether they have contracted the virus or not. So in my opinion, rather than announcing the replacements, the tour should be called off.

PCB is not in mood of any cancellation, they clarified this during their briefing. My guess are...

- May be because they have 1 month as buffer.
- Players are asymptomatic.
- Considering replacement players, this one looks shady tho..

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 23, 2020, 12:20:21 PM

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Actually, the future of this tour is not at the hands of PCB now. Given the number of infections, I don't think that the ECB will give permission for the Pakistan team to tour England. Only after the second round of tests, the picture will be clear. It is very likely that more players may test positive during the next round of tests. Anyway, how can the Pakistan team perform without so many of their regular players?

With the number of players testing positive there is no point in sending a second class team to tour England, Pakistan is usually struggling to put up a strong team even when the entire players are fit and with the current situation entirely not in their favor the best option is to postpone the series rather than carrying on with it. When the rest of the teams continue to put together the team who knows what the situation will be.

This tour might not go ahead anyway as Europe is already talking about not allowing US residents into Europe as its one of the hardest hit nations and with the current situation in Pakistan with the cases rising and with their players contracting the virus its hard to see this tour going ahead. I think it will be best to call it off as this virus doesn't look like slowing down.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 23, 2020, 12:20:21 PM

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Actually, the future of this tour is not at the hands of PCB now. Given the number of infections, I don't think that the ECB will give permission for the Pakistan team to tour England. Only after the second round of tests, the picture will be clear. It is very likely that more players may test positive during the next round of tests. Anyway, how can the Pakistan team perform without so many of their regular players?

With the number of players testing positive there is no point in sending a second class team to tour England, Pakistan is usually struggling to put up a strong team even when the entire players are fit and with the current situation entirely not in their favor the best option is to postpone the series rather than carrying on with it. When the rest of the teams continue to put together the team who knows what the situation will be.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 23, 2020, 11:06:28 AM

^^^^ Perhaps it may be better to call off the tour. So many players have tested positive, and these players have interacted with the other players who have tested negative for now. The other players should be in quarantine, as it is not sure whether they have contracted the virus or not. So in my opinion, rather than announcing the replacements, the tour should be called off.

Surely PCB is now is serious talk about this issue and they will announces about this in next few days because they cannot force players and now this situation is not in control for them so most chances they will call off this tour or delay by few days because right now West Indies is already in England and Pakistan is still going with good time.

Actually, the future of this tour is not at the hands of PCB now. Given the number of infections, I don't think that the ECB will give permission for the Pakistan team to tour England. Only after the second round of tests, the picture will be clear. It is very likely that more players may test positive during the next round of tests. Anyway, how can the Pakistan team perform without so many of their regular players?

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 23, 2020, 09:09:31 AM

What's happening with the Pakistani team? Heard that almost 8-9 players have tested positive for covid. Their England tour. Still in tract though according to PCB chief.

Brother you was right and your source was also OK as now I check with few peoples and have on different channles they all saying its already happened hopefully this will be ok and team will be able to go England after clearing this all but still we are looking for more information about this all.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 23, 2020, 11:06:28 AM

^^^^ Perhaps it may be better to call off the tour. So many players have tested positive, and these players have interacted with the other players who have tested negative for now. The other players should be in quarantine, as it is not sure whether they have contracted the virus or not. So in my opinion, rather than announcing the replacements, the tour should be called off.

Surely PCB is now is serious talk about this issue and they will announces about this in next few days because they cannot force players and now this situation is not in control for them so most chances they will call off this tour or delay by few days because right now West Indies is already in England and Pakistan is still going with good time.

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^^^^ Perhaps it may be better to call off the tour. So many players have tested positive, and these players have interacted with the other players who have tested negative for now. The other players should be in quarantine, as it is not sure whether they have contracted the virus or not. So in my opinion, rather than announcing the replacements, the tour should be called off.

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Quote from: Indymoney on June 23, 2020, 09:30:32 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 23, 2020, 09:09:31 AM

What's happening with the Pakistani team? Heard that almost 8-9 players have tested positive for covid. Their England tour. Still in tract though according to PCB chief.

These all are rumours there is nothing just 3 players positive all others ok I check few TV Channles and all latest update about this but we have no update about this all I am feeling its all just for harasment nothing else happening here.

I really hope its just a bogus news as PCB can't afford this drama just before the England tour.

This source says that this update came from the PCB?

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Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has confirmed that seven more cricketers have returned positive tests for Covid-19, taking the total count to ten ahead of their England tour. On Monday, Shadab Khan, Haider Ali, and Haris Rauf had tested positive.

The new names on the list are Kashif Bhatti, Mohammad Hasnain, Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Rizwan, Mohammad Hafeez, Wahab Riaz, and Imran Khan. In addition, the PCB announced one member from the player support personnel had also tested positive for the virus. According to the PCB CEO Wasim Khan, all seven players who tested positive are - like the three who returned positive tests yesterday - asymptomatic. Shoaib Malik, Waqar Younis and Cliffe Deacon have not yet been tested.

Seven more Pakistan players test positive for Covid-19

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PCB press release: SECOND update on Covid-19 tests

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Lahore, 23 June 2020: Following the announcement yesterday that three players had tested positive for Covid-19, the Pakistan Cricket Board on Tuesday confirmed that a further seven players and a player support personnel from a total of 35 have tested positive for Covid-19. The PCB had organised these 35 tests in Karachi, Lahore and Peshawar on Monday.

Players who have tested positive are: Fakhar Zaman, Imran Khan, Kashif Bhatti, Mohammad Hafeez, Mohammad Hasnain, Mohammad Rizwan and Wahab Riaz

Player who have tested negative are: Abid Ali, Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali, Babar Azam, Faheem Ashraf, Fawad Alam, Iftikhar Ahmad, Imam-ul-Haq, Khushdil Shah, Mohammad Abbas, Naseem Shah, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shan Masood, Sohail Khan, and Yasir Shah

Player Support Personnel, who has tested positive, is: Malang Ali (masseur)

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 23, 2020, 09:09:31 AM

What's happening with the Pakistani team? Heard that almost 8-9 players have tested positive for covid. Their England tour. Still in tract though according to PCB chief.

These all are rumours there is nothing just 3 players positive all others ok I check few TV Channles and all latest update about this but we have no update about this all I am feeling its all just for harasment nothing else happening here.

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What's happening with the Pakistani team? Heard that almost 8-9 players have tested positive for covid. Their England tour. Still in tract though according to PCB chief.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 22, 2020, 02:56:44 AM

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Both Afridi and Mortaza exposed themselves to the public thanks to charity work and other works due to which they contracted the virus which is why it was their mistake.

If they are helping people during a pandemic more power to them.

Quote from: Haunebu on June 22, 2020, 02:56:44 AM

Most players are following all the rules like social distancing etc properly due to which they are safe and sound at present. Cases are rising rapidly in 3rd world countries (Especially India) currently and I don't expect it to peak anytime soon.

So you think that the peak in third world countries is yet to happen. The US and India is leading in terms for the number of patients on a daily basis for a few days and it is not promising for the IPL fans but Australia is doing better and we can still hope for the T20 World Cup.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:33:14 AM

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Personally I believe that there should be a hard boundary between politics and spots.

Is there a qualification for politics rather than having the ability to win a popularity contest Tongue

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Australia might be doing better however the cases in Melbourne has started to spike and the state government has enforced lock downs again. Melbourne is where the T20 final is scheduled to be played but right now things ain't looking good so don't get your hopes up for the T20 world cup happening this year.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 22, 2020, 02:56:44 AM

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Both Afridi and Mortaza exposed themselves to the public thanks to charity work and other works due to which they contracted the virus which is why it was their mistake.

If they are helping people during a pandemic more power to them.

Quote from: Haunebu on June 22, 2020, 02:56:44 AM

Most players are following all the rules like social distancing etc properly due to which they are safe and sound at present. Cases are rising rapidly in 3rd world countries (Especially India) currently and I don't expect it to peak anytime soon.

So you think that the peak in third world countries is yet to happen. The US and India is leading in terms for the number of patients on a daily basis for a few days and it is not promising for the IPL fans but Australia is doing better and we can still hope for the T20 World Cup.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2020, 11:33:14 AM

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Personally I believe that there should be a hard boundary between politics and spots.

Is there a qualification for politics rather than having the ability to win a popularity contest Tongue

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 21, 2020, 07:13:16 AM

When the news of Shahid Afridi testing positive for COVID 19 came, I made a post here claiming that he won't be the only international cricket player to have that misfortune. South Asia is witnessing an increasing number of cases with every passing day. There are projections that the number of cases may peak at sometime in November, and millions may get infected.

If the BCCI was planning for a mini-IPL sometime in the 4th quarter, then they need to take a look at these projections.

Shahid Afridi is meeting lot of people and trying to build the base for politics in Pakistan. In this meeting the local and other people resulted him to be positive . Also if their is chance of another wave then surely we would not have the IPL and nor the World Cup for this year .

Oh.. so after Imran Khan, now Shahid Afridi is trying his luck in politics? I am not too excited with this news. As far as I know, Imran Khan isn't doing that good. Pakistani economy is not performing that well. What is the need for cricketers to exploit their celebrity status to enter the field of politics? Personally I believe that there should be a hard boundary between politics and spots.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 21, 2020, 07:13:16 AM

When the news of Shahid Afridi testing positive for COVID 19 came, I made a post here claiming that he won't be the only international cricket player to have that misfortune. South Asia is witnessing an increasing number of cases with every passing day. There are projections that the number of cases may peak at sometime in November, and millions may get infected.

Both Afridi and Mortaza exposed themselves to the public thanks to charity work and other works due to which they contracted the virus which is why it was their mistake.

Most players are following all the rules like social distancing etc properly due to which they are safe and sound at present. Cases are rising rapidly in 3rd world countries (Especially India) currently and I don't expect it to peak anytime soon.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 21, 2020, 07:13:16 AM

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If the BCCI was planning for a mini-IPL sometime in the 4th quarter, then they need to take a look at these projections.

If you are looking at the virus spike then there is no way we will have a tournament even in the 4th quarter but if the ICC and the respective cricket boards decides to resume cricket then we might see the match happening and that too with the help and support of the government as you need the authorization of the government to conduct a tournament during this period and i hope cricket resumes just like Scoccer.

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Quote from: Indymoney on June 20, 2020, 05:14:00 PM

We have not only Mortaza some other Bangladesh players also test positive which is really bad for them https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29337870/mashrafe-mortaza-tests-positive-covid-19

When the news of Shahid Afridi testing positive for COVID 19 came, I made a post here claiming that he won't be the only international cricket player to have that misfortune. South Asia is witnessing an increasing number of cases with every passing day. There are projections that the number of cases may peak at sometime in November, and millions may get infected.

If the BCCI was planning for a mini-IPL sometime in the 4th quarter, then they need to take a look at these projections.

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Quote from: akhjob on June 20, 2020, 10:33:18 AM

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Do you think boycotting Chinese products is possible in this globalisation era? Almost all of the electronics even if its a US or European brand, the make is in China. So I don't think this is not possible in this era. Once the current border conflict subsides, the cry for boycotting Chinese products will stop and the people will be back to using the Chinese products. So, once the border conflict subsides, there will be no problem with VIVO sponsoring IPL Tongue

Personally i do not think that boycotting Chinese products is possible as they have some cool gadgets at cheap rates compared to other products but the only way the government could ban those electronic products is when they could convince everyone about the security issues and all the data in your phone will be stored in some Chinese servers and there are news confirming that from the US media. The Indian railway already cancelled a Chinese contract but claim it is not because of the conflict, who knows.

Quote from: Haunebu on June 20, 2020, 01:41:30 PM

Also, another sad thing is that former skipper Mortaza tested positive just like Afridi. I hope he recovers quickly without any issues.

Is he doing charity work to get exposed to the virus. Hope he gets well soon.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 21, 2020, 05:52:16 AM

Quote from: Indymoney on June 20, 2020, 05:14:00 PM

We have not only Mortaza some other Bangladesh players also test positive which is really bad for them https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29337870/mashrafe-mortaza-tests-positive-covid-19

True but both the others player are not from so known. Aside from Masrafee, Nafis Iqbal who contributed his maiden century toward Bangladesh test series win (brother of Tamim Iqbal) and Nazmul Islam who played couple of matches for Bangladesh. However, that's a big worry for the team and the nation as whole.

Very Bad news for the cricket world. This will hamper any chances of a tournament being organized. I think the schedules test series with Srilanka might get postponed because of this issue.

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Quote from: Indymoney on June 20, 2020, 05:14:00 PM

We have not only Mortaza some other Bangladesh players also test positive which is really bad for them https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29337870/mashrafe-mortaza-tests-positive-covid-19

True but both the others player are not from so known. Aside from Masrafee, Nafis Iqbal who contributed his maiden century toward Bangladesh test series win (brother of Tamim Iqbal) and Nazmul Islam who played couple of matches for Bangladesh. However, that's a big worry for the team and the nation as whole.

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