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eGold Mining is the FUTURE of the Mining Industry!
3 years later and still pretty much no development.

We are all getting scammed.

Y'all sent bitcoins to a man for coins that will be worthless when he abandons the project.

Even if he doesn't abandon it, by how slow he has been working, we aren't going to see returns in a long long time.
newbie
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You can buy the coins on bittrex, or directly from Ohad. If you buy from Ohad the price was higher than bittrex price, but cheaper if you bought in bulk.

not anymore. now, only bittrex, or the "tentative sale". see my last posts here https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ohad-365974

this only ethical issue with this tentative sale seems to be whether those btc would have been better put to use market buying or risking the tentative sale. that point remains unclear.

best to hedge and do both?

Also - when does the "tentative sale" definitely end?

There is 1 hour 23 minutes left in Israel until 7/1, but a lot more time in USA.

You think price might rise at after 1st July?
legendary
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You can buy the coins on bittrex, or directly from Ohad. If you buy from Ohad the price was higher than bittrex price, but cheaper if you bought in bulk.

not anymore. now, only bittrex, or the "tentative sale". see my last posts here https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ohad-365974

this only ethical issue with this tentative sale seems to be whether those btc would have been better put to use market buying or risking the tentative sale. that point remains unclear.

best to hedge and do both?

Also - when does the "tentative sale" definitely end?

There is 1 hour 23 minutes left in Israel until 7/1, but a lot more time in USA.
full member
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You can buy the coins on bittrex, or directly from Ohad. If you buy from Ohad the price was higher than bittrex price, but cheaper if you bought in bulk.

not anymore. now, only bittrex, or the "tentative sale". see my last posts here https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ohad-365974

What's the price per AGRS for this "tentative sale"?
hero member
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http://idni.org
You can buy the coins on bittrex, or directly from Ohad. If you buy from Ohad the price was higher than bittrex price, but cheaper if you bought in bulk.

not anymore. now, only bittrex, or the "tentative sale". see my last posts here https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ohad-365974
sr. member
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Bounty program available?

every significant support is bounty-able Smiley

and regarding price doubling next month, after more discussions and thought, we consider making it x4 rather x2. more to come

More great news for early investors, i love read anoucements like this 😄. 4X is only the begining. But one question, when you release the whitepaper and the alfa core you burn all agoras unsolded? Or we must wait another data for that.?




no, and quite the contrary. the plan is to have majority (or nearly majority) of the coins to be sold after tau is ready and before agoras is ready (which is the moment when unsold coins will be burnt). we'll try to adjust it to happen by price raises (i.e. to avoid selling nearly majority of the coins beforehand)

I found a post where Ohad talks about unsold coins being burnt. Is this what you were referring to Goblinman?

Yes, and him saying about he cannot sell more coins or tokens as the 60% have been sold..and the price increase tomorrow what is that about? How can the price artificially be increased up to 10% tomorrow by Ohad? How does that work..maybe I misinterpreted the destruction part, but how does the value increase work then for 1 July?
You can buy the coins on bittrex, or directly from Ohad. If you buy from Ohad the price was higher than bittrex price, but cheaper if you bought in bulk.
newbie
Activity: 17
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Bounty program available?

every significant support is bounty-able Smiley

and regarding price doubling next month, after more discussions and thought, we consider making it x4 rather x2. more to come

More great news for early investors, i love read anoucements like this 😄. 4X is only the begining. But one question, when you release the whitepaper and the alfa core you burn all agoras unsolded? Or we must wait another data for that.?




no, and quite the contrary. the plan is to have majority (or nearly majority) of the coins to be sold after tau is ready and before agoras is ready (which is the moment when unsold coins will be burnt). we'll try to adjust it to happen by price raises (i.e. to avoid selling nearly majority of the coins beforehand)

I found a post where Ohad talks about unsold coins being burnt. Is this what you were referring to Goblinman?

Yes, and him saying about he cannot sell more coins or tokens as the 60% have been sold..and the price increase tomorrow what is that about? How can the price artificially be increased up to 10x tomorrow by Ohad? How does that work..maybe I misinterpreted the destruction part, but how does the value increase work then for 1 July?
hero member
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http://idni.org
indeed i saw a misconception around that burning the tokens is about time. but it's not.
tau is one thing to be reached in stages (alpha, beta). tau has no coins. it is a platform for many things, one of them, for applications like agoras.
after tau is ready we need to develop agoras which is a currency and a market. between tau and agoras, is the time to sell around half of the coins, as the old plan. however we already sold 60%. we missed the deadline (1st of july) by 3 days. and now many more buyers would like to buy, so we made this "tentative sale" thing. not only we're not on the stage for after tau is ready, even tau's whitepaper is not ready yet, far to mention code. (we do have old whitepaper and code but things changed.)
when agoras is ready for shipping, then, and only then, we burn the unsold tokens.
so this burning thing has nothing to do with 1st of july.

as for price increase, x2, x4, x10 -- this is all old discussion, so no need to dive into details. the updated decision (since few days ago, here) is to stop the sale in 1st of july until tau/alpha is ready.
newbie
Activity: 7
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Bounty program available?

every significant support is bounty-able Smiley

and regarding price doubling next month, after more discussions and thought, we consider making it x4 rather x2. more to come

More great news for early investors, i love read anoucements like this 😄. 4X is only the begining. But one question, when you release the whitepaper and the alfa core you burn all agoras unsolded? Or we must wait another data for that.?




no, and quite the contrary. the plan is to have majority (or nearly majority) of the coins to be sold after tau is ready and before agoras is ready (which is the moment when unsold coins will be burnt). we'll try to adjust it to happen by price raises (i.e. to avoid selling nearly majority of the coins beforehand)

I found a post where Ohad talks about unsold coins being burnt. Is this what you were referring to Goblinman?
newbie
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where is this information from? everywhere i have read says on 1st July he will destroy the remaining tokens past 60% of the token in circulation which has already been sold it seems, according to his previous posts? so if he has already sold the 60% tokens that wont be destroyed...any tokens we may buy now are going to be destroyed are they not? and there is talk of sending them to him to 'lock them' from being destroyed if you were in the first 60% tokens buyers?

it is completely confusing and unclear.

Ohad please explain?

Is there a post of his where he says he will destroy the remaining tokens (past 60%) ? There are so many pages to this thread, so I'm having  a hard time wading through them all.
newbie
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I can clarify, bittrex users/balances/wallets etc will not be affected by anything.
Omniwallet users will also not be affected, nobody who has coins will be affected.

The direct sale through ohad will just stop tomorrow (01/07/2017). Nothing more then that.
Trading on bittrex will continue as usual.


where is this information from? everywhere i have read says on 1st July he will destroy the remaining tokens past 60% of the token in circulation which has already been sold it seems, according to his previous posts? so if he has already sold the 60% tokens that wont be destroyed...any tokens we may buy now are going to be destroyed are they not? and there is talk of sending them to him to 'lock them' from being destroyed if you were in the first 60% tokens buyers?

it is completely confusing and unclear.

Ohad please explain?

TBH I am just giving my opinion based on the way I read it..... I highly doubt that the Dev would list it on bittrex if those tokens means nothing anymore..... I am guessing that the tokens on the exchange were already included in the 60%. Also, it doesn't say that its going to be destroyed tomorrow.... he states that the remaining premined tokens will be destroyed at the Genesis block that would be when the Alpha is released. If the dev destroyed the tokens on the exchange his project would sink faster than the Titanic
newbie
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I'm confused about what happens tomorrow, July 1 (Is that US time, btw?).
Will people be able to continue buying and selling it on Bittrex after July 1?
And what does the post July 1 announcement mean for people that have bought it on Bittrex before July 1?

After June 30th, the devs will stop selling tokens by themselves. I think it is Isreal time. I think that means that the market (bittrex) will be the only place to buy/trade the tokens and decide the prices of the tokens.
yes.
No affect for Bittrex users.

Thanks.
drm
legendary
Activity: 1176
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I can clarify, bittrex users/balances/wallets etc will not be affected by anything.
Omniwallet users will also not be affected, nobody who has coins will be affected.

The direct sale through ohad will just stop tomorrow (01/07/2017). Nothing more then that.
Trading on bittrex will continue as usual.


where is this information from? everywhere i have read says on 1st July he will destroy the remaining tokens past 60% of the token in circulation which has already been sold it seems, according to his previous posts? so if he has already sold the 60% tokens that wont be destroyed...any tokens we may buy now are going to be destroyed are they not? and there is talk of sending them to him to 'lock them' from being destroyed if you were in the first 60% tokens buyers?

it is completely confusing and unclear.

Ohad please explain?

The information I gave is from this thread.
sr. member
Activity: 269
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I'm confused about what happens tomorrow, July 1 (Is that US time, btw?).
Will people be able to continue buying and selling it on Bittrex after July 1?
And what does the post July 1 announcement mean for people that have bought it on Bittrex before July 1?
After June 30th, the devs will stop selling tokens by themselves. I think it is Isreal time. I think that means that the market (bittrex) will be the only place to buy/trade the tokens and decide the prices of the tokens.
yes.
No affect for Bittrex users.
Thanks for the clarification! Do you think the price would go up or down after that? Now it's seems the price is going down...

The market is always up and down for me. The market is unpredictable imo. Remember that this project still have a long way to go before the alpha.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
I can clarify, bittrex users/balances/wallets etc will not be affected by anything.
Omniwallet users will also not be affected, nobody who has coins will be affected.

The direct sale through ohad will just stop tomorrow (01/07/2017). Nothing more then that.
Trading on bittrex will continue as usual.


where is this information from? everywhere i have read says on 1st July he will destroy the remaining tokens past 60% of the token in circulation which has already been sold it seems, according to his previous posts? so if he has already sold the 60% tokens that wont be destroyed...any tokens we may buy now are going to be destroyed are they not? and there is talk of sending them to him to 'lock them' from being destroyed if you were in the first 60% tokens buyers?

it is completely confusing and unclear.

Ohad please explain?
newbie
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Merit: 0
I can clarify, bittrex users/balances/wallets etc will not be affected by anything.

+1

In my view, money worth now, not is irrelevant at this point in Tau's development.

It is only the end of an ICO, at the moment that Ohad shows us the progress the price will only rise.

Make sense! And yes the price is moving up again
hero member
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i bought from bittrex how i locked it

at this stage we cannot lock anymore tokens that were bought on bittrex. because we cannot give more coins.
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i bought at 0.00055000 and now price going down and down i am new plz help me what i do.

Dude, its going 0.00555! haha! just hold!
full member
Activity: 156
Merit: 100
I agree. There needs to be clarification on what is happening with our tokens. It appears a massive sell off is occuring in this uncertainty because people think they're coins won't be tradeable on bittrex. Please clarify this asap.

Massive selloff? The price was almost half just 24 hours ago.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
I can clarify, bittrex users/balances/wallets etc will not be affected by anything.

+1

In my view, money worth now, not is irrelevant at this point in Tau's development.

It is only the end of an ICO, at the moment that Ohad shows us the progress the price will only rise.
drm
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
I can clarify, bittrex users/balances/wallets etc will not be affected by anything.
Omniwallet users will also not be affected, nobody who has coins will be affected.
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