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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on November 30, 2019, 03:03:31 AM

It been quite a while that there is any international T20 match.
Regarding the Match between India and West Indies, it look like India will dominate as they have been playing superb cricket in all the departments and forms of cricket. West Indies moral will be extremely down with the loss against Afghanistan in their recent series.

West Indies was not playing with their best team against Afghanistan and you cannot say that the moral will be down when their star players return for the India series and i expect they will be facing India with their full bench strength as the leagues they were playing are over and now they will be available for selection for the India series and West Indies have the power hitting players to defeat any time and i expect a good battle.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 29, 2019, 11:26:04 PM

Less than a week to go for the first T20 between India and West Indies, which will take place in Hyderabad. Spectators will be missing big names such as Andre Russell and Sunil Narine, but given the advantage WI possess in this format we may be in for some fireworks. But their recent form worries me, as they lost a T20 series against Afghanistan this month.

It been quite a while that there is any international T20 match.
Regarding the Match between India and West Indies, it look like India will dominate as they have been playing superb cricket in all the departments and forms of cricket. West Indies moral will be extremely down with the loss against Afghanistan in their recent series.

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Less than a week to go for the first T20 between India and West Indies, which will take place in Hyderabad. Spectators will be missing big names such as Andre Russell and Sunil Narine, but given the advantage WI possess in this format we may be in for some fireworks. But their recent form worries me, as they lost a T20 series against Afghanistan this month.

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Quote from: Indymoney on November 28, 2019, 02:41:11 PM

Dhoni is replacable as we have many players those was on peak and they have to retire as time never stops same happen with Dhoni in near future we could watch some more better player for India in place of him as now they have some very good and stronge domestic system which is helping youngsters to grow and appear in world with best of game.

There are players that cannot be replaced like Mathew Hayden, Ponting, Warne, Muttiah Muralitharan, Gilchrist, Kallis, Botham, Lara, Sachin and i consider Dhoni in that category, you will not find a talent like that who was performing in his prime as a captain and scoring runs and he is one of the best wicket keeper in the world and the best captain when you take into consideration the trophies won under him and probably the best finisher in cricket history.

This is true that you can replace the people but talent and experience cannot be replaced as they play a vital role in building a character and their presence or absence could be easily felt at some point of time if not always. Also they are so special due to which we remember them and consider this as a legends of the game.

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if there are other young talents then you need to give them opportunities too and if they are performing well then he will have a slot and if not they will get replaced eventually.

There is a huge pool of talents in India right now and it is a big competition to get in the team and have a permanent position as the bench strength is really huge and if you are not performing or failing for a few matches then there are people waiting to take your position, the only vacant position in the team right now is to find a suitable replacement for Dhoni and it is hard to replace a talent like that i doubt we will see another wicket keeper like him ever again.

Obviously it is not very easy to replace legendary players such as Mahendra Singh Dhoni. But as you pointed out, India is a huge country with a population of 1.4 billion, and there is no dearth of talent. When Sachin Tendulkar announced his retirement, the same argument was put forward. But then in just a few years players such as Virat Kolhi and Rohit Sharma stepped in to fill the vacuum left by Sachin. It is not right to compare two players who have played their game in different time periods facing different bowlers. But in my opinion, Virat Kohli is the best batsman India has ever produced, because he has performed consistently well against all the opponents in all types of surfaces.

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Quote from: Indymoney on November 28, 2019, 02:41:11 PM

Dhoni is replacable as we have many players those was on peak and they have to retire as time never stops same happen with Dhoni in near future we could watch some more better player for India in place of him as now they have some very good and stronge domestic system which is helping youngsters to grow and appear in world with best of game.

There are players that cannot be replaced like Mathew Hayden, Ponting, Warne, Muttiah Muralitharan, Gilchrist, Kallis, Botham, Lara, Sachin and i consider Dhoni in that category, you will not find a talent like that who was performing in his prime as a captain and scoring runs and he is one of the best wicket keeper in the world and the best captain when you take into consideration the trophies won under him and probably the best finisher in cricket history.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 28, 2019, 12:07:26 PM

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if there are other young talents then you need to give them opportunities too and if they are performing well then he will have a slot and if not they will get replaced eventually.

There is a huge pool of talents in India right now and it is a big competition to get in the team and have a permanent position as the bench strength is really huge and if you are not performing or failing for a few matches then there are people waiting to take your position, the only vacant position in the team right now is to find a suitable replacement for Dhoni and it is hard to replace a talent like that i doubt we will see another wicket keeper like him ever again.

Dhoni is replacable as we have many players those was on peak and they have to retire as time never stops same happen with Dhoni in near future we could watch some more better player for India in place of him as now they have some very good and stronge domestic system which is helping youngsters to grow and appear in world with best of game.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 28, 2019, 12:07:26 PM

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if there are other young talents then you need to give them opportunities too and if they are performing well then he will have a slot and if not they will get replaced eventually.

There is a huge pool of talents in India right now and it is a big competition to get in the team and have a permanent position as the bench strength is really huge and if you are not performing or failing for a few matches then there are people waiting to take your position, the only vacant position in the team right now is to find a suitable replacement for Dhoni and it is hard to replace a talent like that i doubt we will see another wicket keeper like him ever again.

Do you think having a lot of talent sometimes is not good for a team in the long run ? If the good players are not able to make the position in the team because of even more good players, then this will ruin the career of those players who are not able to make place in the team despite being well talented.
Also it will put extra pressure on the players because if they fail to perform, they will be immediately replaced.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 28, 2019, 12:07:26 PM

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the only vacant position in the team right now is to find a suitable replacement for Dhoni and it is hard to replace a talent like that i doubt we will see another wicket keeper like him ever again.

The problem with Pant is that he’s trying very hard to replace Dhoni, and he’s putting lots of pressure on himself to perform and it’s starting to effect his natural game. In my opinion Pant can become one of the best wicket keeper in the world, but the media and the fans need to stop comparing him with Dhoni for that to happen. @SaShiRaJaVu that’s precisely the problem everyone is focused on thinking the former Indian captain cannot be replaced, but no one is focusing on allowing Pant to be himself they all want him to replicate Dhoni and this decision is backfiring on him.

Source: https://www.republicworld.com/sports-news/cricket-news/msk-prasad-asks-pant-to-never-compare-himself-to-ms-dhoni.html

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 28, 2019, 09:59:38 AM

if there are other young talents then you need to give them opportunities too and if they are performing well then he will have a slot and if not they will get replaced eventually.

There is a huge pool of talents in India right now and it is a big competition to get in the team and have a permanent position as the bench strength is really huge and if you are not performing or failing for a few matches then there are people waiting to take your position, the only vacant position in the team right now is to find a suitable replacement for Dhoni and it is hard to replace a talent like that i doubt we will see another wicket keeper like him ever again.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 28, 2019, 07:48:20 AM

His performance was above average during the last two IPL seasons, but as of now he is not the first choice keeper to replace Mahendra Singh Dhoni. The selectors and the captain favors Rishabh Pant for that slot. Only if Samson can prove that his keeping and batting is better than Pant, he will be able to find a permanent slot in the Indian squad.

Rishabh Pant got many opportunities and he is yet to prove his worth, he is a young talent but i have seen him missing catches and stumping chances and he needs to improve those wicket keeping skills and his batting is also not that great as he is struggling with the bat too, if there are other young talents then you need to give them opportunities too and if they are performing well then he will have a slot and if not they will get replaced eventually.

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It is good to see Samson being included in the squad. But it will create a negative atmosphere if people like Shashi Tharoor and Sreesanth comes out in support for him. Because then the critics will argue that they are supporting Samson just because he hails from Kerala. In reality, Samson doesn't need the support of these people. He can qualify to the team on his own merit.

Why there is a lot of support for this player, is he in great form and playing really well in domestic cricket to have this much hype, it is disspointing to get selected in the team and never play a game and not get selected again and if he is still keep on performing well in the domestic level then he will be in the team without a doubt, i remember him playing in the IPL but do not remember any special innings he played to have a hype like this .

His performance was above average during the last two IPL seasons, but as of now he is not the first choice keeper to replace Mahendra Singh Dhoni. The selectors and the captain favors Rishabh Pant for that slot. Only if Samson can prove that his keeping and batting is better than Pant, he will be able to find a permanent slot in the Indian squad.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 27, 2019, 08:16:10 AM

It is good to see Samson being included in the squad. But it will create a negative atmosphere if people like Shashi Tharoor and Sreesanth comes out in support for him. Because then the critics will argue that they are supporting Samson just because he hails from Kerala. In reality, Samson doesn't need the support of these people. He can qualify to the team on his own merit.

Why there is a lot of support for this player, is he in great form and playing really well in domestic cricket to have this much hype, it is disspointing to get selected in the team and never play a game and not get selected again and if he is still keep on performing well in the domestic level then he will be in the team without a doubt, i remember him playing in the IPL but do not remember any special innings he played to have a hype like this .

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 27, 2019, 04:51:15 AM

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Now Sanju Samson is part of 15 member sqad for this T-20 Series. he's replacement opener for Sikhar Dhawan who got injured in Domestic tournament ( Syed Mushtaq Ali T20). hard luck for Dhawan but good opportunity for young Samson, hope this young fella grab this chance with both hands and would like to see new guy opening for Team India instead of KL Rahul.

There was a huge outcry about the omission of Sanju Samson from the team even without giving a chance to play a single game and there were some political support too from Shashi Tharoor and yesterday night there were hints that the BCCI is planning to select him and now we have a replacement for Sikhar Dhawan. I personally would like to see him play for the team and see how he performs.

It is good to see Samson being included in the squad. But it will create a negative atmosphere if people like Shashi Tharoor and Sreesanth comes out in support for him. Because then the critics will argue that they are supporting Samson just because he hails from Kerala. In reality, Samson doesn't need the support of these people. He can qualify to the team on his own merit.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 27, 2019, 04:33:35 AM

Now Sanju Samson is part of 15 member sqad for this T-20 Series. he's replacement opener for Sikhar Dhawan who got injured in Domestic tournament ( Syed Mushtaq Ali T20). hard luck for Dhawan but good opportunity for young Samson, hope this young fella grab this chance with both hands and would like to see new guy opening for Team India instead of KL Rahul.

There was a huge outcry about the omission of Sanju Samson from the team even without giving a chance to play a single game and there were some political support too from Shashi Tharoor and yesterday night there were hints that the BCCI is planning to select him and now we have a replacement for Sikhar Dhawan. I personally would like to see him play for the team and see how he performs.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 23, 2019, 04:11:13 AM

India announced the Squad for upcoming T-20/ ODI series against the West Indies. Kohli, Kuldeep, Bhuvneshwar, Shami, Jadeja are back and Krunal, Khaleel, Shardul Thakur, Samson out.

Samson exclusion looks odd to me, he didn't even got a chance to play a single game and considering Rishabh Pant's recent form, he surely deserved a few chances and not sure what Kedar Jadhav is doing in the ODI squad, he's 34 yo. IMO management should look out for new blood (Shubham Gill).

No mention of Dhoni, guess more speculation on his retirement.

https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/110916/kuldeep-bhuvneshwar-back-in-squad-for-west-indies-series

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T20I Squad: Virat Kohli (C), Rohit Sharma (VC), Shikhar Dhawan, KL Rahul, Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, Rishabh Pant (WK), Shivam Dube, Washington Sundar, Ravindra Jadeja, Yuzvendra Chahal, Kuldeep Yadav, Deepak Chahar, Mohammed Shami, Bhuvneshwar Kumar

ODI Squad: Virat Kohli (C), Rohit Sharma (VC), Shikhar Dhawan, KL Rahul, Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, Rishabh Pant (WK), Shivam Dube, Kedar Jadhav, Ravindra Jadeja, Yuzvendra Chahal, Kuldeep Yadav, Deepak Chahar, Mohammed Shami, Bhuvneshwar Kumar

New updates on Squad... Injured Dhawan ruled out of West Indies T20Is; Samson named replacement

Now Sanju Samson is part of 15 member sqad for this T-20 Series. he's replacement opener for Sikhar Dhawan who got injured in Domestic tournament ( Syed Mushtaq Ali T20). hard luck for Dhawan but good opportunity for young Samson, hope this young fella grab this chance with both hands and would like to see new guy opening for Team India instead of KL Rahul.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 23, 2019, 11:47:28 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 23, 2019, 04:11:13 AM

Samson exclusion looks odd to me, he didn't even got a chance to play a single game and considering Rishabh Pant's recent form, he surely deserved a few chances and not sure what Kedar Jadhav is doing in the ODI squad, he's 34 yo. IMO management should look out for new blood (Shubham Gill).
No mention of Dhoni, guess more speculation on his retirement.

I am really disappointing with the selectors for not giving a chance to players and then excluding which will demotivate any player, he should have given a chance and see how he performs in the international stage and rather than giving him a chance he is excluded in the test series, i used to see these kind of procedures in the past where players will be selected for tours and not play a game and then gets excluded.

What happened to Sanju Samson was disappointing and demoralizing. The same happened to Karun Nair, when he was similarly dropped from the squad to be replaced with Hanuma Vihari. The Indian team selection is really sub-standard. Even now closeness to the officials and support from the state associations matter a lot while getting selected for the national team. The Zonal system for selectors needs to be replaced with a better system, in which the power lies with the captain.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on November 24, 2019, 07:51:34 AM

No matter what indian selectors are doing and which team members they are selecting, the main thing is that India is winning in all forms of cricket and that is what matter most. The win by the Indians will stop all the pointing fingers on selection of the team.
Even with the selected team, i am sure India will easily win against the West Indian T20 team.

There is no doubt that India will win the series against West Indies with the bowling and the batting power India has but in the series the West Indies is bringing back their specialist players and hence it will be a really good contest. When you are selecting a players and not giving a chance to play he is not gaining any experience, they should allow the player to play a couple of matches if they are selected rather than warming the bench.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 24, 2019, 12:48:21 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 23, 2019, 11:47:28 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 23, 2019, 04:11:13 AM

Samson exclusion looks odd to me, he didn't even got a chance to play a single game and considering Rishabh Pant's recent form, he surely deserved a few chances and not sure what Kedar Jadhav is doing in the ODI squad, he's 34 yo. IMO management should look out for new blood (Shubham Gill).
No mention of Dhoni, guess more speculation on his retirement.

I am really disappointing with the selectors for not giving a chance to players and then excluding which will demotivate any player, he should have given a chance and see how he performs in the international stage and rather than giving him a chance he is excluded in the test series, i used to see these kind of procedures in the past where players will be selected for tours and not play a game and then gets excluded.

Indian team selection always have been controversial. The selectors tend to give more chances to players from their own state boards. Examples are the numerous chances given to average players such as Khaleel Ahmed, Dinesh Karthik and Hanuma Vihari. I think it will be much better, if the selection power rests entirely with the coach and the captain. People like MSK Prasad have made a mockery of the team selection.

No matter what indian selectors are doing and which team members they are selecting, the main thing is that India is winning in all forms of cricket and that is what matter most. The win by the Indians will stop all the pointing fingers on selection of the team.
Even with the selected team, i am sure India will easily win against the West Indian T20 team.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 23, 2019, 11:47:28 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 23, 2019, 04:11:13 AM

Samson exclusion looks odd to me, he didn't even got a chance to play a single game and considering Rishabh Pant's recent form, he surely deserved a few chances and not sure what Kedar Jadhav is doing in the ODI squad, he's 34 yo. IMO management should look out for new blood (Shubham Gill).
No mention of Dhoni, guess more speculation on his retirement.

I am really disappointing with the selectors for not giving a chance to players and then excluding which will demotivate any player, he should have given a chance and see how he performs in the international stage and rather than giving him a chance he is excluded in the test series, i used to see these kind of procedures in the past where players will be selected for tours and not play a game and then gets excluded.

Indian team selection always have been controversial. The selectors tend to give more chances to players from their own state boards. Examples are the numerous chances given to average players such as Khaleel Ahmed, Dinesh Karthik and Hanuma Vihari. I think it will be much better, if the selection power rests entirely with the coach and the captain. People like MSK Prasad have made a mockery of the team selection.

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